Barrera knocked out? in Sparring

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

seriously i think that people are writing him off too quickly, but i don't think that he beat Marquez, wait to fight night before getting ahead of yourself, especially you Pacquiaostraightleft, you swear Manny is invincible and sorry when you're ko'd at 106 lbs. there never is the chance that a lucky punch will put you out, i mean Pacquiao is elite, he's one of the best (Marquez and him are the top 2) in the division, but he's not a god, he can be beat, and already Morales has shown that, he came back from defeat yes, but he can lose again, so stop riding his cock so damn much

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Maybe you're the one who's been obssesing and riding his cock since you brought it up. I never said Manny was invincible, where the f*ck did you get that? I don't know what the hell you've been smoking boy, but I'm sure it's illegal. Stop making up sh*t now. And how come in desperate move to get back @ Pac or his followers.. they always bring up his early KO losses? Dude, know your boxing history. Pac was young skinny teen-ager who never had any amature background. You had to go back @ 106 Pac just to make a fwockin stupid aguement?.. ??? WTF? THAT WAS THEN, THIS IS NOW.

the fact that he was stopped at that lower weight is significant, because both Marquez and Barrera hit a hell of a lot harder than that, and seriously you make Pacquiao out to be this imortal warrior, everytime anyone mentions him, and you say he'll beat anyone easy, also with your bs argument on how he should be p4p #1, when everyone knows he shouldn't

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

the fact that he was stopped at that lower weight is significant, because both Marquez and Barrera hit a hell of a lot harder than that, and seriously you make Pacquiao out to be this imortal warrior, everytime anyone mentions him, and you say he'll beat anyone easy, also with your bs argument on how he should be p4p #1, when everyone knows he shouldn't

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If JMM and MAB hit a lot harder,... then how come they were the ones who smooched the canvas multiple times against Pac? Sh*t man, they couldn't even floor Pac. And don't make this a Pac-PBF issue now. ::**

Marquez sure as hell wobbled the shit out of him in the 6th and that was after he was dropped 3 times in the first, and believe me mentioning the fact that Pacquiao had dropped him 3 times in the opening round doesn't help Manny, because honestly Marquez pretty much dominated him from the 4th round on, so yea

I really doubt this is true first of all, just read the article.

It doesn't cite anything in the Barrera camp and took word from a dinner accross the ocean. Really doubt that's where this scoop would come from.

And if it is, then that is certainly a bit troubling but we will never know and I think it's safe to say that it didn't happen. The article is very sketchy, almost like it was made just for message boards.

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Marquez sure as hell wobbled the S*** out of him in the 6th and that was after he was dropped 3 times in the first, and believe me mentioning the fact that Pacquiao had dropped him 3 times in the opening round doesn't help Manny, because honestly Marquez pretty much dominated him from the 4th round on, so yea

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lmfao!!! :lolhaha:

Wobbled?.. is that all you got? A lot of fighters rocked Pac FYI. But most of them failed to finish him off coz he has BIG HEART and refused to go down.

and the fact that he was dominated for more than half the fight after putting down Marquez 3 times in the opening round, does what to help Manny?

If I'm Barerra I want a rumor like this getting out(especially if it isnt true)

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

and the fact that he was dominated for more than half the fight after putting down Marquez 3 times in the opening round, does what to help Manny?

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...Oops! sorry. Are you still talking? ::**

In case you didn't know, Burt Clemens (one of the judges) acknowledge he had misunderstood a Nevada scoring doctrine that should have mandated him to score the 1st round with its 3 Pacquiao knockdowns to Marquez 10 to 6 for the Pacman. Instead, Clemens scored a 10-7 for that round,.. gave Marquez a critical point he needed to ultimately secure a draw. Manny CLEARLY won that fight.

So you see,... Pac connected more crisp punches, busier, and should've won that fight.

no not really, Marquez was the more effective counter puncher and his striaght right landed more effectively once he was aware of Pacquiao's left, and dude seriously you just pulled some corny immature shit that the kids that i work with don't even say and yea they range from 6 to 12, seriously man up

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

no not really, Marquez was the more effective counter puncher and his striaght right landed more effectively once he was aware of Pacquiao's left, and dude seriously you just pulled some corny immature S*** that the kids that i work with don't even say and yea they range from 6 to 12, seriously man up

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Hehe! Maybe those kids that you're working with are smarter than you. You might wanna ask their advise about this topic. JMM's counter punches were more slap shots. If they were so effective, Pac would've kiss the canvas. Common sense homie. But yeah, I agree with the judges, they saw the fight the way I did... except one of em' dicked up big time on that stupid single error.

slap shots don't snap your opponants head back, and yea then i guess we should be that big on Pacquiao's power seeing how he couldn't get the very much lighter Oscar Larios out of there huh

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

slap shots don't snap your opponants head back, and yea then i guess we should be that big on Pacquiao's power seeing how he couldn't get the very much lighter Oscar Larios out of there huh

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Most of those Pac's head snapping were from natural reflex. JMM's punches were so predictable and Pac saw them coming and he tried to avoid them by dodging backwards. Those kinds of punches obviously didn't impressed the judges. Pac was snapping JMM's head too after the 3 KDs.

Did you even watch the Pac-Larios fight?... Pac was toying Larios ancient gladiators style just to entertain his countrymen. Larios face was all messed up. He kissed the canvas twice. When he was gettin up from those KD's... he looked like a newborn deer, weak legs and sh*t.

No possible way that either JMM or Pac clearly won their fight. Pac wiped the floor early and he may have not been in serious trouble but he lost more rounds then JMM no doubt. Wierd how the 3rd round ended up being the most critical round of the fight when it came to scoring.

I think Manny is a more complete fighter now than he was when he fought JMM and lost to Erik Morales. In those fights he was almost a one armed fighter! That's has a lot to do especially with JMM figuring him out in their fight.

I haven't seen it posted, but seems like many are alluding to this article on HBO's web site. I think this could be the greatest equalizer for MAB.

I'd take the MAB KO rumors with a grain of salt...