Could There Be Be Any Better Fight Made In The Sport Than...........

PBF vs Cotto will be billed as: UNDEFEATED....................PART II ;D

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Originally Posted by Puya

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Originally Posted by caleoh12

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Originally Posted by Bx730NY

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Originally Posted by Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker

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Originally Posted by Bx730NY

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Originally Posted by Hulk

I'm not so sure that Cotto is ready yet. There's a case to be made that he lost to Mosley. I felt he won or it was a draw, but not everyone saw it that way. What would Miguel do so damn differnt from all the others? Yeah, he is bigger, and has more power than Hatton, but guess what? He's not as fast. He can't close the distance like Hatton can. He does have a better jab than Hatton though.

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If that's the case, there's a case to be made that DLH beat floyd. floyd got a split while Cotto won unanimous against a better and more active fighter.

BTW, I don't think DLH beat floyd at all. I just had to make that point because you have guys that love or hate a fighter so much that they don't see fights with clear vision.

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If that's the case, there's a case to be made that DLH beat floyd. floyd got a split while Cotto won unanimous against a better and more active fighter.


Oh come on thats not comparable, Mayweather easily beat Oscar De La Hoya, plus the punch stats were a landslide for Mayweather.

Cotto vs Mosley is very debatable i had Mosley vs Cotto a draw, Mosley come on very strong in the later rounds, punch stats had them landing the same amount of punches it was very close fight.

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That's your opinion and your entitled to it but the fact remains that Cotto beat a guy who beat DLH twice and was far more active and sharp on fight night than Oscar as evidenced by DLH fighting way out of character and wailing away like we've never seen him do.

Those are facts and not opinions.

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Just because Cotto beat a guy (Mosley) that beat De La Hoya who lost to Mayweather does not mean Cotto can take Mayweather any easier than the next guy. There is no proof to linear match-ups being factors to determine fights.

For example: With that logic that means Morales is better than Barrera because he beat Junior Jones OR Barrera is better than Morales because he won the trilogy so Morales wouldn't be able to beat Pacquiao OR Roberto Duran is better than Tommy Hearns because Duran beat Leonard.

But what happened was Morales lost the trilogy against Barrera even thought he beat Junior Jones, Morales beat Pacquiao even though he lost to Barrera who lost to Pacquiao, and Duran beat Leonard who beat Hearns but Duran sure didn't beat Hearns.
Hope that was clear to understand.

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But WTF cares about that. We all want to see the fight. I'm PuertoRican I love Cotto But if takes an easy fight I will criticize him because I want him to fight the Best. and For Mayweather NOW is the Time. Easy this fight can be maid between April and July. No more than that.

IT is really stupid that while Cotto fans want for him to fight Floyd the others PBF, Cotto Haters and Hatton Fans don't want this fight to happen.
In Fact I'm in shock. It's cool that you have your opinion of who should win blah blah blah but to say that this fight should not be maid in the next fight of them it's really ridiculous. It's the Only reason why I MIGHT thing are afraid of Cotto wining because 1) P4P status of Floyd will disappear with all his hype and all because of his big as moth 2) Hatton will loose more crdibility 3) Cotto haters just want to for him to loose.

Now all those 3 points MAYBE the real reason why you don't want this fight to happen. Other than that is unreal.
AND please don't talk about money between this 2 or build up or what ever the stage is ready everyone but i mean everyone is talking about this fight.

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Of course I would love to see Cotto and Mayweather's next fight be each other. What some people aren't understanding is that just because the stage is set doesn't necessarily mean the fight will be made. Anticipation and delay, love it or hate it, makes people yearn for the fight more. This equals BIGGER BUCKS! Boxing today is a business and fighters no longer fight just to fight. You say don't talk about money but you know what, it is what it is. Boxing at this level and money come hand in hand. Even if money means nothing to us, it sure does to the figthers. You may say that Cotto doesn't care about the money as much as the fight itself (I believe that's true about Cotto) but the thing is Mayweather will care about the price he's getting and you can't have a fight unless two people are in the ring, not one.

With your points three points:

1) P4P status of Floyd will disappear with all his hype and all because of his big as moth

Boxing is competition. If a pound-for-pound fighter is in the ring, their position on that list is always in jeopardy.

2) Hatton will loose more crdibility

Not one bit. He fought the best fighter in the world having moved up in a weight class where he has proved to not be effective. If anything, Hatton just shows he has balls.

3) Cotto haters just want to for him to loose.

Of course! Just as Mayweather haters just want him to lose.

***A little side note. My post that you chose to criticize was in reply to another person's post about how linear boxing matches can determine a winner.

Well caleoh12 I'm thinking you are a smart fellow and noted the Bold words like
I MIGHT and MAYBE.

But it frustrates me that for some fans Hatton is worthy for a shot at PBF but not Cotto.

It's not that he isn't worthy more that theres no point.

Cotto is only 27. When Mayweather was 27 he was still fighting the DeMarcus Corley's of this world. Hardly a class of their own.

I think Cotto should think further afield first.

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Originally Posted by Wasp

It's not that he isn't worthy more that theres no point.

Cotto is only 27. When Mayweather was 27 he was still fighting the DeMarcus Corley's of this world. Hardly a class of their own.

I think Cotto should think further afield first.

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DeMarcus Corley was a good fighter at the time and Mayweather was stepping up in weight.
Remember the struggle Corley gave Cotto?
You really can't discredit Mayweather he ticked the boxes at all the weights apart from Welter.
Hopefully he will now make a move to tick the boxes at 147 before he retires.

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Originally Posted by Wasp

It's not that he isn't worthy more that theres no point.

Cotto is only 27. When Mayweather was 27 he was still fighting the DeMarcus Corley's of this world. Hardly a class of their own.

I think Cotto should think further afield first.

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When Mayweather was 27 he won World title's in 2 different weight classes and was on his way to winning 3 beating the likes of.

Diego Corrales
Jesus Chavez
Genaro Hernandez
Angel Manfredy
Jose Luis Castillo x2
Carlos Hernandez
Phillip N'dou

And DeMarcus Corley was Former WBO Jr Wetlerweight champion and only lost his title losing razor thin decision to Zab Judah. Corley was considered a good name when Mayweather fought him.

I don't theink Cotto was struggled by Corly. It was very one sided. Corly got one good shot in but was easily beaten. Corly was struggling with Cottos power throughout the fight.
He came in wearing a stupid mask looking a idiot and i think he left in very much the same manner.

As for calling Corly good. You must think people like Junior Witter are pure ledgends.
Looking at it Corly beat Felix Flores a very poor boxer for the WBO defended it against poor boxers.

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Originally Posted by Wasp

I don't theink Cotto was struggled by Corly. It was very one sided. Corly got one good shot in but was easily beaten. Corly was struggling with Cottos power throughout the fight.
He came in wearing a stupid mask looking a idiot and i think he left in very much the same manner.

As for calling Corly good. You must think people like Junior Witter are pure ledgends.
Looking at it Corly beat Felix Flores a very poor boxer for the WBO defended it against poor boxers.

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I don't theink Cotto was struggled by Corly. It was very one sided. Corly got one good shot in but was easily beaten. Corly was struggling with Cottos power throughout the fight.
He came in wearing a stupid mask looking a idiot and i think he left in very much the same manner.

He was almost knocked out and was stumbling around the ring like a drunk man for most of the round. Lucky Corley is a sloppy finisher or we could have seen an upset.

As for calling Corly good. You must think people like Junior Witter are pure ledgends.
Looking at it Corly beat Felix Flores a very poor boxer for the WBO defended it against poor boxers.

Corley was a good name at the time Mayweather fought him, i didn't make out he was elite or etc. But he was still a good name at the time.

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Originally Posted by Wasp

I don't theink Cotto was struggled by Corly. It was very one sided. Corly got one good shot in but was easily beaten. Corly was struggling with Cottos power throughout the fight.
He came in wearing a stupid mask looking a idiot and i think he left in very much the same manner.

As for calling Corly good. You must think people like Junior Witter are pure ledgends.
Looking at it Corly beat Felix Flores a very poor boxer for the WBO defended it against poor boxers.

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Cotto got careless in that fight and was severely hurt a number of times. It is a testament to his heart and courage that he survived. Good clips of this fight may be found on hbo's website and they demonstrate the danger Cotto was in.

And I don't feel he left looking like an idiot as he gained a good amount of respect in giving Cotto the fight he did.

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Originally Posted by Ricardo "Finito" Lopez

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Originally Posted by Wasp

I don't theink Cotto was struggled by Corly. It was very one sided. Corly got one good shot in but was easily beaten. Corly was struggling with Cottos power throughout the fight.
He came in wearing a stupid mask looking a idiot and i think he left in very much the same manner.

As for calling Corly good. You must think people like Junior Witter are pure ledgends.
Looking at it Corly beat Felix Flores a very poor boxer for the WBO defended it against poor boxers.

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I don't theink Cotto was struggled by Corly. It was very one sided. Corly got one good shot in but was easily beaten. Corly was struggling with Cottos power throughout the fight.
He came in wearing a stupid mask looking a idiot and i think he left in very much the same manner.

He was almost knocked out and was stumbling around the ring like a drunk man for most of the round. Lucky Corley is a sloppy finisher or we could have seen an upset.

As for calling Corly good. You must think people like Junior Witter are pure ledgends.
Looking at it Corly beat Felix Flores a very poor boxer for the WBO defended it against poor boxers.

Corley was a good name at the time Mayweather fought him, i didn't make out he was elite or etc. But he was still a good name at the time.

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Bah 1 round a very bad round that he got rocked. who doesn't he almost did the same to PBF but he wasn't as hurt as Cotto. The rest of the fight was all Cotto. Corley went down 3 times in that fight while Cotto went down 0 times. Please. and that fight was at 140 where he was weight drained you all know that is not healthy. try to ask Floyd to make 140 or 135 and Hatton to maje 135. they probably could but they will not be the same.

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Originally Posted by Puya

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Originally Posted by Ricardo "Finito" Lopez

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Originally Posted by Wasp

I don't theink Cotto was struggled by Corly. It was very one sided. Corly got one good shot in but was easily beaten. Corly was struggling with Cottos power throughout the fight.
He came in wearing a stupid mask looking a idiot and i think he left in very much the same manner.

As for calling Corly good. You must think people like Junior Witter are pure ledgends.
Looking at it Corly beat Felix Flores a very poor boxer for the WBO defended it against poor boxers.

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I don't theink Cotto was struggled by Corly. It was very one sided. Corly got one good shot in but was easily beaten. Corly was struggling with Cottos power throughout the fight.
He came in wearing a stupid mask looking a idiot and i think he left in very much the same manner.

He was almost knocked out and was stumbling around the ring like a drunk man for most of the round. Lucky Corley is a sloppy finisher or we could have seen an upset.

As for calling Corly good. You must think people like Junior Witter are pure ledgends.
Looking at it Corly beat Felix Flores a very poor boxer for the WBO defended it against poor boxers.

Corley was a good name at the time Mayweather fought him, i didn't make out he was elite or etc. But he was still a good name at the time.

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Bah 1 round a very bad round that he got rocked. who doesn't he almost did the same to PBF but he wasn't as hurt as Cotto. The rest of the fight was all Cotto. Corley went down 3 times in that fight while Cotto went down 0 times. Please. and that fight was at 140 where he was weight drained you all know that is not healthy. try to ask Floyd to make 140 or 135 and Hatton to maje 135. they probably could but they will not be the same.

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Im not saying anything bad about Cotto, i was just giving that guy the facts. From the way i see the fight, im not saying its bad thing to be rocked by Corley because he can turn your legs to jelly with 1 punch, and the good thing for Cotto is that his punch resistance is much better at Welterweight.

Corley was a good name at the time Mayweather fought him, i didn't make out he was elite or etc. But he was still a good name at the time.

Yeah a real big name. Then just 9 months later Cotto knocks him out in just 5 something noone else had ever done.

I think you're mad if you think Cotto was almost knocked out. It's his style, he knocks them down in the first round then piles on pressure and can get caught. LOL

I have just watched the fight again. And the fight was only 5 rounds lol. He was only hurt in 1 but he was still fighting that style jabbing moving around.

Have to say i think Puya's right he did gain a lot of weight after those weigh in's

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Generally yes, Cotto vs. PBF is by far the biggest fight that can be made. But there are other fights that IMO to the hardcore fans would be as big as Cotto-PBF. In no particular order:

Calderon vs. Solis - Mouth watering fight both very skilled fighters.
Guzman vs. Pac - The waters heating up and it WILL boil.
De Leon vs. Caballero II - This shit! is looong over due.
'Baby Bull' vs. Hatton - I made a thread on this a while back and the response was great.
Pavlik vs. Abraham - Come on you know you wanna see it.
Kessler vs. Froch - Nothing would please me more in 2008 then to see this one come off.





Other fights that I would be very interested in seeing:
Arce vs. Mabuza - No one agress with me but something tells me this fight would be fucken great.
Kiko vs. Baustista - 2 young prospects with power.
Linares vs. Luevano - 2 young guys both newly crowned World Champs.
Enzo vs. Haye - I hope it comes...

Again not on par with Cotto-PBF BUT very close IMO.

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silence mambuza would FUCK arce up

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Generally yes, Cotto vs. PBF is by far the biggest fight that can be made. But there are other fights that IMO to the hardcore fans would be as big as Cotto-PBF. In no particular order:

Calderon vs. Solis - Mouth watering fight both very skilled fighters.
Guzman vs. Pac - The waters heating up and it WILL boil.
De Leon vs. Caballero II - This S***! is looong over due.
'Baby Bull' vs. Hatton - I made a thread on this a while back and the response was great.
Pavlik vs. Abraham - Come on you know you wanna see it.
Kessler vs. Froch - Nothing would please me more in 2008 then to see this one come off.





Other fights that I would be very interested in seeing:
Arce vs. Mabuza - No one agress with me but something tells me this fight would be fucken great.
Kiko vs. Baustista - 2 young prospects with power.
Linares vs. Luevano - 2 young guys both newly crowned World Champs.
Enzo vs. Haye - I hope it comes...

Again not on par with Cotto-PBF BUT very close IMO.

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u forgot the best one...

isreal vs rafa III

two fights done, both got stopped..

this isn;t a let down fight... this will be hell and nothign less, to guys who are in no way going to want to win this fight by boxing... they will teare that shit up, go to hell and back, then back to hell and come back again... right now they are 1-1 this will decide the undisputed champ of their weight...

i mean style wise, cotto vs toni is everythig you want from a match...

sure toni lost o the hugger williams... but him v cotto would be awsome... you got the hard hitter agaisnt the guy you can't hurt.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Generally yes, Cotto vs. PBF is by far the biggest fight that can be made. But there are other fights that IMO to the hardcore fans would be as big as Cotto-PBF. In no particular order:

Calderon vs. Solis - Mouth watering fight both very skilled fighters.
Guzman vs. Pac - The waters heating up and it WILL boil.
De Leon vs. Caballero II - This shit! is looong over due.
'Baby Bull' vs. Hatton - I made a thread on this a while back and the response was great.
Pavlik vs. Abraham - Come on you know you wanna see it.
Kessler vs. Froch - Nothing would please me more in 2008 then to see this one come off.





Other fights that I would be very interested in seeing:
Arce vs. Mabuza - No one agress with me but something tells me this fight would be fucken great.
Kiko vs. Baustista - 2 young prospects with power.
Linares vs. Luevano - 2 young guys both newly crowned World Champs.
Enzo vs. Haye - I hope it comes...

Again not on par with Cotto-PBF BUT very close IMO.

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silence mambuza would FUCK arce up

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He is the bigger fighter