Re: Ricky Hatton unheard comments about Mayweather ....
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Thats the spirit Ricky!
Ive gota say some of you people make floyd mayweather out to be this man who just cant lose, at the end of the day hes just a human! although he might be better than most i can still see him being stopped by ricky.
No one has said anything close to that its just Mayweather has fought swarmers before and it didn't work Hatton doesn't carry the power at 147 he wasn't able to bully Collazo or move him with his punches Hatton was the one rocking not Collazo and Mayweather is quicker than Collazo has better punching technique and hits harder and much better defence if Hatton can do it good for him but honestly don't think he will i think a fighter like Mosley who is just as fast as Mayweather has very good chance or a very tall fighter with good boxing skills and non stop punching has very chance also against mayweather aka Williams.
ICB Hatton underestimated luiz a lot and he therefore didnt try as best. In hattons mind right now if u were told to move up to fight collozo u would think hes some bum that nobody has heard of but that was far from the case. In floyd ricky knows this is the biggest fight of his life therefore he wont take any risks and train like no other. I just feel ricky will have his fight on that night and work Floyd into a difficult fight. It will be tough for both men and the person whos going to win will have to show greater heart IMO. you tell me who floyd who has floyd beaten who is better than ricky ? ( im going to bed soon so be quick in your reply ;D )
Ricky wasn't quite at his best but he still wasn't able to bully or move Collazo at welterweight Hatton was the one getting rocked.
you tell me who floyd who has floyd beaten who is better than ricky ?
Well no one at the moment but there are similar boxers to Hatton that Mayweather has fought Chavez, Castillo,
Chavez fought like a man possessed throwing over 100 punches in most rounds he short in heigh like Hatton and tried swarming tactic like Hatton but Mayweather was able to make him miss alot and sit down on his punches and really hurt Chavez i think Hatton will be suprised by Mayweather's power he thinks he will able to walkthrough his shots but Mayweather has the kind of power to make you respect him and Hatton is going to get busted up imo.
Difference is Mayweather has fought similar fighters to Hatton he knows what to expect Hatton has never fought slick defensive skilled fighter like Mayweather.
Re: Ricky Hatton unheard comments about Mayweather ....
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Thats the spirit Ricky!
Ive gota say some of you people make floyd mayweather out to be this man who just cant lose, at the end of the day hes just a human! although he might be better than most i can still see him being stopped by ricky.
No one has said anything close to that its just Mayweather has fought swarmers before and it didn't work Hatton doesn't carry the power at 147 he wasn't able to bully Collazo or move him with his punches Hatton was the one rocking not Collazo and Mayweather is quicker than Collazo has better punching technique and hits harder and much better defence if Hatton can do it good for him but honestly don't think he will i think a fighter like Mosley who is just as fast as Mayweather has very good chance or a very tall fighter with good boxing skills and non stop punching has very chance also against mayweather aka Williams.
ICB Hatton underestimated luiz a lot and he therefore didnt try as best. In hattons mind right now if u were told to move up to fight collozo u would think hes some bum that nobody has heard of but that was far from the case. In floyd ricky knows this is the biggest fight of his life therefore he wont take any risks and train like no other. I just feel ricky will have his fight on that night and work Floyd into a difficult fight. It will be tough for both men and the person whos going to win will have to show greater heart IMO. you tell me who floyd who has floyd beaten who is better than ricky ? ( im going to bed soon so be quick in your reply ;D )
Ricky wasn't quite at his best but he still wasn't able to bully or move Collazo at welterweight Hatton was the one getting rocked.
you tell me who floyd who has floyd beaten who is better than ricky ?
Well no one at the moment but there are similar boxers to Hatton that Mayweather has fought Chavez, Castillo,
Chavez fought like a man possessed throwing over 100 punches in most rounds he short in heigh like Hatton and tried swarming tactic like Hatton but Mayweather was able to make him miss alot and sit down on his punches and really hurt Chavez i think Hatton will be suprised by Mayweather's power he thinks he will able to walkthrough his shots but Mayweather has the kind of power to make you respect him and Hatton is going to get busted up imo.
Difference is Mayweather has fought similar fighters to Hatton he knows what to expect Hatton has never fought slick defensive skilled fighter like Mayweather.
If there is one thing I will give the mayweather fans it is that floyd does have power. His mo in every fight is to sit down on punches early while the opponent is still "feeling him out". The hard punches he throws in the beginning of a fight make the opponent think twice about his power, gives them a reason to become more cautious and less likely to attack. Ultimately this leads to him running around pot shotting the rest of the fight. THIS is what needs to be exploited by Hatton if his chin can handle it.
Please don't tell anyone I gave props to mayweather, it may tarnish my image. :)
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This fight has had enough hype for me...
Just want to see the fight.
Re: Ricky Hatton unheard comments about Mayweather ....
You must have been ripping your hair out in the build up to 'Floyd - De La Hoya' then mate ;D
Re: Ricky Hatton unheard comments about Mayweather ....
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You must have been ripping your hair out in the build up to 'Floyd - De La Hoya' then mate ;D
Cmon man, I only found out about it a week beforehand, and only then cause I was reading the OSQ - Obscure Sports Quarterly.
Re: Ricky Hatton unheard comments about Mayweather ....
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by katfight
since ivan drago ist a real F****** boxer does it matter????????
its called humour
and are u referin to me wen u say simple fan ?????
Kat i hope you just didnt call me tom :-X
oh shit i did im so sorry :-\
here a cc to make up 4 it
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Originally Posted by katfight
since ivan drago ist a real F****** boxer does it matter????????
its called humour
and are u referin to me wen u say simple fan ?????
Don't worry kat, I've heard him make the "simple fan" comment to me before too but I think he used far more colorful language. He believes that if you don't turn your head when someone gets a bloody nose then you must be in to the blood and guts and therefore couldn't possibly be a REAL fan of boxing. To save you the time Frozen, I'll share with her the same advise you gave me, maybe you need to watch the UFC instead. ::**
haha yea if u dont think PBF is by far the best fighter the world has eva seen
and if u dont think he is going to destroy Hatton the fuck off and watch ufc ::**
u no loyalty to Hatton aside the talk is gettin so stupid i hope Hatton knocks him on his fucking arse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Re: Ricky Hatton unheard comments about Mayweather ....
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Originally Posted by katfight
u no loyalty to Hatton aside the talk is gettin so stupid
Well you kind of expect some banter from a forum, especially with such a high profile fight like this one where the emotions are flying high and there will be a lot of dissapointed fans come the night of December 8th and thats regardless of who wins  ;)
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i hope Hatton knocks him on his F****** a***!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well you can hope in one hand and shiit in the other and see which one fills up first  ;D
Re: Ricky Hatton unheard comments about Mayweather ....
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Thats the spirit Ricky!
Ive gota say some of you people make floyd mayweather out to be this man who just cant lose, at the end of the day hes just a human! although he might be better than most i can still see him being stopped by ricky.
No one has said anything close to that its just Mayweather has fought swarmers before and it didn't work Hatton doesn't carry the power at 147 he wasn't able to bully Collazo or move him with his punches Hatton was the one rocking not Collazo and Mayweather is quicker than Collazo has better punching technique and hits harder and much better defence if Hatton can do it good for him but honestly don't think he will i think a fighter like Mosley who is just as fast as Mayweather has very good chance or a very tall fighter with good boxing skills and non stop punching has very chance also against mayweather aka Williams.
ICB Hatton underestimated luiz a lot and he therefore didnt try as best. In hattons mind right now if u were told to move up to fight collozo u would think hes some bum that nobody has heard of but that was far from the case. In floyd ricky knows this is the biggest fight of his life therefore he wont take any risks and train like no other. I just feel ricky will have his fight on that night and work Floyd into a difficult fight. It will be tough for both men and the person whos going to win will have to show greater heart IMO. you tell me who floyd who has floyd beaten who is better than ricky ? ( im going to bed soon so be quick in your reply ;D )
Ricky wasn't quite at his best but he still wasn't able to bully or move Collazo at welterweight Hatton was the one getting rocked.
you tell me who floyd who has floyd beaten who is better than ricky ?
Well no one at the moment but there are similar boxers to Hatton that Mayweather has fought Chavez, Castillo,
Chavez fought like a man possessed throwing over 100 punches in most rounds he short in heigh like Hatton and tried swarming tactic like Hatton but Mayweather was able to make him miss alot and sit down on his punches and really hurt Chavez i think Hatton will be suprised by Mayweather's power he thinks he will able to walkthrough his shots but Mayweather has the kind of power to make you respect him and Hatton is going to get busted up imo.
Difference is Mayweather has fought similar fighters to Hatton he knows what to expect Hatton has never fought slick defensive skilled fighter like Mayweather.
My opinion on the Luiz fight was that :1) Hatton thought he was going to knock him out early because of the first round knockdown. This wasnt the case at all because we know Luiz has a good chin. 2) He had never fought at 147 and he wasnt fully prepared for the fight. 3) He thought that Luiz would be a complete walkover... this wasnt the case, Shane Mosley knew this and fully prepared for it and fought a good fight and won convincingly. 4) Luiz is a natural welterweight therefore Ricky doesnt have any advatages on that front and he was a southpaw and we know Ricky struggles with them. 5) It just wasnt Rickys night, it can happen you will get a bad night occasionally and with all the other disadvantages i have stated this was bound to be a tough fight for ricky. But dont forget ICB at the end of the day it was a success because he won the fight and became a two time world champion right?
The difference for this floyd one is 1) Ricky knows for a fact that he is the best p4p fighter and therefore will be training his fucking ass off the most he has ever done for a fight because he knows it will be his hardest one so far. 2) Floyd unlike Luiz isnt a natural welterweight therefore Ricky will be able to put floyd on the back foot a lot more that him because he doesnt have any natural weight advantages etc. 3) The fact that these two men hate each other will surely pump Ricky and floyd to fight thier best. For the Luiz fight this wasnt the case what so ever. We have waited for Floyd-ricky for years and it will finally come. 4) This is Rickys chance to finally shut peoples mouths, ie with the weight issue, about him not fighting the best he can fight and proving to us that he is the best in the world. This fight will not only be Rickys hardest fight, but its a fight for pride as well. He knows that if he loses he loses his undefeated record and he will always feel i could have done that much better.
Ill be honest and say yes i think floyd is an amazing fighter and will be by far his hardest fight to date. But at the end of the day floyds a man and he can be beaten! Although hes better than everyone else there must be something that he cant handle and i think it will be hattons body attack. If Hatton can slow him down i dont think floyd can run for 12 rounds if this is what he plans to do. Because Ricky Hatton is not shit, hes an undeafted world champion and he will catch Floyd. Ricky knows that floyds defence is amazing, but at the end of the day there is only so much he can do without being caught. I can tell you this if Ricky catches floyd with a body shot like he did against Castillo he will go down! That was a perfect shot and it's possible he could end the fight like he did against Castillo.
im thinking if Hatton can fight like he did that night with Castillo and land a body shot assults he can stop him. If not im thinking a Floyd hard fought UD.
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you talk with sense Tam. CC from me. O0
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you talk with sense Tam. CC from me. O0
CC back bro. Im backing Hatton to the end for this fight!
Re: Ricky Hatton unheard comments about Mayweather ....
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Originally Posted by katfight
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by katfight
since ivan drago ist a real F****** boxer does it matter????????
its called humour
and are u referin to me wen u say simple fan ?????
Kat i hope you just didnt call me tom :-X
oh S*** i did im so sorry :-\
here a cc to make up 4 it
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Originally Posted by slk123
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Originally Posted by katfight
since ivan drago ist a real F****** boxer does it matter????????
its called humour
and are u referin to me wen u say simple fan ?????
Don't worry kat, I've heard him make the "simple fan" comment to me before too but I think he used far more colorful language. He believes that if you don't turn your head when someone gets a bloody nose then you must be in to the blood and guts and therefore couldn't possibly be a REAL fan of boxing. To save you the time Frozen, I'll share with her the same advise you gave me, maybe you need to watch the UFC instead. ::**
haha yea if u dont think PBF is by far the best fighter the world has eva seen
and if u dont think he is going to destroy Hatton the F*** off and watch ufc ::**
u no loyalty to Hatton aside the talk is gettin so stupid i hope Hatton knocks him on his F****** a***!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Ill let you off this time ;D CC back.
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Mayweather is favorite, but he wont make Hatton look silly. No way.
Hatton is neither Baldomir nor Gatti.
Mayweather isn't Kostya Tszyu either.
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Mayweather is favorite, but he wont make Hatton look silly. No way.
Hatton is neither Baldomir nor Gatti.
Mayweather isn't Kostya Tszyu either.
Exactly.........
I don't think that Mayweather would have been knocked out by Vince Phillips either (like the unbeatable Tszyu was)
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by miles
Mayweather is favorite, but he wont make Hatton look silly. No way.
Hatton is neither Baldomir nor Gatti.
Mayweather isn't Kostya Tszyu either.
Exactly.........
I don't think that Mayweather would have been knocked out by Vince Phillips either (like the unbeatable Tszyu was)
Styles make fights. Tszyu didn't fare as well against pressure fighters who crowded him and didn't allow him to get that full extension on his devastating and accurate punches. Floyd's style on the other hand compliments Tszyu's very well. Not saying Tszyu would have definitely won...but if these two fought at their primes....it would have been by FAR Floyd's greatest challenge. Too bad it never happened. Anyways, back to the original subject. I like Hatton's personality, though not a big fan of his fighting style. But i really have to question his conditioning and stamina in a fight that will require him to chase a much faster man for potentially 12 rounds. Sure, Ricky will train like crazy...but he always seems like he balloons up and down way too much between fights. We all know Mayweather will come into this fight in great shape...and he didn't have to kill himself to be in that shape. Aside from the conditioning issue...there is the obvious skill and speed issue. Floyd has more of both by quite a lot. I would also think Floyd will have a slight advantage in strength as well. So the final question mark will be if Ricky's pressure style will cause Floyd fits. It might...but i think it's much more likely that Floyd will win by UD.
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Thats the spirit Ricky!
Ive gota say some of you people make floyd mayweather out to be this man who just cant lose, at the end of the day hes just a human! although he might be better than most i can still see him being stopped by ricky.
No one has said anything close to that its just Mayweather has fought swarmers before and it didn't work Hatton doesn't carry the power at 147 he wasn't able to bully Collazo or move him with his punches Hatton was the one rocking not Collazo and Mayweather is quicker than Collazo has better punching technique and hits harder and much better defence if Hatton can do it good for him but honestly don't think he will i think a fighter like Mosley who is just as fast as Mayweather has very good chance or a very tall fighter with good boxing skills and non stop punching has very chance also against mayweather aka Williams.
ICB Hatton underestimated luiz a lot and he therefore didnt try as best. In hattons mind right now if u were told to move up to fight collozo u would think hes some bum that nobody has heard of but that was far from the case. In floyd ricky knows this is the biggest fight of his life therefore he wont take any risks and train like no other. I just feel ricky will have his fight on that night and work Floyd into a difficult fight. It will be tough for both men and the person whos going to win will have to show greater heart IMO. you tell me who floyd who has floyd beaten who is better than ricky ? ( im going to bed soon so be quick in your reply ;D )
Ricky wasn't quite at his best but he still wasn't able to bully or move Collazo at welterweight Hatton was the one getting rocked.
you tell me who floyd who has floyd beaten who is better than ricky ?
Well no one at the moment but there are similar boxers to Hatton that Mayweather has fought Chavez, Castillo,
Chavez fought like a man possessed throwing over 100 punches in most rounds he short in heigh like Hatton and tried swarming tactic like Hatton but Mayweather was able to make him miss alot and sit down on his punches and really hurt Chavez i think Hatton will be suprised by Mayweather's power he thinks he will able to walkthrough his shots but Mayweather has the kind of power to make you respect him and Hatton is going to get busted up imo.
Difference is Mayweather has fought similar fighters to Hatton he knows what to expect Hatton has never fought slick defensive skilled fighter like Mayweather.
My opinion on the Luiz fight was that :1) Hatton thought he was going to knock him out early because of the first round knockdown. This wasnt the case at all because we know Luiz has a good chin. 2) He had never fought at 147 and he wasnt fully prepared for the fight. 3) He thought that Luiz would be a complete walkover... this wasnt the case, Shane Mosley knew this and fully prepared for it and fought a good fight and won convincingly. 4) Luiz is a natural welterweight therefore Ricky doesnt have any advatages on that front and he was a southpaw and we know Ricky struggles with them. 5) It just wasnt Rickys night, it can happen you will get a bad night occasionally and with all the other disadvantages i have stated this was bound to be a tough fight for ricky. But dont forget ICB at the end of the day it was a success because he won the fight and became a two time world champion right?
The difference for this floyd one is 1) Ricky knows for a fact that he is the best p4p fighter and therefore will be training his F****** a** off the most he has ever done for a fight because he knows it will be his hardest one so far. 2) Floyd unlike Luiz isnt a natural welterweight therefore Ricky will be able to put floyd on the back foot a lot more that him because he doesnt have any natural weight advantages etc. 3) The fact that these two men hate each other will surely pump Ricky and floyd to fight thier best. For the Luiz fight this wasnt the case what so ever. We have waited for Floyd-ricky for years and it will finally come. 4) This is Rickys chance to finally shut peoples mouths, ie with the weight issue, about him not fighting the best he can fight and proving to us that he is the best in the world. This fight will not only be Rickys hardest fight, but its a fight for pride as well. He knows that if he loses he loses his undefeated record and he will always feel i could have done that much better.
Ill be honest and say yes i think floyd is an amazing fighter and will be by far his hardest fight to date. But at the end of the day floyds a man and he can be beaten! Although hes better than everyone else there must be something that he cant handle and i think it will be hattons body attack. If Hatton can slow him down i dont think floyd can run for 12 rounds if this is what he plans to do. Because Ricky Hatton is not S***, hes an undeafted world champion and he will catch Floyd. Ricky knows that floyds defence is amazing, but at the end of the day there is only so much he can do without being caught. I can tell you this if Ricky catches floyd with a body shot like he did against Castillo he will go down! That was a perfect shot and it's possible he could end the fight like he did against Castillo.
im thinking if Hatton can fight like he did that night with Castillo and land a body shot assults he can stop him. If not im thinking a Floyd hard fought UD.
That is the best posting I have yet seen from you.
Very impressive :coolclick:
