Re: BULLSHIT DECISION!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by the wiz
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
I mean Morales wasn't himself but that was a bullshit decision! Morales clearly won the fight!!! >:mad >:mad >:mad
:coolclick: #71. I had it 115-112 Morales but I was trying to be generous in the even rounds. I would have had it wider. I turned off my TV in disgust at what I felt was a bollocks call by the judges. I'm still pissed off now.
I watched the replay last night and like you 115-112 for Morales and I was scoring the close ones for Diaz. The judge that had it 114-113 for Diaz should be stripped of any license to judge a fight. How he scored it 10-8 in the 2nd for Diaz and 10-9 in the 1st for Morales is beyone me. Since when don't you get credit for a knockdown!!!???
Maybe if your Erik or Marco :o
Re: BULLSHIT DECISION!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by chip
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Originally Posted by the wiz
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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I mean Morales wasn't himself but that was a bullshit decision! Morales clearly won the fight!!! >:mad >:mad >:mad
:coolclick: #71. I had it 115-112 Morales but I was trying to be generous in the even rounds. I would have had it wider. I turned off my TV in disgust at what I felt was a bollocks call by the judges. I'm still pissed off now.
I watched the replay last night and like you 115-112 for Morales and I was scoring the close ones for Diaz. The judge that had it 114-113 for Diaz should be stripped of any license to judge a fight. How he scored it 10-8 in the 2nd for Diaz and 10-9 in the 1st for Morales is beyone me. Since when don't you get credit for a knockdown!!!???
Maybe if your Erik or Marco :o
The point about the knockdown was explained by the commentators...at least the ones on Setanta anyway. The pundit also scored it a 10-9 round to Morales because he thought Diaz had been dominating that round, and it would have been a 10-9 Diaz without the knockdown, so its still a 2-point swing to Morales.
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sorry but that's bull, in boxing you if there's only one kd in the round, the one that scores the knockdown wins the round 10-8, could have been losing the round and catches a lucky punch to get the kd but yea he still gets the round 10-8, and imo Diaz was in no way dominating the first round, he caught Morales with a couple clean shots but wasn't dominating, this is by far the worst scored fight of the year
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
sorry but that's bull, in boxing you if there's only one kd in the round, the one that scores the knockdown wins the round 10-8, could have been losing the round and catches a lucky punch to get the kd but yea he still gets the round 10-8, and imo Diaz was in no way dominating the first round, he caught Morales with a couple clean shots but wasn't dominating, this is by far the worst scored fight of the year
It might well be bull, but if the judges have the discretion to score a 10-8 round even if there isn't a knockdown, then surely they have the discretion to alter the standard 10-8 score, which i agree is normally the score given for a knockdown round.
And in all honesty, can you truly say that it's fair that if a fighter is dominating a round, and could be heading himself for a 10-8 round, then suffers a flash knockdown, and not only loses two points, but his opposition gets two points too? A four-point swing, which could ultimately have come because of a lucky punch.
Personally, I prefer giving judges the discretion to the judges to alter the scores, even with a round including a knockdown.
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....the circumstances made this way worse, to end a great fighters career like this was very dissappointing.
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Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
Fwockin-A Erik won that fight. He won that fight more than he won against Manny Pacquiao I.
I've witnessed a slow Morales but the stamina didn't bother him that much. Heck, he showed to everybody that he still have the punching power when he scored a knockdown... you can see it in Diaz's face.
That fight reminded me of De leon-Penalosa fight. It was hometown cooking and 100% pure robbery! All 3 judges went for Diaz?.. what a crock!
If David Diaz is rated by WBC as no.3, difinitely that shows that Pac can punch like a lightweight.
Pac has nothing to do with this post idiot. Wait your talking out of your a** again....... oh I know it's cuz Pac made you do it! You entire loser life / world evolves around Pac.
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to certain point Pacquiao doesn't have anything to do with this thread, cause we're talking about the bullshit decision, so yea, but IMO Diaz wasn't dominating the first round, he was winning it but wasn't dominating, also i don't understand how the fuck round 2 could be scored 10-8 for Diaz? That round was closer than the first and i had Diaz win the round but 10-9 not 10-8, c'mon there is no fucking justification for this BULLSHIT SCORING, i mean the decision should be challenged, and if they don't take action then that shows how bad boxing politics really is today
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I don't have a problem with a judge scoring a round with a knockdown 10-9 if the other guy was clearly winning the round. Its definitely not illegal, its just not done all that often, in fact it should probably be done more often IMO, especially if the other guy is dominating which Diaz pretty much was, or at least was clearly winning the round hands down, and even more so if its a flash KD, although that wasn't really a flash knockdown. Have no idea how round 2 was 10-8.
I did think Morales should have gotten the decision but it was too close to be called a true robbery IMO, just a bad decision.
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I don't have a problem with a judge scoring a round with a knockdown 10-9 if the other guy was clearly winning the round. Its definitely not illegal, its just not done all that often, in fact it should probably be done more often IMO, especially if the other guy is dominating which Diaz pretty much was, or at least was clearly winning the round hands down, and even more so if its a flash KD, although that wasn't really a flash knockdown. Have no idea how round 2 was 10-8.
I did think Morales should have gotten the decision but it was too close to be called a true robbery IMO, just a bad decision.
Finally, another voice of reason in this debate. To be going crazy over such a close decision that could have gone either way is just going over the top in my opinion.
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I've read a little on the round 2 scoring of 10-8 by one judge. If you remember towards the beginning of the round Morales tripped over Diaz's leg. Evidently this judge, who should be banned, thought that was a knockdown and scored it 10-8 for Diaz. Now if this is the case it just goes to ask, was this clown paying attention at all during the fight????
And to all those who thinks it's ok for the first round to be 10-9 instead of 10-8, Diaz was winning, noway dominating the first. You have to give Morales, and any other fighter, credit for knocking a guy down. I could see if Diaz dominated for 2:50 then a flash knockdown. Diaz was winning, but Morales landed a quality shot a put him down. 10-8!!!!
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I don't have a problem with a judge scoring a round with a knockdown 10-9 if the other guy was clearly winning the round. Its definitely not illegal, its just not done all that often, in fact it should probably be done more often IMO, especially if the other guy is dominating which Diaz pretty much was, or at least was clearly winning the round hands down, and even more so if its a flash KD, although that wasn't really a flash knockdown. Have no idea how round 2 was 10-8.
I did think Morales should have gotten the decision but it was too close to be called a true robbery IMO, just a bad decision.
Finally, another voice of reason in this debate. To be going crazy over such a close decision that could have gone either way is just going over the top in my opinion.
I don't think it was close though. While I had 3 points in it, if you read every opinion is this thread, not one person has said they felt Diaz deserved the win, yet 3 judges believed he did. When I heard the words "unanimous decision", I was so sure Morales had it in the bag. Like Mar said, to end a guy's career on a loss that for most he clearly won is just plain wrong.
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
I don't have a problem with a judge scoring a round with a knockdown 10-9 if the other guy was clearly winning the round. Its definitely not illegal, its just not done all that often, in fact it should probably be done more often IMO, especially if the other guy is dominating which Diaz pretty much was, or at least was clearly winning the round hands down, and even more so if its a flash KD, although that wasn't really a flash knockdown. Have no idea how round 2 was 10-8.
I did think Morales should have gotten the decision but it was too close to be called a true robbery IMO, just a bad decision.
Finally, another voice of reason in this debate. To be going crazy over such a close decision that could have gone either way is just going over the top in my opinion.
I don't think it was close though. While I had 3 points in it, if you read every opinion is this thread, not one person has said they felt Diaz deserved the win, yet 3 judges believed he did. When I heard the words "unanimous decision", I was so sure Morales had it in the bag. Like Mar said, to end a guy's career on a loss that for most he clearly won is just plain wrong.
The reason that for most people that he won, is that Morales has picked up a lot of fans during his career, and justifiably so, so I think that many, many people were edging the fight towards him because of that. His style of fighting is going to let him get into close fights, and against a come forward fighter like Diaz in his hometown is going to leave it tough for the judges. I was pretty lazy over the course of the fight in scoring, and I agree with the judge who scored the first 10-9, but I'd happily call the fight a tie. What I'm saying is that the group of people here, albeit all knowledgable posters, might not be representative of the boxing fans of the world as a whole.
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
Fwockin-A Erik won that fight. He won that fight more than he won against Manny Pacquiao I.
I've witnessed a slow Morales but the stamina didn't bother him that much. Heck, he showed to everybody that he still have the punching power when he scored a knockdown... you can see it in Diaz's face.
That fight reminded me of De leon-Penalosa fight. It was hometown cooking and 100% pure robbery! All 3 judges went for Diaz?.. what a crock!
If David Diaz is rated by WBC as no.3, difinitely that shows that Pac can punch like a lightweight.
Pac has nothing to do with this post idiot. Wait your talking out of your a** again....... oh I know it's because Pac made you do it! Your entire loser life / world evolves around Pac.
Relax or STFU Mr. Internet Stud. Of course Pac has somethin to do with this thread. Pac has something to do with Morales' boxing career. Do you have any idea how many times they aired quick footages of Erik fighting Pac before the fight last night? They've even mentioned his name multiple times too during the fight.
Guess who's the idiot/loser now?
You are a true loser ! If what you are saying is true then every fighter that Morales has fought warrants a footnote on this thread ( because they are part of his legacy). This is page 3 of the thread and there is only 1 post that mentions Pac by ElTerribleMorales. So the masses do not think that Pac has to be included in this thread. ElTerribleMorales just gave you a tidbit reason to include Pac's name. and your PacWhoreness jumped in on the opportunity. Just because Showtime decides to show Pac-Morales clips does not mean we are on the Showtime boxing forum. Sure they showed clips it all in the ratings game.
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I duno why the Morales fans are crying about him only winning the round 10-9 cuz when Barrera floored Marquez , he lost the round 10-8 !!!!!!
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morales didn't punch diaz when he was on the ground did he? and yea Marquez was dominating the round, not like diaz was "dominating" either, IMO it was his best round until the knockdown, but yea barrera clearly punched him while he was already down and was lucky he didn't get dq'd right there
