Re: Wait a minute...hmmm...Pacquiao vs Hatton @ 140...who ya got?
bump. this topic is interesting. I checked out the stats.
Pacq is 5 6 1/2 southpaw with a 67 inch reach
Hatton is 5 6, orthodox with a 65 inch reach
This fight has the potential to be a war. Both fighters move forward and both fighters have power.
Re: Wait a minute...hmmm...Pacquiao vs Hatton @ 140...who ya got?
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Okay folks,
Hatton beats Pac @ 140
Pac beats Hatton @ 130
Nuff said
Class Dismissed!
Why on earth would Hatton be fighting Pac at 130 pounds? Its not even remotely possible?! ::** :-\
It is possible.
Have you seen Pac-Morales 3? Erik drained himself to go down 130 from 180.
Same thing what will happen with Ricky. He will be weak and uncomfortably slow if he meet Pac @ 130.
If you say Hatton will easily beat Pac @ 140.. I agree!, but Pac will also easily beat Hatton @ 130.
It was hard to pick just one person to reply to on this largely idiotic thread but honestly to say that Pacquio would beat Hatton at 130 is just a dumb statement considering Hatton fights 2 weight divisions above.
You know what if Pacquiao fought a prime Ali at 130 lb he would whip his ass too. ::**
Most fighters choose to fight in their natural weight class which means the weight which is most appropriate for their body. Saying that one guy would beat another guy if the first guy emaciated himself to make weight is just a stupid self evident statement. It's like saying Peter McNeely could have beaten Tyson if Tyson had one arm tied behind his back, just a stupid thing to say.
Anyhoo back on topic there is no way Pacquiao could beat Hatton at 140. Pacman may be a half inch taller than Hatton but he has a much smaller frame and started out at 112lbs!
Plus both fighters use their physical size and strength to overcome their opponents. As we saw with Hatton, when moving up to 147 and faced with a naturally bigger man, he couldn't overwhelm him like he could smaller guys and that would be the exact same problem for Pacquiao if he moved up 2 weight classes to fight Ricky.
Ricky would just bully him. He'd be able to out muscle him on the inside and he'd either win a wide UD or knock Manny out.
People talking about Floyd moving up, well it's totally different. Floyd is phenomenally talented boxer who has the ring skills to outbox people and so can move up the weights and fight bigger guys as he's not relying on physical power to beat them.
Pacman relies on physical power, he's a puncher. Against bigger men his punches would have less effect whilst those of his opponents would have more. And Manny has never been hard to hit............
Re: Wait a minute...hmmm...Pacquiao vs Hatton @ 140...who ya got?
Re: Wait a minute...hmmm...Pacquiao vs Hatton @ 140...who ya got?
Here we go again. Some people judge pacman easily if he will be fighting well known fighters. But look what just happen to those who never believe in him, according to those two old folks commentator from HBO PPV, pac really handle himself well in higher weight class. Its footwork, Righthand punch and power is unbelievable. And one thing he really embarassed almost all high quality boxer. Now HATTON. well here we go again, judge pacman again, like height, ribcage, style come on man.. watch all his fights, he really dominate almost all his latest fights. Have you seen pacman in training? specially when he do situps and throws a bowling ball on his abs? Please think before you post here. Hatton is strong and he should do his best to beat pac. just dont underestimate your opponent or youl be in very big trouble. Cheers to all
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Here we go again. Some people judge pacman easily if he will be fighting well known fighters. But look what just happen to those who never believe in him, according to those two old folks commentator from HBO PPV, pac really handle himself well in higher weight class. Its footwork, Righthand punch and power is unbelievable. And one thing he really embarassed almost all high quality boxer. Now HATTON. well here we go again, judge pacman again, like height, ribcage, style come on man.. watch all his fights, he really dominate almost all his latest fights. Have you seen pacman in training? specially when he do situps and throws a bowling ball on his abs? Please think before you post here. Hatton is strong and he should do his best to beat pac. just dont underestimate your opponent or youl be in very big trouble. Cheers to all
Hatton wont underestimate Manny no way on this earth.Plus who would do that to the P4P number1.
Re: Wait a minute...hmmm...Pacquiao vs Hatton @ 140...who ya got?
I think Hatton wins by KO.He has good footwork which is over looked alot and is very good at closing the distance and if he get close which i think he will he will stop Pacquiao with body shots,maby land a few early that will slow him down but eventually he stops him with one.
Pacquiao has never been in with a fighter as strong as Hatton that is willing to fight back (ODHA never fought back) and i think that will be the differance seen as its Pacmans first outing at 147.
Re: Wait a minute...hmmm...Pacquiao vs Hatton @ 140...who ya got?
I think Pac bit more than he can chew on this one.:p
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Hmm.. hard to say that after seeing his last two outings.
You say you don't know where all this fatton talk comes from, I say I don't know where all this unbelievable stamina talk comes from.
Sure he looked good against nobodies early in his career, but it's hard to judge him based on those wins.
So when was Hatton's last good performance? Against KT two years ago?
Pac has all the advantage in stamina, imo.
Style match-up, I like Pac in the fight too.
The kind of guys who'll give Manny troubles are slicker guys who have better head and torso movement than Hatton.
Hatton needs a target who'll stand right in front of him.
Pac's awkward Tyson-style bobbing and weaving gives Hatton trouble all night.
I think Hatton gets worked by Pac.
Pac by KO.
I am not a Hatton fan, let's establish that before anything. But if you think Pac is not to small for Hatton then you must be a resident of one of those countries that legalized Marijuana. Also one of those two fights you talk about was at 147 and did not feel comfortable at his weight, maybe since then he has grown into it, you never know. It's funny that in your post you were able to point out so many great things about Pac and not one about Hatton who is an undefeated world champion. I smell Bias.
Didn't Pac weigh 147 in the ring in one of his last 2 fights? Plus he's got a height and reach advantage over Hatton. I understand Hatton has fought at a higher weight class, but that doesn't make him bigger. I think you'd be very surprised if they got in the ring together, and that Pac would actually be bigger.
they are both the same size! they are both around 5'6. difference is, manny will weigh around 148 come foght time and hatton will be more like 152.
Re: Wait a minute...hmmm...Pacquiao vs Hatton @ 140...who ya got?
Hatton will be an 8 round punching bag. This fight will be beautiful with great back and forth action, but Pac has shown tremendous growth, physically and mentally.
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I am not a Hatton fan, let's establish that before anything. But if you think Pac is not to small for Hatton then you must be a resident of one of those countries that legalized Marijuana. Also one of those two fights you talk about was at 147 and did not feel comfortable at his weight, maybe since then he has grown into it, you never know. It's funny that in your post you were able to point out so many great things about Pac and not one about Hatton who is an undefeated world champion. I smell Bias.
Didn't Pac weigh 147 in the ring in one of his last 2 fights? Plus he's got a height and reach advantage over Hatton. I understand Hatton has fought at a higher weight class, but that doesn't make him bigger. I think you'd be very surprised if they got in the ring together, and that Pac would actually be bigger.
they are both the same size! they are both around 5'6. difference is, manny will weigh around 148 come foght time and hatton will be more like 152.
The size depends on the training. Hatton can easily bulk up but I don't think he carries the weight power with him. He natural fighter at 140.
With these two it comes down to who backs down in the fight. If Hatton connects with good shots and can back Pacquiao up. Pacquiao's in trouble. If Pacquiao lands shots to Hatton, and Hatton can't get inside, Hatton's in trouble. The fight comes down to the man with the most heart wins.
We will just have to see if Mayweather Sr. is stupid enough to try and make a flat foot like Hatton a dancer. Not that it's bad to have foot skills, it's just not the Hatton way to get it done) I do hope he does because Pacquiao will take Hatton apart and the OK is by the 10th. Else Hatton abandons the Mayweather Sr. Plan and starts mauling Pacquiao.
152 is too heavy for Hatton and he'll slow down by the 7th round. 148-150 is a better weight for him because Pacquiao will be about 146-148.
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For some weird reason I had a dream last night about this fight, which is weird because I havn't even really been thinking about it.. If it was on my mind all the time then maybe..
Anyway, I was Pac and it was like rounds 4 or 5 and I was realizing that I wasn't hurting this Hattoon man in front of me much, and my body was hurting.. So I was trying to land a good one to the head again, and I got ripped with an enormous body shot on my left side right under the ribs that dropped me...
Except I wasn't southpaw and it was a big right hand hook/uppercut to the body that knocked me down, so it didn't entirely make sense...
I just think unless one of these fighters stops the other early, there is no reason this couldn't be fight of the year.. Whether it's a war or not, i'll be a huge matchup with 2 fighters who have been in the game a long time, and fighting another of the biggest fights of their lives.. Two guys that don't like to back off an inch...
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I was watching Erik morales Vs. Manny Pacquiao I yesterday and noticed Morales did some vicious work to Manny's body, I think that slowed Manny down quite a bit, on every shot morales gave him stopped him in his tracks.
Hatton beign a great body puncher as was Morales I got him by KO or TKO.
(Chanting Hatton song) GOOOOOOOOOOO Ricky Hatton! GOOOOOOOO Ricky Hatton!;D:cool:
Re: Wait a minute...hmmm...Pacquiao vs Hatton @ 140...who ya got?
I have to go with Pacquiao by KO....He has the pace of Hatton...In fact a faster pace because Manny can keep at it with no hit hold crap....I do not see a strength problem because Pacquiao showed he can carry power above 140...Lastly Pacquiao moves around a lot more then Hatton throws shots at more angles....
TBH the combo of Hatton and Mayweather could not come up with a better strategy then Pacquiao/Roach..
It all will boil own to the best fighter in the world P4P against the best fighter in a division
Just my Opp
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Didn't Pac weigh 147 in the ring in one of his last 2 fights? Plus he's got a height and reach advantage over Hatton. I understand Hatton has fought at a higher weight class, but that doesn't make him bigger. I think you'd be very surprised if they got in the ring together, and that Pac would actually be bigger.
they are both the same size! they are both around 5'6. difference is, manny will weigh around 148 come foght time and hatton will be more like 152.
The size depends on the training. Hatton can easily bulk up but I don't think he carries the weight power with him. He natural fighter at 140.
With these two it comes down to who backs down in the fight. If Hatton connects with good shots and can back Pacquiao up. Pacquiao's in trouble. If Pacquiao lands shots to Hatton, and Hatton can't get inside, Hatton's in trouble. The fight comes down to the man with the most heart wins.
We will just have to see if Mayweather Sr. is stupid enough to try and make a flat foot like Hatton a dancer. Not that it's bad to have foot skills, it's just not the Hatton way to get it done) I do hope he does because Pacquiao will take Hatton apart and the OK is by the 10th. Else Hatton abandons the Mayweather Sr. Plan and starts mauling Pacquiao.
152 is too heavy for Hatton and he'll slow down by the 7th round. 148-150 is a better weight for him because Pacquiao will be about 146-148.
I disagree with the 152 is to heavy for hatton! he weighed 152 against malignaggi and that is around his usual fight weight. he didnt look slow against malignaggi.
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I have to go with Pacquiao by KO....He has the pace of Hatton...In fact a faster pace because Manny can keep at it with no hit hold crap....I do not see a strength problem because Pacquiao showed he can carry power above 140...Lastly Pacquiao moves around a lot more then Hatton throws shots at more angles....
TBH the combo of Hatton and Mayweather could not come up with a better strategy then Pacquiao/Roach..
It all will boil own to the best fighter in the world P4P against the best fighter in a division
Just my Opp
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