Re: Wladimer isn't a great but i give him a chance against some of the greats
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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Wladimir has the ability to KO all of them.How about that.
Yes but he wouldn't.
And why is this do they have force fields? ::**
No but does Wlad ?? jeez Wlad is decent thats it decent he hasn't even dominated weakest era of hws yet and has been koed by Sanders for crying out loud the guy who likes golf more than boxing most on that list would tear Wlad apart.
I don't get it why getting caught by a huge shot by Sanders(a huge puncher)has anything to do with fighting a small light hitting Ali has anything to do with each other?I would love to see Ali take that same shot. ::**
I would love to see Wladimir fight the 200lb guys Ali dined on, talk about a cake walk.Wladimir has been facing guys consistantly over 230lbs with the majority in the 240lb range and some in the 260's!When you are that size you can hit.
Re: Wladimer isn't a great but i give him a chance against some of the greats
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Wladimir has the ability to KO all of them.How about that.
Yes but he wouldn't.
And why is this do they have force fields? ::**
No but does Wlad ?? jeez Wlad is decent thats it decent he hasn't even dominated weakest era of hws yet and has been koed by Sanders for crying out loud the guy who likes golf more than boxing most on that list would tear Wlad apart.
I don't get it why getting caught by a huge shot by Sanders(a huge puncher)has anything to do with fighting a small light hitting Ali has anything to do with each other?I would love to see Ali take that same shot. ::**
21 fights into ali's career he had 18 ko's and the shot that frazier hit ali with would've had wlad down for the count. You're trying to make the case for the wrong klitschko. If you wanna make an arguement over which one would beat up on the ATG's, i'd suggest going with vitali.
Re: Wladimer isn't a great but i give him a chance against some of the greats
This is getting silly now im not bringing up Ali why do you keep bringing him up and for record Ali has been hit by hardest hitting hws of all time and still wasn't koed Wlad is decent thats it.
Re: Wladimer isn't a great but i give him a chance against some of the greats
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This is getting silly now im not bring up Ali why do you keep bringing him up and for record Ali has been hit by hardest hitting hws of all time and still wasn't koed Wlad is decent thats it.
Once again was this proven that they hit harder than Wladimir?Was it measured or something?There is a difference when you are Wladimir's size as a heavyweight and a guy like Joe Louis, who do you really think hits harder?
Re: Wladimer isn't a great but i give him a chance against some of the greats
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
This is getting silly now im not bring up Ali why do you keep bringing him up and for record Ali has been hit by hardest hitting hws of all time and still wasn't koed Wlad is decent thats it.
Once again was this proven that they hit harder than Wladimir?Was it measured or something?There is a difference when you are Wladimir's size as a heavyweight and a guy like Joe Louis, who do you really think hits harder?
Yes they do because i've seen when they fight and Shavers and Foreman both hit harder Wlads chin is weak i mean badly weak and he isn't exactly hardest guy to hit even DaVarryl Williamson floored Wlad and Calvin Brock was pretty much even with Wlad until he got koed and he isn't good by any means.
Re: Wladimer isn't a great but i give him a chance against some of the greats
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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This is getting silly now im not bring up Ali why do you keep bringing him up and for record Ali has been hit by hardest hitting hws of all time and still wasn't koed Wlad is decent thats it.
Once again was this proven that they hit harder than Wladimir?Was it measured or something?There is a difference when you are Wladimir's size as a heavyweight and a guy like Joe Louis, who do you really think hits harder?
Yes they do because i've seen when they fight and Shavers and Foreman both hit harder Wlads chin is weak i mean badly weak and he isn't exactly hardest guy to hit even DaVarryl Williamson floored Wlad and Calvin Brock was pretty much even with Wlad until he got koed and he isn't good by any means.
So just by watching them fight guys Wladimir has never fought you can tell they hit harder?Not a very compelling statement.
I won't go into that Williamson knock down because that was a joke, he was backpedalling and off balance and hopped right back up by the count of 2.
The Brock fight Wladimir was on cruise control until Manny told him to take care of business in round 7 and you saw what happened.
Re: Wladimer isn't a great but i give him a chance against some of the greats
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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This is getting silly now im not bring up Ali why do you keep bringing him up and for record Ali has been hit by hardest hitting hws of all time and still wasn't koed Wlad is decent thats it.
Once again was this proven that they hit harder than Wladimir?Was it measured or something?There is a difference when you are Wladimir's size as a heavyweight and a guy like Joe Louis, who do you really think hits harder?
Yes they do because i've seen when they fight and Shavers and Foreman both hit harder Wlads chin is weak i mean badly weak and he isn't exactly hardest guy to hit even DaVarryl Williamson floored Wlad and Calvin Brock was pretty much even with Wlad until he got koed and he isn't good by any means.
So just by watching them fight guys Wladimir has never fought you can tell they hit harder?Not a very compelling statement.
I won't go into that Williamson knock down because that was a joke, he was backpedalling and off balance and hopped right back up by the count of 2.
The Brock fight Wladimir was on cruise control until Manny told him to take care of business in round 7 and you saw what happened.
Well most would agree with me that Foreman and Shavers hit harder as i say again Wlad is decent and you may change your opinion of him after his career is finished i personally think Vitali has better shot at atg that Wlad has.
Re: Wladimer isn't a great but i give him a chance against some of the greats
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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This is getting silly now im not bring up Ali why do you keep bringing him up and for record Ali has been hit by hardest hitting hws of all time and still wasn't koed Wlad is decent thats it.
Once again was this proven that they hit harder than Wladimir?Was it measured or something?There is a difference when you are Wladimir's size as a heavyweight and a guy like Joe Louis, who do you really think hits harder?
Yes they do because i've seen when they fight and Shavers and Foreman both hit harder Wlads chin is weak i mean badly weak and he isn't exactly hardest guy to hit even DaVarryl Williamson floored Wlad and Calvin Brock was pretty much even with Wlad until he got koed and he isn't good by any means.
Calvin Brock has absolutely no chance against Wlad. I never thought he had a prayer. Wald was buying his time. He was like a mouse in a snake's cage. A sacrificial lamb that some moron somwhere thought could box. Boxing banker. what a joke. When he hit the ground he was so limp it was like someone shot him.
Re: Wladimer isn't a great but i give him a chance against some of the greats
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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This is getting silly now im not bring up Ali why do you keep bringing him up and for record Ali has been hit by hardest hitting hws of all time and still wasn't koed Wlad is decent thats it.
Once again was this proven that they hit harder than Wladimir?Was it measured or something?There is a difference when you are Wladimir's size as a heavyweight and a guy like Joe Louis, who do you really think hits harder?
Yes they do because i've seen when they fight and Shavers and Foreman both hit harder Wlads chin is weak i mean badly weak and he isn't exactly hardest guy to hit even DaVarryl Williamson floored Wlad and Calvin Brock was pretty much even with Wlad until he got koed and he isn't good by any means.
So just by watching them fight guys Wladimir has never fought you can tell they hit harder?Not a very compelling statement.
I won't go into that Williamson knock down because that was a joke, he was backpedalling and off balance and hopped right back up by the count of 2.
The Brock fight Wladimir was on cruise control until Manny told him to take care of business in round 7 and you saw what happened.
Well most would agree with me that Foreman and Shavers hit harder as i say again Wlad is decent and you may change your opinion of him after his career is finished i personally think Vitali has better shot at atg that Wlad has.
Just because people believe something it doesn't make it a fact.A lot of people believe in UFO's and the Sasquaches it doesn't make them real.
And you might change your opinion of him after he retires. ;D
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It is almost comical how people think Ali would mop the floor with Wladimir.Without ANY COMPARABLE fighter from his era to go by there is no way you can come to that conclusion.The guys Wladimir has lost to are MUCH bigger punchers than Ali except for Puritty but that was more from inexperience going 12 rounds than anything.Nobody had the physical abilities of Wladimir back then NOBODY.
Foreman would beat him senseless..... ;) your right though, it takes great athleticism to flail around like a retard when you get hit on the chin like that.... Those mentioned Heavies were professinal fighters with heart, determination and steely will..... Wlad has yet to demonstrate those abilities...
I can tell you are being very diplomatic about this. ::**I personally like to rely on facts rather than just believe Ali would beat everyone because he is the self proclaimed greatest of all time.The fact still is Ali never fought a guy that was as fast, as strong, as quick, as big, as skilled as Wladimir is in one package.Foreman could punch but was not effecient with his punches and they were very wide shots.Wladimir throws much straighter shots and much faster.I could go on and on but if you don't like Wladimir I am not going to waste my time trying to convince you.
cc Klitschkofan They hate the ko brothers so they will talk them down with fighters from the past(fighters they know he will never face), throw in their losses from the past and talk down their wins"had Peter had more experiance he(Wlad) would'nt have got by him". Well he did and Samuel Peter's slow A S S won't get past him next time either no matter how much or what he has learned.Everyone acts like or thinks Wlad just sits on his ass waiting for the next fight while Peter is training his ass off. Everyone thinks (hopes)Wlad will make the same mistakes, well they will see Wlad did his homework Lamon Brewster will lose. Peace out
Re: Wladimer isn't a great but i give him a chance against some of the greats
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This is getting silly now im not bring up Ali why do you keep bringing him up and for record Ali has been hit by hardest hitting hws of all time and still wasn't koed Wlad is decent thats it.
Once again was this proven that they hit harder than Wladimir?Was it measured or something?There is a difference when you are Wladimir's size as a heavyweight and a guy like Joe Louis, who do you really think hits harder?
Yes they do because i've seen when they fight and Shavers and Foreman both hit harder Wlads chin is weak i mean badly weak and he isn't exactly hardest guy to hit even DaVarryl Williamson floored Wlad and Calvin Brock was pretty much even with Wlad until he got koed and he isn't good by any means.
So just by watching them fight guys Wladimir has never fought you can tell they hit harder?Not a very compelling statement.
I won't go into that Williamson knock down because that was a joke, he was backpedalling and off balance and hopped right back up by the count of 2.
The Brock fight Wladimir was on cruise control until Manny told him to take care of business in round 7 and you saw what happened.
Well most would agree with me that Foreman and Shavers hit harder as i say again Wlad is decent and you may change your opinion of him after his career is finished i personally think Vitali has better shot at atg that Wlad has.
Just because people believe something it doesn't make it a fact.A lot of people believe in UFO's and the Sasquaches it doesn't make them real.
And you might change your opinion of him after he retires. ;D
Well when you ask boxing experts who they consider hardest hitting hws of all time your get Shavers Foreman Tyson pop up like i said again Wlad is decent hw with a bad chin and all his kos have been against fighters where he expected to win if Wlad had better chin he would stand better chance but im sorry when boxer who has decent skills but isn't very hard to hit and has weak chin against ATG that sounds like disaster to me.
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It is almost comical how people think Ali would mop the floor with Wladimir.Without ANY COMPARABLE fighter from his era to go by there is no way you can come to that conclusion.The guys Wladimir has lost to are MUCH bigger punchers than Ali except for Puritty but that was more from inexperience going 12 rounds than anything.Nobody had the physical abilities of Wladimir back then NOBODY.
Foreman would beat him senseless..... ;) your right though, it takes great athleticism to flail around like a retard when you get hit on the chin like that.... Those mentioned Heavies were professinal fighters with heart, determination and steely will..... Wlad has yet to demonstrate those abilities...
I can tell you are being very diplomatic about this. ::**I personally like to rely on facts rather than just believe Ali would beat everyone because he is the self proclaimed greatest of all time.The fact still is Ali never fought a guy that was as fast, as strong, as quick, as big, as skilled as Wladimir is in one package.Foreman could punch but was not effecient with his punches and they were very wide shots.Wladimir throws much straighter shots and much faster.I could go on and on but if you don't like Wladimir I am not going to waste my time trying to convince you.
cc Klitschkofan They hate the ko brothers so they will talk them down with fighters from the past(fighters they know he will never face), throw in their losses from the past and talk down their wins"had Peter had more experiance he(Wlad) would'nt have got by him". Well he did and Samuel Peter's slow A S S won't get past him next time either no matter how much or what he has learned.Everyone acts like or thinks Wlad just sits on his a** waiting for the next fight while Peter is training his a** off. Everyone thinks (hopes)Wlad will make the same mistakes, well they will see Wlad did his homework Lamon Brewster will lose. Peace out
No one hates anyone so stop assuming i actually quite like the brothers and i think Punisher does aswell but none of them are anything special one brother has good skills with badly weak chin and stamina problems and other brother fights robotic and hasn't got the skills of his brother Wlad.
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Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
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It is almost comical how people think Ali would mop the floor with Wladimir.Without ANY COMPARABLE fighter from his era to go by there is no way you can come to that conclusion.The guys Wladimir has lost to are MUCH bigger punchers than Ali except for Puritty but that was more from inexperience going 12 rounds than anything.Nobody had the physical abilities of Wladimir back then NOBODY.
Foreman would beat him senseless..... ;) your right though, it takes great athleticism to flail around like a retard when you get hit on the chin like that.... Those mentioned Heavies were professinal fighters with heart, determination and steely will..... Wlad has yet to demonstrate those abilities...
I can tell you are being very diplomatic about this. ::**I personally like to rely on facts rather than just believe Ali would beat everyone because he is the self proclaimed greatest of all time.The fact still is Ali never fought a guy that was as fast, as strong, as quick, as big, as skilled as Wladimir is in one package.Foreman could punch but was not effecient with his punches and they were very wide shots.Wladimir throws much straighter shots and much faster.I could go on and on but if you don't like Wladimir I am not going to waste my time trying to convince you.
cc Klitschkofan They hate the ko brothers so they will talk them down with fighters from the past(fighters they know he will never face), throw in their losses from the past and talk down their wins"had Peter had more experiance he(Wlad) would'nt have got by him". Well he did and Samuel Peter's slow A S S won't get past him next time either no matter how much or what he has learned.Everyone acts like or thinks Wlad just sits on his a** waiting for the next fight while Peter is training his a** off. Everyone thinks (hopes)Wlad will make the same mistakes, well they will see Wlad did his homework Lamon Brewster will lose. Peace out
Yea that is true they do bring up fighters from the past who they say could beat him and there is no way to prove otherwise because they are either dead or to old to fight! ;D
Re: Wladimer isn't a great but i give him a chance against some of the greats
Wladimer always has a chance . great right hand. it comes off fast and accurate .
Re: Wladimer isn't a great but i give him a chance against some of the greats
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It is almost comical how people think Ali would mop the floor with Wladimir.Without ANY COMPARABLE fighter from his era to go by there is no way you can come to that conclusion.The guys Wladimir has lost to are MUCH bigger punchers than Ali except for Puritty but that was more from inexperience going 12 rounds than anything.Nobody had the physical abilities of Wladimir back then NOBODY.
Foreman would beat him senseless..... ;) your right though, it takes great athleticism to flail around like a retard when you get hit on the chin like that.... Those mentioned Heavies were professinal fighters with heart, determination and steely will..... Wlad has yet to demonstrate those abilities...
I can tell you are being very diplomatic about this. ::**I personally like to rely on facts rather than just believe Ali would beat everyone because he is the self proclaimed greatest of all time.The fact still is Ali never fought a guy that was as fast, as strong, as quick, as big, as skilled as Wladimir is in one package.Foreman could punch but was not effecient with his punches and they were very wide shots.Wladimir throws much straighter shots and much faster.I could go on and on but if you don't like Wladimir I am not going to waste my time trying to convince you.
cc Klitschkofan They hate the ko brothers so they will talk them down with fighters from the past(fighters they know he will never face), throw in their losses from the past and talk down their wins"had Peter had more experiance he(Wlad) would'nt have got by him". Well he did and Samuel Peter's slow A S S won't get past him next time either no matter how much or what he has learned.Everyone acts like or thinks Wlad just sits on his a** waiting for the next fight while Peter is training his a** off. Everyone thinks (hopes)Wlad will make the same mistakes, well they will see Wlad did his homework Lamon Brewster will lose. Peace out
No one hates anyone so stop assuming i actually quite like the brothers and i think Punisher does aswell but none of them are anything special one brother has good skills with badly weak chin and stamina problems and other brother fights robotic and hasn't got the skills of his brother Wlad.
I always love the robotic style comment because robots are the most efficient invention in history!Vitali did have a way of efficiently KOing his foes. ;D
What no clever comeback?The truth is hard to argue with.
