Re: Graham says Hatton fighting at 140:Hatton wants Paulie
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Originally Posted by OwnedbyICB
Just opened a new thread on Witter calling Hatton out again.
Owned by ICB LOL ;D
Re: Graham says Hatton fighting at 140:Hatton wants Paulie
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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by hackey100
Witter is a prick. Why should Hatton hand him a pyday when he has done nothing but slag him off for 8 years On top of that, he is boring to watch so Hatton would probably lose a million just to take a fight that would have limited ppv sales in the states. At least Paulie has a following in the states and in reality Ricky would probably get more respect for a win over him than Witter.
That's a S*** excuse. Floyd could have said that to Hatton. If every fighter in the dominant position took that stance there'd be no fights.
The fight wouldn't be PPV in the States. Nor would Hatton-Powderpuff.
Witter is boring? Floyd is a BORING fighter too. Hatton said so. ;)
Mayweather has actually been in alot of exciting fights, only a few haven't been exciting.
I don't think Floyd is boring. ;)
Re: Graham says Hatton fighting at 140:Hatton wants Paulie
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Originally Posted by Greig
Yes!!
Hatton doesn't take a punch well at 147, and you can bet that DLH at 147 hits a great deal harder than Floyd or Collazo. I believe that Ricky's only shot against DLH at 147 would be if Oscar had to really kill himself to make weight (highly possible given he hasn't fought there in years).
Ricky belongs at 140. His health and success is more important than money IMO.
Agreed...Hatton can make the money at 140...will it mean more fights? Yes but in those fights he will take less abuse then he will at 147 against DLH...Oscar is a pretty hard hitter at 147...and much stronger then Hatton in general....
The only way I could see it being sensable for Hatton to take this fight would be if he knew it would be his last and wanted to go out with a big payday
Re: Graham says Hatton fighting at 140:Hatton wants Paulie
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Ricky at the momenet has another problem other than weight. He has failed to let his hands go in recent fights. His bread and butter upto his 40th fight was his volume punching...where ha s it gone? Has he neglected his body to the opint where his once famed stamina is eroded and average or is it a confidence thing?
All I know is, coming into the second phase of his career my fighter had better take care of himself in between fights and train with volume, because i never want to see him beaten again...way too painful.
Put him in the ring with an Olivera or another fighter at the level of his early fights and you'll see endless volume from Hatton. You just can't do that against somebody with Floyd's speed.
Hatton will look 100% better against the next guy he fights at 140.
If he fights Paulie at MSG, what happens if the ref stops him working inside again?
Re: Graham says Hatton fighting at 140:Hatton wants Paulie
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Originally Posted by hackey100
Witter is a prick. Why should Hatton hand him a pyday when he has done nothing but slag him off for 8 years. On top of that, he is boring to watch so Hatton would probably lose a million just to take a fight that would have limited ppv sales in the states. At least Paulie has a following in the states and in reality Ricky would probably get more respect for a win over him than Witter.
US networks won't be interested in putting a Witter fight on free, never mind PPV. Witter-Hatton doesn't work economically because US TV won't buy it. It's not going to happen.
Re: Graham says Hatton fighting at 140:Hatton wants Paulie
How about Hatton versus Kendall Holt? Everyone's trying to throw Ricky in there with a champ or a top tier fighter, but maybe the guy needs to rebuild his confidence a little first. Holt's a slick guy, quick, but has failed on the big stage and is prone to fading late. Just the right guy for Hatton to jump on top of, not a bum by any stretch, but not a guy who's going to tear his head off, either.
Re: Graham says Hatton fighting at 140:Hatton wants Paulie
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by BHB
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Why does Witter deserve the fight more than Paulie?
Witter's been hounding Hatton to fight him for the past 7/8 years. Before Powderpuff even turned pro.
Witter is rated above Powderpuff in The Ring ratings ( ::**)
Witters form is better than Powderpuffs. Well, Powderpuffs form and belt are no better than Witters.
If Hatton can fight Powderpuff he can fight Witter. Fact. Although if I was Hatton I'd MUCH rather face Powderpuff.
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Originally Posted by BHB
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Originally Posted by Fenster
How is powderpuff-paulie any more worthy than Witter?
What is it that Witter needs to prove? ::**
Hatton-Witter would be a massive fight over here.
The only reason it wont happen is if Hatton continues to refuse to face him. Which is fucking sad if he's considering fighting ANYONE ELSE at 140.
Lol, Yea of course paulie is a powder puff..
I forgot you were some sort of ape..
Me Fenstahh.. Me like Box box.. Boxer Smash Boxer Smash, Phuck skill, me like smash
Aside from hatton Paulie is the best in the division, And if they are willing to wait long enough paulie will fight them, He has his manadatory in january and still has to fulfill a rematch clause against Ndou.. Then if witter wants to loose his title he can headline at Msg for the first and only time..
And Ice personally yes i rate the Ndou and Edner fights more then i do a corley and harris fight
Harris and corley are a fair bit past it and frankly although both real good fighters its blatant that witter would beat them, He gets props for stopping viv but just for the stoppage , the win was always gona happen.. And lets not forget.. One was a title fight and harris was a mandatory..
Now look at it on paulies side, Ndou was a title fight which is fair play..He doesnt shout how great the opponent was.. But its highly evident he can hang well in with 140 cotto and edner is fresh young and a great fighter.. The difference being what has edner done since loosing.. Fought on kept winning and fought the undercard or Undefeated.. Corley and harris have faded away, Cos they are done
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See Above ;)
.. Powderpuff this .. Porderpuff that.. Sounds like jealousy to me my love ^-^
Yeah thanks. You proved Witter is more worthy than Powderpuff. ;D
Think you need to re read that mate.. I said witter has done shit all to prove himself better then malignaggi
Fuck this arguement.. I want malignaggi to give witter his second loss, hatton needent ever fight him Lol :)
Who is the biggest win for Junior Umm Lets see.. tHATS Right Vicous FRAIL VIVIAN HARRIS
He got beattup by Maussa.. Theres no arguement there...Maussa is just..
He is just AWFUL Lol
So of course a guy that can actually fight will beat him.. But thats nothing to say witter is the man all of a sudden, He knocked out viv, it looked pretty, viv went down hard and suddenly witter is the man..It just doesnt work like that
Re: Graham says Hatton fighting at 140:Hatton wants Paulie
To be honest Hatton should go for one of the other 2 belt holders first.....Torres or Rees.
Most probably Torres....doubt Warren would put Rees in with Hatton.
And let Powderpuff and Witter fight it out.....with the winner fighting in a unification with the winner of Hatton - Torres/Rees.
Makes perfect sense to me.....and Powderpuff and Witter are equally annoying. If the fight was in the states it would give Witter some US exposure which almost makes the fight with Hatton worthwhile....if they both win.
Re: Graham says Hatton fighting at 140:Hatton wants Paulie
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Originally Posted by ono
To be honest Hatton should go for one of the other 2 belt holders first.....Torres or Rees.
Most probably Torres....doubt Warren would put Rees in with Hatton.
And let Powderpuff and Witter fight it out.....with the winner fighting in a unification with the winner of Hatton - Torres/Rees.
Makes perfect sense to me.....and Powderpuff and Witter are equally annoying. If the fight was in the states it would give Witter some US exposure which almost makes the fight with Hatton worthwhile....if they both win.
::** Hey..You know if i and everyone else keeps calling Paulie powderpuff maybe belittling a great fighter who blatantly is world class will calm my raving jealousy and make me feel better
You think paulie was born a light hitter.. He broke his hands and had several surgeries very early in his career and he made the best of what he had since he had to keep earning his money but couldnt risk his hands any more.. And look where he is now.. It gave him so much boxing skill, a world title and evidently a whole crue of jealous englishmen ::**
Re: Graham says Hatton fighting at 140:Hatton wants Paulie
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Originally Posted by BHB
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Originally Posted by ono
To be honest Hatton should go for one of the other 2 belt holders first.....Torres or Rees.
Most probably Torres....doubt Warren would put Rees in with Hatton.
And let Powderpuff and Witter fight it out.....with the winner fighting in a unification with the winner of Hatton - Torres/Rees.
Makes perfect sense to me.....and Powderpuff and Witter are equally annoying. If the fight was in the states it would give Witter some US exposure which almost makes the fight with Hatton worthwhile....if they both win.
::** Hey..You know if i and everyone else keeps calling Paulie powderpuff maybe belittling a great fighter who blatantly is world class will calm my raving jealousy and make me feel better
You think paulie was born a light hitter.. He broke his hands and had several surgeries very early in his career and he made the best of what he had since he had to keep earning his money but couldnt risk his hands any more.. And look where he is now.. It gave him so much boxing skill, a world title and evidently a whole crue of jealous englishmen ::**
Where did that come from?
I was joking (altho he does slightly annoy me)
i know the story behind his hands....powderpuff just sounds funny thats all.
he's a great fighter....and pretty exciting to watch.
and he's already beaten the face off of one gobshite.....if he did the same to Junior Witter he would be one of my favourites.
Re: Graham says Hatton fighting at 140:Hatton wants Paulie
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Originally Posted by ono
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Originally Posted by BHB
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Originally Posted by ono
To be honest Hatton should go for one of the other 2 belt holders first.....Torres or Rees.
Most probably Torres....doubt Warren would put Rees in with Hatton.
And let Powderpuff and Witter fight it out.....with the winner fighting in a unification with the winner of Hatton - Torres/Rees.
Makes perfect sense to me.....and Powderpuff and Witter are equally annoying. If the fight was in the states it would give Witter some US exposure which almost makes the fight with Hatton worthwhile....if they both win.
::** Hey..You know if i and everyone else keeps calling Paulie powderpuff maybe belittling a great fighter who blatantly is world class will calm my raving jealousy and make me feel better
You think paulie was born a light hitter.. He broke his hands and had several surgeries very early in his career and he made the best of what he had since he had to keep earning his money but couldnt risk his hands any more.. And look where he is now.. It gave him so much boxing skill, a world title and evidently a whole crue of jealous englishmen ::**
Where did that come from?
I was joking (altho he does slightly annoy me)
i know the story behind his hands....powderpuff just sounds funny thats all.
he's a great fighter....and pretty exciting to watch.
and he's already beaten the face off of one gobshite.....if he did the same to Junior Witter he would be one of my favourites.
Lol Fair enough :-\ :P
Least your honest..
I question Fenster and he just talks away on a resentment trip over paulie
More people should be able to respect a guy like paulie who does it a different way and can still be entertaining even though he does talk trash a fair bit..
I dont agree with What paulie says about ricky and im not even sure i want to see paulie - Hatton cos i dont wana pick a winner and both guys are great so i dont want either to get another loss on theyr record..
Only good from that could be a wicked trilogy :D Lol
Long as one guy has a rematch clause then let em go at it :)
Re: Graham says Hatton fighting at 140:Hatton wants Paulie
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Originally Posted by BHB
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Originally Posted by ono
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Originally Posted by BHB
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Originally Posted by ono
To be honest Hatton should go for one of the other 2 belt holders first.....Torres or Rees.
Most probably Torres....doubt Warren would put Rees in with Hatton.
And let Powderpuff and Witter fight it out.....with the winner fighting in a unification with the winner of Hatton - Torres/Rees.
Makes perfect sense to me.....and Powderpuff and Witter are equally annoying. If the fight was in the states it would give Witter some US exposure which almost makes the fight with Hatton worthwhile....if they both win.
::** Hey..You know if i and everyone else keeps calling Paulie powderpuff maybe belittling a great fighter who blatantly is world class will calm my raving jealousy and make me feel better
You think paulie was born a light hitter.. He broke his hands and had several surgeries very early in his career and he made the best of what he had since he had to keep earning his money but couldnt risk his hands any more.. And look where he is now.. It gave him so much boxing skill, a world title and evidently a whole crue of jealous englishmen ::**
Where did that come from?
I was joking (altho he does slightly annoy me)
i know the story behind his hands....powderpuff just sounds funny thats all.
he's a great fighter....and pretty exciting to watch.
and he's already beaten the face off of one gobshite.....if he did the same to Junior Witter he would be one of my favourites.
Lol Fair enough :-\ :P
Least your honest..
I question Fenster and he just talks away on a resentment trip over paulie
More people should be able to respect a guy like paulie who does it a different way and can still be entertaining even though he does talk trash a fair bit..
I dont agree with What paulie says about ricky and im not even sure i want to see paulie - Hatton cos i dont wana pick a winner and both guys are great so i dont want either to get another loss on theyr record..
Only good from that could be a wicked trilogy :D Lol
Long as one guy has a rematch clause then let em go at it :)
Yeh to be honest i don't mind the trash talking when it's not about Hatton.....altho Paulie was pretty mild with it compared to N'dou.
I think Paulie could give Hatton a lot of problems with his handspeed and boxing ability.
I feel Paulie needs another high profile win under his belt before that fight will be made....altho Hatton did fight Urango and Collazo so who knows.
Who do you think would win?
Re: Graham says Hatton fighting at 140:Hatton wants Paulie
:o :( How dare you :'(
Urango and Collazo
Collazo shouldnt be mentioned along with urango.. Collazo is an amazing fighter..One of my very favourites
no hard feelings but you should try get a few of his fights man hes real impressive, hell even though it was tough to watch hes real impressive against ricky.. That was not just down to weight or time given to prepare that was strait up problems that Luis will give you..Lol
Paulie even if he wanted to fight ricky after his mandatory probs wont come together till mid to late '08 tbh he has a mandatory and a rematch to fullfil against Ndou so.. if hatton doesnt think he has racked up another victory worth fighting him for now he wont have had the chance next year.. S'a bit of a shame
But without pauliefighting ricky he will most likely have a bout with Dhop instead which would also be interesting..
Im not sure on this one.. Paulie fought a 160 pound miguel cotto and withstood alot of fire power in that fight and im not sure ricky could offer the same stuff to paulie..
And paulie having taken his fair share of rounds from cotto in theyr fight i feel like he sticks to his gameplan more in a bout with hatton
But at the same time since paulie hasnt the power to keep ricky off him ricky just needs to keep busy and stop paulie from looking good, By smothering him.. Paulie doesnt score by landing telling blows but you can tell paulie is on top of a fight cos its just keeping the jab in his face.. pot shot, out the way, combination , out the way and its there but not as blatant or attractive when his opponent is in too close So .. Not that i keep it as a definate pick but..
Most likely hatton by very close decision.. But it goes either way with the scorecards way out.. Cos i dont have faith in judges and i think its a scrappy twelve round fight
Re: Graham says Hatton fighting at 140:Hatton wants Paulie
BHB - calmdown you donut ;D
Just cause I call Powderpuff, Powderpuff doesn't mean I don't think he's a decent fighter.
Now -
1) Powderpuff's only win worth a mention was against N'DOU, right? Witter has beaten N'dou too. So along with Harris, Corley and even Colin Lynes, Kotelnik and Morua Witter EASILY rates higher than Powderpuff. How could he not?
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2) Powderpuff is most defintely NOT great. Currently a world-class lightwelter, yes, but NOT great. ;)
Re: Graham says Hatton fighting at 140:Hatton wants Paulie
Paulie(or PowderPuff)earned my respect from the beating he took from Cotto,Cotto broek his face,LITERALLY and yet big mouth was still standing there. I don't mind his ego so much anymore,knowing that he can back it up.The kid is tough.
