Re: Oscar to fight Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by Kel
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I entirely disagree that it doesn't prove anything. Forget that Oscar faught Mayweather, then what does it prove, or factor it in, it puts Hatton on par with Mayweather at the present if he wins. If Oscar wins, it means he's still a force to be reckoned with. Plus it makes money, now when has making money proved nothing?
Forget that Oscar fought (and lost) againsed Mayweather? I don't get it
What was Hattons paycut? Surely he still made millions, and he did get to fight the champ in his own town, i mean he should have made way less than Kostya. I dont think that proves he is not greedy.
Re: Oscar to fight Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
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Originally Posted by Kel
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I entirely disagree that it doesn't prove anything. Forget that Oscar faught Mayweather, then what does it prove, or factor it in, it puts Hatton on par with Mayweather at the present if he wins. If Oscar wins, it means he's still a force to be reckoned with. Plus it makes money, now when has making money proved nothing?
Forget that Oscar fought (and lost) againsed Mayweather? I don't get it
What was Hattons paycut? Surely he still made millions, and he did get to fight the champ in his own town, i mean he should have made way less than Kostya. I dont think that proves he is not greedy.
I kinda forgot to write what I was supposed to their, what I meant was that before the Mayweather fight, the idea of Oscar was that he was a force to be reckoned with, and even though he lost to Mayweather, the fight was very close, some thought Oscar even won. Catch my drift, I know I'm kinda rambling. :-[
Re: Oscar to fight Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
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I entirely disagree that it doesn't prove anything. Forget that Oscar faught Mayweather, then what does it prove, or factor it in, it puts Hatton on par with Mayweather at the present if he wins. If Oscar wins, it means he's still a force to be reckoned with. Plus it makes money, now when has making money proved nothing?
i agree with u. My question is why will Hatton move up in weight to fight de la hoya but not go up to fight PBF?
The rumour of Hatton not being willing to fight Mayweather at 147/154 is completely unfounded and is anti-Hatton propaganda. I'd go as far as to guess it came from the same source that claimed Hatton agreed to a Collazo rematch, and has turned down a fight with Mayweather countless times.
Thanks for the info. Has hatton stated he would move to 147 to fight pbf?
No
He has, about a million times. Quotes are coming up in a minute my friend.
Re: Oscar to fight Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
I entirely disagree that it doesn't prove anything. Forget that Oscar faught Mayweather, then what does it prove, or factor it in, it puts Hatton on par with Mayweather at the present if he wins. If Oscar wins, it means he's still a force to be reckoned with. Plus it makes money, now when has making money proved nothing?
i agree with u. My question is why will Hatton move up in weight to fight de la hoya but not go up to fight PBF?
The rumour of Hatton not being willing to fight Mayweather at 147/154 is completely unfounded and is anti-Hatton propaganda. I'd go as far as to guess it came from the same source that claimed Hatton agreed to a Collazo rematch, and has turned down a fight with Mayweather countless times.
Thanks for the info. Has hatton stated he would move to 147 to fight pbf?
No
He has, about a million times. Quotes are coming up in a minute my friend.
As long as it is from a respectable source I will hold my hands up mate.
Re: Oscar to fight Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
I entirely disagree that it doesn't prove anything. Forget that Oscar faught Mayweather, then what does it prove, or factor it in, it puts Hatton on par with Mayweather at the present if he wins. If Oscar wins, it means he's still a force to be reckoned with. Plus it makes money, now when has making money proved nothing?
i agree with u. My question is why will Hatton move up in weight to fight de la hoya but not go up to fight PBF?
The rumour of Hatton not being willing to fight Mayweather at 147/154 is completely unfounded and is anti-Hatton propaganda. I'd go as far as to guess it came from the same source that claimed Hatton agreed to a Collazo rematch, and has turned down a fight with Mayweather countless times.
Thanks for the info. Has hatton stated he would move to 147 to fight pbf?
No
He has, about a million times. Quotes are coming up in a minute my friend.
As long as it is from a respectable source I will hold my hands up mate.
This is from a quote from the boxingtalk archive in Members page interview with Darren Nichols on June 25 2007. The URL is http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article12639.html I don't know if it will work for non-members.
I'm not allowed to post the full article but here's the question.
BoxingTalk: If you were to fight Mayweather, what weight would you fight at?
Ricky Hatton: I think my limit would be 147. I mean, I’m a natural 140 fighter. If I got to 147 that’s a number for me, because I’m a junior welterweight, but the pain would be worth the gain, so maybe we’d fight at a catch weight.
Re: Oscar to fight Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by Steelie
It could have shades of DLH Gatti about it in terms of the difference in size.
Thre maybe the slimmest of chances if Oscar is practically a bag of bones at 147...but I'm grasping...
Either way (Floyd or Oscar), Hatton's gonna look a lot like Gatti did when he fought the aforementioned and reknownedly vain egotists. I cant see Hatton headed for anything but a beat down either way. But then again either way it would be entertaining cuz Ricky comes to fight for sure! Plus he'd last longer than Gatti did I think. Personally I hope he does fight DLH and Mosley fights Mayweather. That'd be a couple of tight fights.
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Then again, Oscar doesn't like a bodyshot does he...
Re: Oscar to fight Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by diamonddavestafford
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Originally Posted by Steelie
It could have shades of DLH Gatti about it in terms of the difference in size.
Thre maybe the slimmest of chances if Oscar is practically a bag of bones at 147...but I'm grasping...
Either way (Floyd or Oscar), Hatton's gonna look a lot like Gatti did when he fought the aforementioned and reknownedly vain egotists. I cant see Hatton headed for anything but a beat down either way. But then again either way it would be entertaining cuz Ricky comes to fight for sure! Plus he'd last longer than Gatti did I think. Personally I hope he does fight DLH and Mosley fights Mayweather. That'd be a couple of tight fights.
i dont undersatnd the constant gatti/Hatton comparisons??? Gatti doesnt have the same foot movement as Hatton , Hatton creates angles to throw bodyshots form all angles, please go watch the two fight there is hardly any similarity, Gatti likes to throw punches and hooks square on, Hatton likes to get under your nose and shift to his left and right.
Re: Oscar to fight Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by diamonddavestafford
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Originally Posted by Steelie
It could have shades of DLH Gatti about it in terms of the difference in size.
Thre maybe the slimmest of chances if Oscar is practically a bag of bones at 147...but I'm grasping...
Either way (Floyd or Oscar), Hatton's gonna look a lot like Gatti did when he fought the aforementioned and reknownedly vain egotists. I cant see Hatton headed for anything but a beat down either way. But then again either way it would be entertaining cuz Ricky comes to fight for sure! Plus he'd last longer than Gatti did I think. Personally I hope he does fight DLH and Mosley fights Mayweather. That'd be a couple of tight fights.
I agree with this whole post.
It amazes me how some on the foum were just calling for ODH's retirement because in their opinion he is not an elite fighter. Some of the same posters were singing Hatton praises for being one of the top p4p fighters in the world. This fight comes up & all some people (including some of the aforementioned) want to talk about is how ODH is way too big, etc... Hatton actually was the bigger man to start their carreers (Hatton JWW 149lbs---ODH a small LW 133lbs).
Nobody talked about the weight when ODH wentr way north in weight to challenge B-HOP @ MW, Winky all the way to 170lbs, or RJJ to HW. And I could go all day, that's just a few cases. Here we have 2 guys that are very similar in natural fighting weight & that's all people are talkin about is "Oscar is so much bigger".
This is hillarious IMO. For the record, I think that Hatton is a damn good fighter. But it's almost like some people are lining up an excuse for Hatton already for if/when he gets drummed.
ODH is scrutinized as much as anyone that's out there. He' a natural LW that gets stopped 1x in his career to all time MW B-Hop & everyone talks about how he don't like it/can take it to the body. He loses a SD to the consensus p4p king & people say that he's slipping. etc...etc... The scrutiny of ODH is to the point of downright foolish.
As for as the PBF fight if Hatton has his choice (PBF or ODH). Although the hype of 2 undefeated champions gett'n it on would be good for boxing there are $$$-many-$$$ reasons why I think that ODH would be Ricky's choice. This is a business & I know that I don't blame these guys for goin where the biggest $$$ is.
Just beacause Hatton didn't look strong @ WW vs Collazo doesn't mean that thw "he's just a little guy." "ODH is too big." cards should be played. It should be the same for everyone. It's 7 damn lbs for Hatton to go up against a guy (ODH)that made his debut as the smaller man (7lbs smaller than Hatton).
Let's give the Bugger stuff a rest. If/when this fight is made. ODH will spank him because he hyas the style to & he's the better fighter.--------------------PERIOD!!!!!
And Gatti is not & was not no Hatton!!!!
Re: Oscar to fight Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by silent assassin
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Originally Posted by diamonddavestafford
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Originally Posted by Steelie
It could have shades of DLH Gatti about it in terms of the difference in size.
Thre maybe the slimmest of chances if Oscar is practically a bag of bones at 147...but I'm grasping...
Either way (Floyd or Oscar), Hatton's gonna look a lot like Gatti did when he fought the aforementioned and reknownedly vain egotists. I cant see Hatton headed for anything but a beat down either way. But then again either way it would be entertaining cuz Ricky comes to fight for sure! Plus he'd last longer than Gatti did I think. Personally I hope he does fight DLH and Mosley fights Mayweather. That'd be a couple of tight fights.
I agree with this whole post.
It amazes me how some on the foum were just calling for ODH's retirement because in their opinion he is not an elite fighter. Some of the same posters were singing Hatton praises for being one of the top p4p fighters in the world. This fight comes up & all some people (including some of the aforementioned) want to talk about is how ODH is way too big, etc... Hatton actually was the bigger man to start their carreers (Hatton JWW 149lbs---ODH a small LW 133lbs).
Nobody talked about the weight when ODH wentr way north in weight to challenge B-HOP @ MW, Winky all the way to 170lbs, or RJJ to HW. And I could go all day, that's just a few cases. Here we have 2 guys that are very similar in natural fighting weight & that's all people are talkin about is "Oscar is so much bigger".
This is hillarious IMO. For the record, I think that Hatton is a damn good fighter. But it's almost like some people are lining up an excuse for Hatton already for if/when he gets drummed.
ODH is scrutinized as much as anyone that's out there. He' a natural LW that gets stopped 1x in his career to all time MW B-Hop & everyone talks about how he don't like it/can take it to the body. He loses a SD to the consensus p4p king & people say that he's slipping. etc...etc... The scrutiny of ODH is to the point of downright foolish.
As for as the PBF fight if Hatton has his choice (PBF or ODH). Although the hype of 2 undefeated champions gett'n it on would be good for boxing there are $$$-many-$$$ reasons why I think that ODH would be Ricky's choice. This is a business & I know that I don't blame these guys for goin where the biggest $$$ is.
Just beacause Hatton didn't look strong @ WW vs Collazo doesn't mean that thw "he's just a little guy." "ODH is too big." cards should be played. It should be the same for everyone. It's 7 damn lbs for Hatton to go up against a guy (ODH)that made his debut as the smaller man (7lbs smaller than Hatton).
Let's give the Bugger stuff a rest. If/when this fight is made. ODH will spank him because he hyas the style to & he's the better fighter.--------------------PERIOD!!!!!
And Gatti is not & was not no Hatton!!!!
What you talking about? When was the last time Dela Hoya fought at 140lbs?? He is the bigger man period, he has moved up the weights because he has always had the credentials to do so, do you think Dela Hoya would make 140 now?? Would he balls, he is the bigger man the guy has been taking shots from men who now operate at 175 lbs??? It's not an excuse its a fact Dela Hoya is the much bigger man. Im not making excuses or no one else is there facing the facts the only reason to take this fight is the money, Dela Hoya has got a style which would be bad full stop imo, but the fact like i said is he is the bigger man.
Re: Oscar to fight Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
I entirely disagree that it doesn't prove anything. Forget that Oscar faught Mayweather, then what does it prove, or factor it in, it puts Hatton on par with Mayweather at the present if he wins. If Oscar wins, it means he's still a force to be reckoned with. Plus it makes money, now when has making money proved nothing?
i agree with u. My question is why will Hatton move up in weight to fight de la hoya but not go up to fight PBF?
The rumour of Hatton not being willing to fight Mayweather at 147/154 is completely unfounded and is anti-Hatton propaganda. I'd go as far as to guess it came from the same source that claimed Hatton agreed to a Collazo rematch, and has turned down a fight with Mayweather countless times.
Thanks for the info. Has hatton stated he would move to 147 to fight pbf?
No
He has, about a million times. Quotes are coming up in a minute my friend.
As long as it is from a respectable source I will hold my hands up mate.
This is from a quote from the boxingtalk archive in Members page interview with Darren Nichols on June 25 2007. The URL is
http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article12639.html I don't know if it will work for non-members.
I'm not allowed to post the full article but here's the question.
BoxingTalk: If you were to fight Mayweather, what weight would you fight at?
Ricky Hatton:
I think my limit would be 147. I mean, I’m a natural 140 fighter. If I got to 147 that’s a number for me, because I’m a junior welterweight, but the pain would be worth the gain, so
maybe we’d fight at a catch weight.
That don't say "I will move up to 147 to fight Floyd if i have to" though mate.
Re: Oscar to fight Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
I entirely disagree that it doesn't prove anything. Forget that Oscar faught Mayweather, then what does it prove, or factor it in, it puts Hatton on par with Mayweather at the present if he wins. If Oscar wins, it means he's still a force to be reckoned with. Plus it makes money, now when has making money proved nothing?
i agree with u. My question is why will Hatton move up in weight to fight de la hoya but not go up to fight PBF?
The rumour of Hatton not being willing to fight Mayweather at 147/154 is completely unfounded and is anti-Hatton propaganda. I'd go as far as to guess it came from the same source that claimed Hatton agreed to a Collazo rematch, and has turned down a fight with Mayweather countless times.
Thanks for the info. Has hatton stated he would move to 147 to fight pbf?
No
He has, about a million times. Quotes are coming up in a minute my friend.
As long as it is from a respectable source I will hold my hands up mate.
This is from a quote from the boxingtalk archive in Members page interview with Darren Nichols on June 25 2007. The URL is
http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article12639.html I don't know if it will work for non-members.
I'm not allowed to post the full article but here's the question.
BoxingTalk: If you were to fight Mayweather, what weight would you fight at?
Ricky Hatton:
I think my limit would be 147. I mean, I’m a natural 140 fighter. If I got to 147 that’s a number for me, because I’m a junior welterweight, but the pain would be worth the gain, so
maybe we’d fight at a catch weight.
That don't say "I will move up to 147 to fight Floyd if i have to" though mate.
Hatton would move up to 147lb to fight floyd. He has said it a few times in interviews (ill have alook for them) and he has told me personnally on a number of occasions. Trust me, he will fight at 147lb against floyd.
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Originally Posted by skel1983
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Originally Posted by diamonddavestafford
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Originally Posted by Steelie
It could have shades of DLH Gatti about it in terms of the difference in size.
Thre maybe the slimmest of chances if Oscar is practically a bag of bones at 147...but I'm grasping...
Either way (Floyd or Oscar), Hatton's gonna look a lot like Gatti did when he fought the aforementioned and reknownedly vain egotists. I cant see Hatton headed for anything but a beat down either way. But then again either way it would be entertaining cuz Ricky comes to fight for sure! Plus he'd last longer than Gatti did I think. Personally I hope he does fight DLH and Mosley fights Mayweather. That'd be a couple of tight fights.
i dont undersatnd the constant gatti/Hatton comparisons??? Gatti doesnt have the same foot movement as Hatton , Hatton creates angles to throw bodyshots form all angles, please go watch the two fight there is hardly any similarity, Gatti likes to throw punches and hooks square on, Hatton likes to get under your nose and shift to his left and right.
Yeah, but the haters say they're the same. How can they be wrong? ::**They use valid arguments to back up their claims. Collazo did clearly beat Hatton. Hatton has only fought chumps and those who were far past there best. He's a waster, a bum, a hugger, a cheat and he's just a little fatty who's proven nothing. ::**
Did I miss anything out?
Re: Oscar to fight Ricky Hatton
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
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Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)
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Originally Posted by 'Big' Dan McCarthy
I entirely disagree that it doesn't prove anything. Forget that Oscar faught Mayweather, then what does it prove, or factor it in, it puts Hatton on par with Mayweather at the present if he wins. If Oscar wins, it means he's still a force to be reckoned with. Plus it makes money, now when has making money proved nothing?
i agree with u. My question is why will Hatton move up in weight to fight de la hoya but not go up to fight PBF?
The rumour of Hatton not being willing to fight Mayweather at 147/154 is completely unfounded and is anti-Hatton propaganda. I'd go as far as to guess it came from the same source that claimed Hatton agreed to a Collazo rematch, and has turned down a fight with Mayweather countless times.
Thanks for the info. Has hatton stated he would move to 147 to fight pbf?
No
He has, about a million times. Quotes are coming up in a minute my friend.
As long as it is from a respectable source I will hold my hands up mate.
This is from a quote from the boxingtalk archive in Members page interview with Darren Nichols on June 25 2007. The URL is
http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article12639.html I don't know if it will work for non-members.
I'm not allowed to post the full article but here's the question.
BoxingTalk: If you were to fight Mayweather, what weight would you fight at?
Ricky Hatton:
I think my limit would be 147. I mean, I’m a natural 140 fighter. If I got to 147 that’s a number for me, because I’m a junior welterweight, but the pain would be worth the gain, so
maybe we’d fight at a catch weight.
That don't say "I will move up to 147 to fight Floyd if i have to" though mate.
You're totally right, he must be running scared! Little shit. He never backs up his words ::**
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bzkfn, what are you talking about? I don't want to quote all that you see as it takes up too much space.
