Re: Did you enjoy the Manny fight? I didnt,both fighters looked poor....
"He must FULLY train next time. I wish he would stop his wild lifestyle and concentrate more in boxing rather than womanizing, gambling, politics... and STOP making record albums and movies... pleeaaassseee!!!" -Pacstraightleft
Totally agree. I know I'm being harsh on Manny but please,understand,I'm a huge fan of his style.He is P4P one of the most exciting fighters in the world. After all the hype to this fight and all the talk from Pacs camp,you would have thought he would have done better.
KK,your points are legitimate and Manny should learn his lesson and not train back home again but still,all the talk from the Manny camp,about Manny's amazing sparring,him being bang on weight,calling him the best fighter in the world etc etc etc = heightened expectations. It was a poor performance in a fight he should have excelled in.
I just hope he learns his lesson,screws everything,the singing,the movies,politics and training back home and gets back to his best: giving us exciting fights and knocking guys out!
Re: Did you enjoy the Manny fight? I didnt,both fighters looked poor....
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I need to get this off my chest. That was a poor poor fight. 1 round was exciting,5 I think. Manny Pacquiao was very very poor. There is NO WAY I can call him the second best fighter in the world. Absolutely not. His balance was woeful. His combinations were terrible. Where was the right hand? His jab wand head movement were good but overall,he seemed so shy,so reticent.
MAB seemed content to survive. Even his corner told him to pick up the pace at 1 point and told him to do more!The scoring was woeful in the sense that it was way too exagerrated in favour of Manny but I had him winning. Roach was poor in the corner too,he didn't inject any sense of urgency into Manny.
I think the fame,the lifestyle has finally gotten to Manny. Put that version of Manny in with Soto,Guzman,JMM,he loses.Those guys are firing on all cylinders. Heck Valero would have given him hell.
Thank goodness for the war between Yusuf Mack and Librado Andrade on the undercard!!! And the McCline Peter and Santos Rivera fights. Far more exciting.
:coolclick: Totally agree. Manny looked like shit last night...BUT...everyone does have a bad night.
CC back,everyone has a bad night but if you're P4P,you're going to judged a little bit harsher. If you're fighting a guy you KTFO before,again,the criteria ge4ts harsher. If the guy you are fighting just wants to survive,that puches the envelope even further. I hope Manny gets his fire back but maybe he has reached his peak,maybe the fame,the pressure and all the other distractions have gotten to him? We'll find out next fight but if I was JMM/GUZMAN/SOTO,I'd want him now!
they can grow some balls first gamo, and if they are growing them from pacs performance last night then let them. Call it a bad night for pac but he still clearly won. pac didn't train as much as usual for this fight and it equaled to mabs wishes to brag about lasting 12 unlike eric.
jmm guzman soto and valero, could gain confidents now but once inside with pac I can only really see jmm lasting. No way would pac let anyone hurt him as what your trying to say cause he'll hurt them if they even try.
I like jmm to be the best beside pac and thats the fight that would really be a fight. I don't get how you would thing pac would get hurt by guzman ain't he like 35 now, pac will own him. valero is too green and prolly will never get any better, soto knock out pacs brother so your damn sure pac will come in wanting to murder him, that just leave jmm but the draw in the first fight could light a fire in pac so I can't really see pac coming into a fight undertrain again.
so who would you call the second best fighter of the world? base on that fight you'd think you can't call floyd best in the world with a s.d win over an even older oscar. come on now talk some real sense, your not bitter are you?
Re: Did you enjoy the Manny fight? I didnt,both fighters looked poor....
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
"He must FULLY train next time. I wish he would stop his wild lifestyle and concentrate more in boxing rather than womanizing, gambling, politics... and STOP making record albums and movies... pleeaaassseee!!!" -Pacstraightleft
Totally agree. I know I'm being harsh on Manny but please,understand,I'm a huge fan of his style.He is P4P one of the most exciting fighters in the world. After all the hype to this fight and all the talk from Pacs camp,you would have thought he would have done better.
KK,your points are legitimate and Manny should learn his lesson and not train back home again but still,all the talk from the Manny camp,about Manny's amazing sparring,him being bang on weight,calling him the best fighter in the world etc etc etc = heightened expectations. It was a poor performance in a fight he should have excelled in.
I just hope he learns his lesson,screws everything,the singing,the movies,politics and training back home and gets back to his best: giving us exciting fights and knocking guys out!
at the peak of manny's training in the p.i. he was really awesome. i've never really seen him as fast and as sharp before. i really thought he would blow barrera away. i think he might have peaked too early and the changed of venue in his training messed up his conditioning schedule. i mean why change a winning formula when he has always done so well training in the u.s.?
Re: Did you enjoy the Manny fight? I didnt,both fighters looked poor....
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Originally Posted by KKisser
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
"He must FULLY train next time. I wish he would stop his wild lifestyle and concentrate more in boxing rather than womanizing, gambling, politics... and STOP making record albums and movies... pleeaaassseee!!!" -Pacstraightleft
Totally agree. I know I'm being harsh on Manny but please,understand,I'm a huge fan of his style.He is P4P one of the most exciting fighters in the world. After all the hype to this fight and all the talk from Pacs camp,you would have thought he would have done better.
KK,your points are legitimate and Manny should learn his lesson and not train back home again but still,all the talk from the Manny camp,about Manny's amazing sparring,him being bang on weight,calling him the best fighter in the world etc etc etc = heightened expectations. It was a poor performance in a fight he should have excelled in.
I just hope he learns his lesson,screws everything,the singing,the movies,politics and training back home and gets back to his best: giving us exciting fights and knocking guys out!
at the peak of manny's training in the p.i. he was really awesome. i've never really seen him as fast and as sharp before. i really thought he would blow barrera away. i think he might have peaked too early and the changed of venue in his training messed up his conditioning schedule. i mean why change a winning formula when he has always done so well training in the u.s.?
Good point.
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
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Originally Posted by KKisser
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
"He must FULLY train next time. I wish he would stop his wild lifestyle and concentrate more in boxing rather than womanizing, gambling, politics... and STOP making record albums and movies... pleeaaassseee!!!" -Pacstraightleft
Totally agree. I know I'm being harsh on Manny but please,understand,I'm a huge fan of his style.He is P4P one of the most exciting fighters in the world. After all the hype to this fight and all the talk from Pacs camp,you would have thought he would have done better.
KK,your points are legitimate and Manny should learn his lesson and not train back home again but still,all the talk from the Manny camp,about Manny's amazing sparring,him being bang on weight,calling him the best fighter in the world etc etc etc = heightened expectations. It was a poor performance in a fight he should have excelled in.
I just hope he learns his lesson,screws everything,the singing,the movies,politics and training back home and gets back to his best: giving us exciting fights and knocking guys out!
at the peak of manny's training in the p.i. he was really awesome. i've never really seen him as fast and as sharp before. i really thought he would blow barrera away. i think he might have peaked too early and the changed of venue in his training messed up his conditioning schedule. i mean why change a winning formula when he has always done so well training in the u.s.?
Good point.
yea, for some reason pac prefers the phillipines maybe he just misses home. I also have a feeling pac and roach are not getting along as much as before ever since roach trained with oscar.
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I need to get this off my chest. That was a poor poor fight. 1 round was exciting,5 I think. Manny Pacquiao was very very poor. There is NO WAY I can call him the second best fighter in the world. Absolutely not. His balance was woeful. His combinations were terrible. Where was the right hand? His jab wand head movement were good but overall,he seemed so shy,so reticent.
MAB seemed content to survive. Even his corner told him to pick up the pace at 1 point and told him to do more!The scoring was woeful in the sense that it was way too exagerrated in favour of Manny but I had him winning. Roach was poor in the corner too,he didn't inject any sense of urgency into Manny.
I think the fame,the lifestyle has finally gotten to Manny. Put that version of Manny in with Soto,Guzman,JMM,he loses.Those guys are firing on all cylinders. Heck Valero would have given him hell.
Thank goodness for the war between Yusuf Mack and Librado Andrade on the undercard!!! And the McCline Peter and Santos Rivera fights. Far more exciting.
:coolclick: Totally agree. Manny looked like S*** last night...BUT...everyone does have a bad night.
CC back,everyone has a bad night but if you're P4P,you're going to judged a little bit harsher. If you're fighting a guy you KTFO before,again,the criteria ge4ts harsher. If the guy you are fighting just wants to survive,that puches the envelope even further. I hope Manny gets his fire back but maybe he has reached his peak,maybe the fame,the pressure and all the other distractions have gotten to him? We'll find out next fight but if I was JMM/GUZMAN/SOTO,I'd want him now!
they can grow some balls first gamo, and if they are growing them from pacs performance last night then let them. Call it a bad night for pac but he still clearly won. pac didn't train as much as usual for this fight and it equaled to mabs wishes to brag about lasting 12 unlike eric.
jmm guzman soto and valero, could gain confidents now but once inside with pac I can only really see jmm lasting. No way would pac let anyone hurt him as what your trying to say cause he'll hurt them if they even try.
I like jmm to be the best beside pac and thats the fight that would really be a fight. I don't get how you would thing pac would get hurt by guzman ain't he like 35 now, pac will own him. valero is too green and prolly will never get any better, soto knock out pacs brother so your damn sure pac will come in wanting to murder him, that just leave jmm but the draw in the first fight could light a fire in pac so I can't really see pac coming into a fight undertrain again.
so who would you call the second best fighter of the world? base on that fight you'd think you can't call floyd best in the world with a s.d win over an even older oscar. come on now talk some real sense, your not bitter are you?
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Re: Did you enjoy the Manny fight? I didnt,both fighters looked poor....
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I need to get this off my chest. That was a poor poor fight. 1 round was exciting,5 I think. Manny Pacquiao was very very poor. There is NO WAY I can call him the second best fighter in the world. Absolutely not. His balance was woeful. His combinations were terrible. Where was the right hand? His jab wand head movement were good but overall,he seemed so shy,so reticent.
MAB seemed content to survive. Even his corner told him to pick up the pace at 1 point and told him to do more!The scoring was woeful in the sense that it was way too exagerrated in favour of Manny but I had him winning. Roach was poor in the corner too,he didn't inject any sense of urgency into Manny.
I think the fame,the lifestyle has finally gotten to Manny. Put that version of Manny in with Soto,Guzman,JMM,he loses.Those guys are firing on all cylinders. Heck Valero would have given him hell.
Thank goodness for the war between Yusuf Mack and Librado Andrade on the undercard!!! And the McCline Peter and Santos Rivera fights. Far more exciting.
:coolclick: Totally agree. Manny looked like shit last night...BUT...everyone does have a bad night.
CC back,everyone has a bad night but if you're P4P,you're going to judged a little bit harsher. If you're fighting a guy you KTFO before,again,the criteria ge4ts harsher. If the guy you are fighting just wants to survive,that puches the envelope even further. I hope Manny gets his fire back but maybe he has reached his peak,maybe the fame,the pressure and all the other distractions have gotten to him? We'll find out next fight but if I was JMM/GUZMAN/SOTO,I'd want him now!
they can grow some balls first gamo, and if they are growing them from pacs performance last night then let them. Call it a bad night for pac but he still clearly won. pac didn't train as much as usual for this fight and it equaled to mabs wishes to brag about lasting 12 unlike eric.
jmm guzman soto and valero, could gain confidents now but once inside with pac I can only really see jmm lasting. No way would pac let anyone hurt him as what your trying to say cause he'll hurt them if they even try.
I like jmm to be the best beside pac and thats the fight that would really be a fight. I don't get how you would thing pac would get hurt by guzman ain't he like 35 now, pac will own him. valero is too green and prolly will never get any better, soto knock out pacs brother so your damn sure pac will come in wanting to murder him, that just leave jmm but the draw in the first fight could light a fire in pac so I can't really see pac coming into a fight undertrain again.
so who would you call the second best fighter of the world? base on that fight you'd think you can't call floyd best in the world with a s.d win over an even older oscar. come on now talk some real sense, your not bitter are you?
First of all,don't be calling me bitter when I've written on numerous times I much I like Manny. If you're going to post,don't post shit. Second of all,I'm not sure who the second best fighter is.I'll revise my opinion after all the big fights this year have finished.ANYONE,who knows ANYTHING about boxing knows that Floyd-Oscar was not an SD. No way. Mayweather won the last 4 rounds easily. I had 116-112.As did most. Mayweather is the best fighter in the world at the moment,as muchas it pains me to say that...
And I was just saying, going by that performance,going by the fact that Roach said Manny was looking better than ever and would electrify,it was a poor showing. A very poor showing. And going by this fight, I would think the guys I mentioned would want to fight Manny.
Guzman was calling out Manny at the press conference. He's also been working with Mayweather senior,working on his power. His defence could cause Manny problems. Especially if Manny is not going to be the monstor he has been before. As KKisser said, Roach is working on making Manny more technical but if he tried being technical with Guzman,he would lose.I have a feeling Manny and Roach are not on the same wavelength or certainly not as much as they used to be. Call it a gut instinct but the chemistry was not there. Roach looked lethargic in Manny's corner.
BTW,thanks for the SC Julius.
Re: Did you enjoy the Manny fight? I didnt,both fighters looked poor....
I can't give the cc yet Rain, (the 24hr thing).
Re: Did you enjoy the Manny fight? I didnt,both fighters looked poor....
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I need to get this off my chest. That was a poor poor fight. 1 round was exciting,5 I think. Manny Pacquiao was very very poor. There is NO WAY I can call him the second best fighter in the world. Absolutely not. His balance was woeful. His combinations were terrible. Where was the right hand? His jab wand head movement were good but overall,he seemed so shy,so reticent.
MAB seemed content to survive. Even his corner told him to pick up the pace at 1 point and told him to do more!The scoring was woeful in the sense that it was way too exagerrated in favour of Manny but I had him winning. Roach was poor in the corner too,he didn't inject any sense of urgency into Manny.
I think the fame,the lifestyle has finally gotten to Manny. Put that version of Manny in with Soto,Guzman,JMM,he loses.Those guys are firing on all cylinders. Heck Valero would have given him hell.
Thank goodness for the war between Yusuf Mack and Librado Andrade on the undercard!!! And the McCline Peter and Santos Rivera fights. Far more exciting.
:coolclick: Totally agree. Manny looked like S*** last night...BUT...everyone does have a bad night.
CC back,everyone has a bad night but if you're P4P,you're going to judged a little bit harsher. If you're fighting a guy you KTFO before,again,the criteria ge4ts harsher. If the guy you are fighting just wants to survive,that puches the envelope even further. I hope Manny gets his fire back but maybe he has reached his peak,maybe the fame,the pressure and all the other distractions have gotten to him? We'll find out next fight but if I was JMM/GUZMAN/SOTO,I'd want him now!
they can grow some balls first gamo, and if they are growing them from pacs performance last night then let them. Call it a bad night for pac but he still clearly won. pac didn't train as much as usual for this fight and it equaled to mabs wishes to brag about lasting 12 unlike eric.
jmm guzman soto and valero, could gain confidents now but once inside with pac I can only really see jmm lasting. No way would pac let anyone hurt him as what your trying to say cause he'll hurt them if they even try.
I like jmm to be the best beside pac and thats the fight that would really be a fight. I don't get how you would thing pac would get hurt by guzman ain't he like 35 now, pac will own him. valero is too green and prolly will never get any better, soto knock out pacs brother so your damn sure pac will come in wanting to murder him, that just leave jmm but the draw in the first fight could light a fire in pac so I can't really see pac coming into a fight undertrain again.
so who would you call the second best fighter of the world? base on that fight you'd think you can't call floyd best in the world with a s.d win over an even older oscar. come on now talk some real sense, your not bitter are you?
First of all,don't be calling me bitter when I've written on numerous times I much I like Manny. If you're going to post,don't post S***. Second of all,I'm not sure who the second best fighter is.I'll revise my opinion after all the big fights this year have finished.ANYONE,who knows ANYTHING about boxing knows that Floyd-Oscar was not an SD. No way. Mayweather won the last 4 rounds easily. I had 116-112.As did most. Mayweather is the best fighter in the world at the moment,as muchas it pains me to say that...
And I was just saying, going by that performance,going by the fact that Roach said Manny was looking better than ever and would electrify,it was a poor showing. A very poor showing. And going by this fight, I would think the guys I mentioned would want to fight Manny.
Guzman was calling out Manny at the press conference. He's also been working with Mayweather senior,working on his power. His defence could cause Manny problems. Especially if Manny is not going to be the monstor he has been before. As KKisser said, Roach is working on making Manny more technical but if he tried being technical with Guzman,he would lose.I have a feeling Manny and Roach are not on the same wavelength or certainly not as much as they used to be. Call it a gut instinct but the chemistry was not there. Roach looked lethargic in Manny's corner.
BTW,thanks for the SC Julius.
I agree that PBF is still no1 p4p. I don't think anyone here is debating that. And yes, Manny pissed off Roach a little bit. lol, Roach said to Manny "stop fooling around".
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I need to get this off my chest. That was a poor poor fight. 1 round was exciting,5 I think. Manny Pacquiao was very very poor. There is NO WAY I can call him the second best fighter in the world. Absolutely not. His balance was woeful. His combinations were terrible. Where was the right hand? His jab wand head movement were good but overall,he seemed so shy,so reticent.
MAB seemed content to survive. Even his corner told him to pick up the pace at 1 point and told him to do more!The scoring was woeful in the sense that it was way too exagerrated in favour of Manny but I had him winning. Roach was poor in the corner too,he didn't inject any sense of urgency into Manny.
I think the fame,the lifestyle has finally gotten to Manny. Put that version of Manny in with Soto,Guzman,JMM,he loses.Those guys are firing on all cylinders. Heck Valero would have given him hell.
Thank goodness for the war between Yusuf Mack and Librado Andrade on the undercard!!! And the McCline Peter and Santos Rivera fights. Far more exciting.
:coolclick: Totally agree. Manny looked like shit last night...BUT...everyone does have a bad night.
CC back,everyone has a bad night but if you're P4P,you're going to judged a little bit harsher. If you're fighting a guy you KTFO before,again,the criteria ge4ts harsher. If the guy you are fighting just wants to survive,that puches the envelope even further. I hope Manny gets his fire back but maybe he has reached his peak,maybe the fame,the pressure and all the other distractions have gotten to him? We'll find out next fight but if I was JMM/GUZMAN/SOTO,I'd want him now!
they can grow some balls first gamo, and if they are growing them from pacs performance last night then let them. Call it a bad night for pac but he still clearly won. pac didn't train as much as usual for this fight and it equaled to mabs wishes to brag about lasting 12 unlike eric.
jmm guzman soto and valero, could gain confidents now but once inside with pac I can only really see jmm lasting. No way would pac let anyone hurt him as what your trying to say cause he'll hurt them if they even try.
I like jmm to be the best beside pac and thats the fight that would really be a fight. I don't get how you would thing pac would get hurt by guzman ain't he like 35 now, pac will own him. valero is too green and prolly will never get any better, soto knock out pacs brother so your damn sure pac will come in wanting to murder him, that just leave jmm but the draw in the first fight could light a fire in pac so I can't really see pac coming into a fight undertrain again.
so who would you call the second best fighter of the world? base on that fight you'd think you can't call floyd best in the world with a s.d win over an even older oscar. come on now talk some real sense, your not bitter are you?
First of all,don't be calling me bitter when I've written on numerous times I much I like Manny. If you're going to post,don't post shit. Second of all,I'm not sure who the second best fighter is.I'll revise my opinion after all the big fights this year have finished.ANYONE,who knows ANYTHING about boxing knows that Floyd-Oscar was not an SD. No way. Mayweather won the last 4 rounds easily. I had 116-112.As did most. Mayweather is the best fighter in the world at the moment,as muchas it pains me to say that...
And I was just saying, going by that performance,going by the fact that Roach said Manny was looking better than ever and would electrify,it was a poor showing. A very poor showing. And going by this fight, I would think the guys I mentioned would want to fight Manny.
Guzman was calling out Manny at the press conference. He's also been working with Mayweather senior,working on his power. His defence could cause Manny problems. Especially if Manny is not going to be the monstor he has been before. As KKisser said, Roach is working on making Manny more technical but if he tried being technical with Guzman,he would lose.I have a feeling Manny and Roach are not on the same wavelength or certainly not as much as they used to be. Call it a gut instinct but the chemistry was not there. Roach looked lethargic in Manny's corner.
BTW,thanks for the SC Julius.
your welcome for the sad click I gave you, sorry I forgot to put one of these :sadclick: its for bitching about mabs last fight. I am glad he didn't get knock out and he lasted 12, and no I didn't call you bitter I ask you. What I'm saying is your bitching about pac not being second best after clearly winning a u.d and clearly undertrained, but you never talk about how floyd never look as dominant as pac usual do well not since the mitchell fight. yea ok maybe oscar wasn't a s.d win but it was a closer u.d win than pacs is on mabs. Your being to hard on the second best p4p fighter but you don't point out shyt about your belove maywheater. you got to be fair if you'll be hard on pac this much for one fight then how harder would you be on floyd atleast guys like me would think, but then again yea your only hard on pacman.
yea guzman is training with floyd sr. but he ain't look too good to has he? all i'm saying is your jumping into conclusion and your pretty much bashing pac and saying his not second best p4p for personal reasons. And you dare say the fight was poor and very poor, you should be proud mab didn't get knock out in his last fight. Well atleast eric went out blazing. pac did look poor and undertrain too bad mab still couldn't do shyt about it. could jmm or guzman or valero or soto. hell mab could beat any one of them so what in the world makes you think they can do any better then mab did?
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I seldom have sad clicked in my time here but yours is well deserved,have one back. I would respond to your points but to be honest,they make no sense.
"My beloved Mayweather>" Read my posts again,you fucking deranged nuthugger,I've written time and time again that I like Manny more than Floyd.
"I should be proud MAB didn't get knocked out?" What the fuck are you talking about?
You're "glad the fight went the distance" Stop talking shit,you're making yourself look foolish.
Seriously,it's not even worth discussing these points with you,I'm not going to waste my time. I'll stick to discussing them with Pac fans that know their boxing like KKisser etc.
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I seldom have sad clicked in my time here but yours is well deserved,have one back. I would respond to your points but to be honest,they make no sense.
"My beloved Mayweather>" Read my posts again,you fucking deranged nuthugger,I've written time and time again that I like Manny more than Floyd.
"I should be proud MAB didn't get knocked out?" What the fuck are you talking about?
You're "glad the fight went the distance" Stop talking shit,you're making yourself look foolish.
Seriously,it's not even worth discussing these points with you,I'm not going to waste my time. I'll stick to discussing them with Pac fans that know their boxing like KKisser etc.
yo man I'm not even gonna go further with this with you, you've lost my respect after bitching about mabs last fight. yea yea yea you can talk shyt to me and curse at me but thats koo cause you got it good cause you've been here for a long time thats why your confident you can talk that way I know I can't cause all you got to do is give some talk to the boss and get me out cause I totally disagreed with your bitching.
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Ok im going to step in here and say chill out guys otherwise i will use my MOD powers on you well if you post in calendar section i can anyway :P
But seriously don't get heated up fellas just leave it now.
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I'm giving Pac a B+ for his performance last night. Marco didn't really cooporate that much to please the crowd. It always takes two to tango.
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I need to get this off my chest. That was a poor poor fight. 1 round was exciting,5 I think. Manny Pacquiao was very very poor. There is NO WAY I can call him the second best fighter in the world. Absolutely not. His balance was woeful. His combinations were terrible. Where was the right hand? His jab wand head movement were good but overall,he seemed so shy,so reticent.
MAB seemed content to survive. Even his corner told him to pick up the pace at 1 point and told him to do more!The scoring was woeful in the sense that it was way too exagerrated in favour of Manny but I had him winning. Roach was poor in the corner too,he didn't inject any sense of urgency into Manny.
I think the fame,the lifestyle has finally gotten to Manny. Put that version of Manny in with Soto,Guzman,JMM,he loses.Those guys are firing on all cylinders. Heck Valero would have given him hell.
Thank goodness for the war between Yusuf Mack and Librado Andrade on the undercard!!! And the McCline Peter and Santos Rivera fights. Far more exciting.
:coolclick: Totally agree. Manny looked like S*** last night...BUT...everyone does have a bad night.
CC back,everyone has a bad night but if you're P4P,you're going to judged a little bit harsher. If you're fighting a guy you KTFO before,again,the criteria ge4ts harsher. If the guy you are fighting just wants to survive,that puches the envelope even further. I hope Manny gets his fire back but maybe he has reached his peak,maybe the fame,the pressure and all the other distractions have gotten to him? We'll find out next fight but if I was JMM/GUZMAN/SOTO,I'd want him now!
they can grow some balls first gamo, and if they are growing them from pacs performance last night then let them. Call it a bad night for pac but he still clearly won. pac didn't train as much as usual for this fight and it equaled to mabs wishes to brag about lasting 12 unlike eric.
jmm guzman soto and valero, could gain confidents now but once inside with pac I can only really see jmm lasting. No way would pac let anyone hurt him as what your trying to say cause he'll hurt them if they even try.
I like jmm to be the best beside pac and thats the fight that would really be a fight. I don't get how you would thing pac would get hurt by guzman ain't he like 35 now, pac will own him. valero is too green and prolly will never get any better, soto knock out pacs brother so your damn sure pac will come in wanting to murder him, that just leave jmm but the draw in the first fight could light a fire in pac so I can't really see pac coming into a fight undertrain again.
so who would you call the second best fighter of the world? base on that fight you'd think you can't call floyd best in the world with a s.d win over an even older oscar. come on now talk some real sense, your not bitter are you?
First of all,don't be calling me bitter when I've written on numerous times I much I like Manny. If you're going to post,don't post S***. Second of all,I'm not sure who the second best fighter is.I'll revise my opinion after all the big fights this year have finished.ANYONE,who knows ANYTHING about boxing knows that Floyd-Oscar was not an SD. No way. Mayweather won the last 4 rounds easily. I had 116-112.As did most. Mayweather is the best fighter in the world at the moment,as muchas it pains me to say that...
And I was just saying, going by that performance,going by the fact that Roach said Manny was looking better than ever and would electrify,it was a poor showing. A very poor showing. And going by this fight, I would think the guys I mentioned would want to fight Manny.
Guzman was calling out Manny at the press conference. He's also been working with Mayweather senior,working on his power. His defence could cause Manny problems. Especially if Manny is not going to be the monstor he has been before. As KKisser said, Roach is working on making Manny more technical but if he tried being technical with Guzman,he would lose.I have a feeling Manny and Roach are not on the same wavelength or certainly not as much as they used to be. Call it a gut instinct but the chemistry was not there. Roach looked lethargic in Manny's corner.
BTW,thanks for the SC Julius.
I agree and well said cos i know you rate manny but to be honest and i am a MAB fan big time if he was all that ad he had trained he sould have beat MAB´s A** and he did´nt he needs to get serious about this job or go run for president or something ;D ;D ;D
