Cory Spinks vs Jermain Taylor Who Really Won Come And Vote

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05-21-2007, 11:59 AM
Jimanuel Boogustus

Re: Cory Spinks vs Jermain Taylor Who Really Won Come And Vote

FOUUUCK! 50% ???

Is that it?! :-\

And theres people here who think Calzaghe needs to fight this clown :P
05-21-2007, 12:39 PM
bzkfn

Re: Cory Spinks vs Jermain Taylor Who Really Won Come And Vote

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I wanted Taylor to win but in reality Spinks schooled him . He did something Hopkins and Winky couldnt .

Props to Cory

He fought a good fight but he lost. Taylor is a guy who fights to the level of the guys he fights. If the guy is good he will show his talent. I think Pavlik will make things easy for Taylor to shine. Effective aggressiveness is how you win moving forward, and with boxing you have to land effective counters and control the action and not get hit. Cory did not do that. Cory fought a busy fight and was quicker with shorter punches but he did not land a solid punch. How can you win a fight like that?

It was teh same way Floyd beat Oscar .

Spinks stuck to his gameplan and fought his fight .Taylor didnt . You could see at the end the look on both fighters faces , they knew the score and so did Manny Stewart

no it was not the same way Floyd beat Oscar. Look at punchstats. FLoyd was landing more effective punches. Big difference. Taylor controlled the action.. So did Floyd. Big difference

Totally disagree, Taylor didn't control a damn thing. Look at his punch stats. I can't remember him throwing anything effective. Like I've said in other posts. How the hell does Taylor expect to win without throwing.
05-21-2007, 06:19 PM
The Boxer

Re: Cory Spinks vs Jermain Taylor Who Really Won Come And Vote

i'm shocked that so many people feel like spinks won when basicly everyone execpt me counted spinks out
05-21-2007, 06:29 PM
Pugilistic

Re: Cory Spinks vs Jermain Taylor Who Really Won Come And Vote

i'm downloading the fight right now. i will let you know what i think after i've seen it ;)
05-21-2007, 06:35 PM
shza

Re: Cory Spinks vs Jermain Taylor Who Really Won Come And Vote

I thought Taylor won 116-112. It was a horrible, horrible fight. And I don't know how anyone can compare Spinks' performance to Floyd's against Oscar. Floyd landed close to 50% of his punches. Spinks landed about 15%. Taylor obviously looked terrible too. He knew what to expect, and yet he still came in there with absolutely no ability to cut off the ring. I thought Oscar looked bad against Floyd, but at least he knew how to get Floyd into a corner (before missing with a flurry). In the end, they seemed to land about the same number of shots, but Taylor was the only one that landed anything at all meaningful (though he didn't do it much). Manny was giving perfect advice, and Taylor simply was not following it.

I also want to say that, while I congratulate Pavlik, and far more enjoyed that fight than the "main event," I thought Pavlik and Miranda both looked incredibly sloppy, and I think Taylor beats Pavlik easily. But I'd rather see Taylor-Calzaghe, which Calzaghe wins.
05-21-2007, 07:50 PM
Majesty

Re: Cory Spinks vs Jermain Taylor Who Really Won Come And Vote

I thought Spinks won the fight.

And those punchstats were bogus but everyone says Spinks wasn't active enough to win. Well if you look at the punchstats the only thing I agree with is that Spinks threw a lot more punches then Taylor did and I think he landed a lot more too. If anyone was active the entire fight it was Spinks. He was the one who was throwing on the inside while Taylor was stalking and stalking and looking for one shot.

Spinks fought his style and took Taylor's title with his own style.

That whole "take" the title from a champion is a misconception. Spinks took the title from Taylor fighting "his" style and "his" gameplan, not Taylors.
05-21-2007, 07:55 PM
BoxingGorilla

Re: Cory Spinks vs Jermain Taylor Who Really Won Come And Vote

I thought Taylor won 116-112. It was a horrible, horrible fight. And I don't know how anyone can compare Spinks' performance to Floyd's against Oscar. Floyd landed close to 50% of his punches. Spinks landed about 15%. Shza

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05-21-2007, 07:59 PM
Majesty

Re: Cory Spinks vs Jermain Taylor Who Really Won Come And Vote

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I thought Taylor won 116-112. It was a horrible, horrible fight. And I don't know how anyone can compare Spinks' performance to Floyd's against Oscar. Floyd landed close to 50% of his punches. Spinks landed about 15%. Shza

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Watching that fight with your own eyes and not relying on punchstats I saw Spinks outlanding Taylor.

Anyway here's the scorecard

(Taylor's to the left, Spinks is to the right)

http://www.fightnews.com/taylor_spinks_scorecard.gif

And the most underappreciated thing was how Spinks countered Jermains left hand by sneaking his shots under it and jabbing him in the face like this

http://boxing-pics.com/taylor_spinks/taylor013.jpg

I thought Spinks clearly won that fight honestly.
05-21-2007, 08:13 PM
Unknowndonor

Re: Cory Spinks vs Jermain Taylor Who Really Won Come And Vote

This fight was garbage. I gave the edge to Taylor. One guy wanted to play tag, and the other didn't want to do anything. Although Spinks outworked Taylor, JT landed the more meaningful blows. I wouldn't have been dissappointed with a draw, or a loss for both.
05-21-2007, 08:15 PM
Majesty

Re: Cory Spinks vs Jermain Taylor Who Really Won Come And Vote

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This fight was garbage. I gave the edge to Taylor. One guy wanted to play tag, and the other didn't want to do anything. Although Spinks outworked Taylor, JT landed the more meaningful blows. I wouldn't have been dissappointed with a draw, or a loss for both.

By meaningful do you mean the "one shot that wins a round even though you lost the first 2:30 of it" shots that you shouldn't get unless you are the champ ???
05-21-2007, 08:25 PM
Unknowndonor

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This fight was garbage. I gave the edge to Taylor. One guy wanted to play tag, and the other didn't want to do anything. Although Spinks outworked Taylor, JT landed the more meaningful blows. I wouldn't have been dissappointed with a draw, or a loss for both.

By meaningful do you mean the "one shot that wins a round even though you lost the first 2:30 of it" shots that you shouldn't get unless you are the champ ???

Something like that, LOL. Taylor could have won that fight easily, IMO, If he did anything. It's almost like he wanted to lose. WTF is his problem? Like I said, a draw wouldn't have been out of the question, at all. Hell, if Spinks won, it wouldn't have suprised me. Neither guy WANTED the fight, IMO.
05-21-2007, 10:02 PM
RozzySean

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I had Taylor ahead by 1 going into the final round, and I thought the final round went pretty clearly to Jermaine. I must admit, I was pulling hard by the end of the fight for Cory to pull off the upset. The more I see Taylor, the more I think that he is crap. He seems like a nice enough guy, and I understood why he took this fight, but he's going to get sparked by either Joe C or Kelly P.
05-22-2007, 04:33 AM
sexydarin

Re: Cory Spinks vs Jermain Taylor Who Really Won Come And Vote

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This fight was garbage. I gave the edge to Taylor. One guy wanted to play tag, and the other didn't want to do anything. Although Spinks outworked Taylor, JT landed the more meaningful blows. I wouldn't have been dissappointed with a draw, or a loss for both.

That's what i was wishing for. A big fat loss for both of these posers.
05-22-2007, 05:50 AM
Purist

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This fight was garbage. I gave the edge to Taylor. One guy wanted to play tag, and the other didn't want to do anything. Although Spinks outworked Taylor, JT landed the more meaningful blows. I wouldn't have been dissappointed with a draw, or a loss for both.

That's what i was wishing for. A big fat loss for both of these posers.

Spinks moved up after two fights at 154 to fight the Undisputed Middleweight champ when it isn't even his weight class and Jermain Taylor is in his prime!! And he outboxed him and won that fight. He fought his fight and kept Jermain off balance all night.

What more could you want ???
05-22-2007, 10:36 AM
GAME

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This fight was garbage. I gave the edge to Taylor. One guy wanted to play tag, and the other didn't want to do anything. Although Spinks outworked Taylor, JT landed the more meaningful blows. I wouldn't have been dissappointed with a draw, or a loss for both.

By meaningful do you mean the "one shot that wins a round even though you lost the first 2:30 of it" shots that you shouldn't get unless you are the champ ???

You are spot on with your assessment Majesty .

If Spinks wasnt jabbing under Taylors jab he was countering over it . He was fighting his fight and effectivley shutting down the champion . Spinks was a big winner .

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