Re: What did you think of Hatton's performance?
really? you can't see the difference in trying to maul your opponent ala WWF and using superior footwork. I hope they don't teach this as the way to win. ::**
Re: What did you think of Hatton's performance?
i thought they tended to break themselves apart but also feel that Rickys footwork is such that he does,nt need to hold half as much as he does ;)
His movement (at times) was great and when he starts using his rapid lateral movement he is at his best. 8)
On the whole he was outstanding and remember that NO ONE has ever done that to Castillo.
Re: What did you think of Hatton's performance?
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Originally Posted by Missy
really? you can't see the difference in trying to maul your opponent ala WWF and using superior footwork. I hope they don't teach this as the way to win. ::**
i just cant see hating on hatton for it and then giving a pass to mayweather.. that was my point.. and hatton's style is still more exciting than mayweather's
grabbing, the body shots, and giving the angles hatton was is called controlling the tempo and dominating every round and is a skillset unto itself... and the tempo is higher than mayweather's"superior footwork"style otherwise known as running..
hitting and not getting hit.. thats how i would teach on winning... using your strengths against your opponents weakness, however style you might need to use...
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On the whole he was outstanding and remember that NO ONE has ever done that to Castillo.
:appl: :coolclick:
Re: What did you think of Hatton's performance?
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Originally Posted by Missy
really? you can't see the difference in trying to maul your opponent ala WWF and using superior footwork. I hope they don't teach this as the way to win. ::**
i just cant see hating on hatton for it and then giving a pass to mayweather.. that was my point.. and hatton's style is still more exciting than mayweather's
grabbing, the body shots, and giving the angles hatton was is called controlling the tempo and dominating every round and is a skillset unto itself... and the tempo is higher than mayweather's"superior footwork"style otherwise known as running..
hitting and not getting hit.. thats how i would teach on winning... using your strengths against your opponents weakness, however style you might need to use...
It all depends on what you like out of your boxer.
I for one totally loathe to the highest degree holding in boxing. I HATE IT!!!
If you believe that using superior footwork equates to running in regards to Mayweather...your'e just wrong & contradicting yourself. You want to teach hit & not be hit (which is the largest part of boxing) then you use Floyd as an example.
Floyd has been in many MANY action fights...people just tend to let their hate blind them & wipe their memory's clean of Floyd's matches against Castillo, Manfredy, Jukko, Hernandex, Corrales, Chavez, & yes even the Oscar fight.
Re: What did you think of Hatton's performance?
I thought Rick looked good, very sharpe, fast hands and feet and a welcome return to the body attack that had gone into hiding recently. The holding isnt a big deal for me, as long as the punches are still being shipped I dont care how he manouvres himself into position to do it (against Urango that was OTT, no nead for all that)
Was Castillo shot? No I dont think so, Antwun Echols, now thats shot. Castillo, obviously not the force he used to be was simply outmuscled by a younger fitter stronger man.
The amount of people that have jumped on the Castillo being shot bandwagon is no surprise.
Re: What did you think of Hatton's performance?
There was more action in Hatton/Castillo fight than in the whole of the De Le Hoya/Mayweather fight!
As much as I think Mayweathers defensive skills are second to none I much prefer to watch an all action fighter like Ricky Hatton cause he always has me on the edge of my seat.
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really? you can't see the difference in trying to maul your opponent ala WWF and using superior footwork. I hope they don't teach this as the way to win. ::**
i just cant see hating on hatton for it and then giving a pass to mayweather.. that was my point.. and hatton's style is still more exciting than mayweather's
grabbing, the body shots, and giving the angles hatton was is called controlling the tempo and dominating every round and is a skillset unto itself... and the tempo is higher than mayweather's"superior footwork"style otherwise known as running..
hitting and not getting hit.. thats how i would teach on winning... using your strengths against your opponents weakness, however style you might need to use...
It all depends on what you like out of your boxer.
I for one totally loathe to the highest degree holding in boxing. I HATE IT!!!
If you believe that using superior footwork equates to running in regards to Mayweather...your'e just wrong & contradicting yourself. You want to teach hit & not be hit (which is the largest part of boxing) then you use Floyd as an example.
Floyd has been in many MANY action fights...people just tend to let their hate blind them & wipe their memory's clean of Floyd's matches against Castillo, Manfredy, Jukko, Hernandex, Corrales, Chavez, & yes even the Oscar fight.
i love mayweather inside the ropes.. i complement him on being #1 p4p and having the balls to fight DLH again and DLH wouldnt
i use PBF as an example because some people might not like his style, you have to respect it... and its the same 3,4 punch then move or hold that both use and takes the equal amount of skill to use both of their techniqes as well as they do
i think hatton has been in so many action fights that i dont have to mention them and if people you are equating that too holding style its the same if i say mayweather's style is running... isnt it?
i think mayweather has a beautiful style that i usually dont like...
' i just say the running style, cause thats how i feel when people call hattons style holding... ;D
Re: What did you think of Hatton's performance?
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Castillo was the one leading the holding, Hatton was trying to break clear and get his shots off - he knew he had JLC's number after 2 mins, so why would he hold
I know you're not serious so I'll leave that alone.
Re: What did you think of Hatton's performance?
Give Ricky an 8 he is a good Boxer wish he would do that more instead of Muay Thai clinching ;D but his handspeed and accuracey just overmatched Castillo from the start... Although Castillo was coming on in the 3rd and 4th.. Hatton really snuffed out the rally with that shot ;)
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really? you can't see the difference in trying to maul your opponent ala WWF and using superior footwork. I hope they don't teach this as the way to win. ::**
i just cant see hating on hatton for it and then giving a pass to mayweather.. that was my point.. and hatton's style is still more exciting than mayweather's
grabbing, the body shots, and giving the angles hatton was is called controlling the tempo and dominating every round and is a skillset unto itself... and the tempo is higher than mayweather's"superior footwork"style otherwise known as running..
hitting and not getting hit.. thats how i would teach on winning... using your strengths against your opponents weakness, however style you might need to use...
It all depends on what you like out of your boxer.
I for one totally loathe to the highest degree holding in boxing. I HATE IT!!!
If you believe that using superior footwork equates to running in regards to Mayweather...your'e just wrong & contradicting yourself. You want to teach hit & not be hit (which is the largest part of boxing) then you use Floyd as an example.
Floyd has been in many MANY action fights...people just tend to let their hate blind them & wipe their memory's clean of Floyd's matches against Castillo, Manfredy, Jukko, Hernandex, Corrales, Chavez, & yes even the Oscar fight.
The Oscar fight ? The only exciting bit in that was the last 3-4 seconds.
Rest of them though, yea they were mostly good
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Originally Posted by Fire
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Originally Posted by Missy
really? you can't see the difference in trying to maul your opponent ala WWF and using superior footwork. I hope they don't teach this as the way to win. ::**
i just cant see hating on hatton for it and then giving a pass to mayweather.. that was my point.. and hatton's style is still more exciting than mayweather's
grabbing, the body shots, and giving the angles hatton was is called controlling the tempo and dominating every round and is a skillset unto itself... and the tempo is higher than mayweather's"superior footwork"style otherwise known as running..
hitting and not getting hit.. thats how i would teach on winning... using your strengths against your opponents weakness, however style you might need to use...
It all depends on what you like out of your boxer.
I for one totally loathe to the highest degree holding in boxing. I HATE IT!!!
If you believe that using superior footwork equates to running in regards to Mayweather...your'e just wrong & contradicting yourself. You want to teach hit & not be hit (which is the largest part of boxing) then you use Floyd as an example.
Floyd has been in many MANY action fights...people just tend to let their hate blind them & wipe their memory's clean of Floyd's matches against Castillo, Manfredy, Jukko, Hernandex, Corrales, Chavez, & yes even the Oscar fight.
:coolclick: I agree with your completely Wacko. Floyd is in no way a negative hit and run fighter like people say, he's fought like that in one fight against Baldimor, in every other fight he's been exciting.
I love watching Floyd fight, he's an artist in the ring and I fail to see how any true boxing fan cannot appreciate his skills or his boxing style. The sweet science of boxing is about hitting and avoiding being hit and Floyd is the master, at least in our present era.
Hatton avoids getting hit by grabbing hold of an opponent and not allowing them to throw. There is no skill in that, it's just a rotten way to fight and a style that is rightly hated when anyone other than Hatton does it. To me he's no different to John Ruiz, just with better aggression and more speed.
Re: What did you think of Hatton's performance?
I'm adittedly a Hatton Fanatic, worship the ground he walks on to be honest, and i loved the fight last Saturday night. It was exactly what i wanted to see...(i had predicted a Ko win around round 10 so i was way off!) But he seemed a little anxious to impress at the start, mayb wasting a little bit of energy. I'm not saying he started to quickly! A fast start was crucial, in order to establish his superior handspeed and (imo) power also. But he jus missed a few against an opponent who isn't exactly notoriously hard to locate. This may be put down to nerves/anxiety, but it was mistakes like that which would have resulted in him tiring in a longer fight. All IMO
Re: What did you think of Hatton's performance?
I am destroyed that JLC is done.........I give hatton an 8, I absolutely hate his
holding, he's like John Ruiz in fast forward, but I give him credit for executing
his game plan and absolutely dominating the fight.
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I am destroyed that JLC is done.........I give hatton an 8, I absolutely hate his
holding, he's like John Ruiz in fast forward, but I give him credit for executing
his game plan and absolutely dominating the fight.
Mate Castillo was more guilty than Hatton for Holding
