Quit Now Ricky!

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

The article was complete shit. To imply that Hatton is no more the fighter he was 3 years ago is just wrong. Ricky is still every bit as good as he was 3 or 4 years ago it's just his opposition has improved.

The Kosta Tyzsu that he beat was the one who was washed up, inactive, coming to the end of his career, a string of injuries and he didn't really want it. He gave up, quit on his stool, hardly the mark of a man at the peak of his powers. He was no longer hungry and so quit when it got tough, no disrespect to him but anyone who thinks Hatton really beat the real Kosta Tyszu is just deluded.

Take that win away and Hatton has struggled against everyone.

Eamonn Magee floored him and took him to 12 tough rounds. He plodded out a win over Ben Tackie. John Thaxton completely busted his face up in another hard fought win. That fight could conceivably have been stopped.

He got cut and looked shit against Carlos Maussa, a fighter other prospects since have just blown away. He got wobbled by Urango, almost ktfo by Collazo.

Kosta aside, where are these dominant world class performances against top opposition that people hearken back to?

He's just a decent hardworking fighter who got lucky in fighting a great champion at the right time.

His win over Tyszu is about as significant as Leon Spink's over Ali or John Ruiz's over Hoylfield.


Please let's not be negative about Hatton and suggest he has declined and should retire. Just accept that in hindsight he was never that good to begin with. :)

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Very similar feelings as you on this one.

Altho...

i feel he would have beaten Kostya anytime. His style was just all wrong and ultimately too much for him.

Apart from the cut, Thaxton got completely anhialated.

Ben Tackie got completely outboxed by Hatton

But i get the jist of what you're saying and i have to agree. I think a lot of reporters only seriously started following him from the Kostya fight onwards. I've watched every single fight and i can honestly say he isn't on the slide. He has been relatively inconsistent ever since he's been world rated. Thing is, he's always found a way to win. Saturday night was no different. I thought he looked very sharp. The most accurate i've seen him since his WBU days. His new trainer has clearly been working on new combinations. It was successful.

As far as i'm concerned he did the job quite well on Saturday. I predicted a points victory (117-111 ish) and he did slightly better than that. I just don't see why there is so much hate and negativity.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

If Hatton hasn't faded (clearly has) Bilbo must be right (he's not) Hatton was always SHIT!!!

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You're almost right Fenster. Just answer me this.


Kosta aside what other world class performers has Hatton put on a world class performance against?

Castillo? :-X

He's built his legacy on fighting decaying former champs.

He's never beaten a world class prime fighter and when faced merely 'good' prime fighters, Collazo and Urango for example he's almost come undone.

People are making a great deal about his chin being weaker but he's never been able to take a punch. Collazo who has KO'd about as many guys as Sergio Mora had him out on his feet, Lazcano had him holding on for dear life and Floyd who is not a big puncher at 147 completely annihilated him.

He's not an elite fighter, never was and never will be. All the elite fighters with talent and ambition have now moved up to 147 where the action is and Hatton has moved back down to fight amongst a bunch of nobodies.

He's fight Malignaggi, another loser and will win a tough fight to tremendous national aclaim. He'll probably even win Sports Personality of the Year for his 'achievement' :rolleyes:

The fact is that the light welter divison is shit right now.

In another 18 months however it will be stacked with new talent.

Gamboa, Khan, Lamont Peterson, Victor Ortiz etc will all be challening for titles and if Hatton is still around and gets predictably slaughtered people will say its because he was done. When in fact its nothing of the sort, it's just that the competition around then isn't around now.

In fact I'd fancy right now all 4 of those above would take Hatton apart.

Another year and he'd best retire because they will all just plain embarrass him.

This was nothing more then a rant by someone who could not come up with anything else of quality to write about. I really did not see anything but the obvious of what everyone else has seen in Hatton pointed out again. We all know Hatton has changed his style to a hit and hold that bores fans a bit. We all know that Hatton has taken his Ricky Fatton routine a bit too far and it has taken a bit of a toll on him. That is something that could happen to anyone though.

I am not really sure about why he mentioned Ray Leonard as a guy who slid down the track of disaster. Leonard had two or so fights past his best days when he should of stayed away. Those were the Terry Norris and Hector Camacho fights. It is not as the guy became a stepping stool for up coming prospects.

I take the whole thing with a grain of salt.

Colin Hart laid into Naz after his loss also.

where is he from... Wigon?

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Originally Posted by Put Em' Up

This was nothing more then a rant by someone who could not come up with anything else of quality to write about. I really did not see anything but the obvious of what everyone else has seen in Hatton pointed out again. We all know Hatton has changed his style to a hit and hold that bores fans a bit. We all know that Hatton has taken his Ricky Fatton routine a bit too far and it has taken a bit of a toll on him. That is something that could happen to anyone though.

I am not really sure about why he mentioned Ray Leonard as a guy who slid down the track of disaster. Leonard had two or so fights past his best days when he should of stayed away. Those were the Terry Norris and Hector Camacho fights. It is not as the guy became a stepping stool for up coming prospects.

I take the whole thing with a grain of salt.

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I think like me Colin fully expects Ricky to get his fat ass handed to him when one of the following prospects of Khan, Ortiz, Peterson or Gamboa reaches the world stage.

Better to retire now rather than get pasted by a unproven prospect in 2009.

I believe he should fight Paulie though, he can definitely win that fight and would probably beat any of the other current belt holders.

But as soon as some talent comes back to the division Hatton best quit and start his own chain of pubs.

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

The article was complete shit. To imply that Hatton is no more the fighter he was 3 years ago is just wrong. Ricky is still every bit as good as he was 3 or 4 years ago it's just his opposition has improved.

The Kosta Tyzsu that he beat was the one who was washed up, inactive, coming to the end of his career, a string of injuries and he didn't really want it. He gave up, quit on his stool, hardly the mark of a man at the peak of his powers. He was no longer hungry and so quit when it got tough, no disrespect to him but anyone who thinks Hatton really beat the real Kosta Tyszu is just deluded.

Take that win away and Hatton has struggled against everyone.

Eamonn Magee floored him and took him to 12 tough rounds. He plodded out a win over Ben Tackie. John Thaxton completely busted his face up in another hard fought win. That fight could conceivably have been stopped.

He got cut and looked shit against Carlos Maussa, a fighter other prospects since have just blown away. He got wobbled by Urango, almost ktfo by Collazo.

Kosta aside, where are these dominant world class performances against top opposition that people hearken back to?

He's just a decent hardworking fighter who got lucky in fighting a great champion at the right time.

His win over Tyszu is about as significant as Leon Spink's over Ali or John Ruiz's over Hoylfield.


Please let's not be negative about Hatton and suggest he has declined and should retire. Just accept that in hindsight he was never that good to begin with. :)

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:lolhaha: I personally don't want to see Hatton retired. I want to see his ass get smashed again

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Originally Posted by Saddo

Colin Hart laid into Naz after his loss also.

where is he from... Wigon?

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;D

His hair-hat is a shocker.

He layed into Naz before he lost too. Naz layed back into him mind. ;)

Never liked Colin Hart anyway! Why should Hatton quit he is still the best in the division and he still has the hunger.Plus he is linning up another shot at Mayweather which i think is a very bad idear that he will lose by ko in 6.But if you get 20m for the fight who can blame him.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

The article was complete shit. To imply that Hatton is no more the fighter he was 3 years ago is just wrong. Ricky is still every bit as good as he was 3 or 4 years ago it's just his opposition has improved.

The Kosta Tyzsu that he beat was the one who was washed up, inactive, coming to the end of his career, a string of injuries and he didn't really want it. He gave up, quit on his stool, hardly the mark of a man at the peak of his powers. He was no longer hungry and so quit when it got tough, no disrespect to him but anyone who thinks Hatton really beat the real Kosta Tyszu is just deluded.

Take that win away and Hatton has struggled against everyone.

Eamonn Magee floored him and took him to 12 tough rounds. He plodded out a win over Ben Tackie. John Thaxton completely busted his face up in another hard fought win. That fight could conceivably have been stopped.

He got cut and looked shit against Carlos Maussa, a fighter other prospects since have just blown away. He got wobbled by Urango, almost ktfo by Collazo.

Kosta aside, where are these dominant world class performances against top opposition that people hearken back to?

He's just a decent hardworking fighter who got lucky in fighting a great champion at the right time.

His win over Tyszu is about as significant as Leon Spink's over Ali or John Ruiz's over Hoylfield.


Please let's not be negative about Hatton and suggest he has declined and should retire. Just accept that in hindsight he was never that good to begin with. :)

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:lolhaha: I personally don't want to see Hatton retired. I want to see his ass get smashed again

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At least bilbo actually allows for his knowledge of the sport not to be overcast by his loathing for a particular fighter.

You dont even attempt to insightful!!!

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by Put Em' Up

This was nothing more then a rant by someone who could not come up with anything else of quality to write about. I really did not see anything but the obvious of what everyone else has seen in Hatton pointed out again. We all know Hatton has changed his style to a hit and hold that bores fans a bit. We all know that Hatton has taken his Ricky Fatton routine a bit too far and it has taken a bit of a toll on him. That is something that could happen to anyone though.

I am not really sure about why he mentioned Ray Leonard as a guy who slid down the track of disaster. Leonard had two or so fights past his best days when he should of stayed away. Those were the Terry Norris and Hector Camacho fights. It is not as the guy became a stepping stool for up coming prospects.

I take the whole thing with a grain of salt.

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I think like me Colin fully expects Ricky to get his fat ass handed to him when one of the following prospects of Khan, Ortiz, Peterson or Gamboa reaches the world stage.

Better to retire now rather than get pasted by a unproven prospect in 2009.

I believe he should fight Paulie though, he can definitely win that fight and would probably beat any of the other current belt holders.

But as soon as some talent comes back to the division Hatton best quit and start his own chain of pubs.

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I doubt Colin Hart even knows who Ortiz, Peterson and Gamboa are....

Maybe Hatton should fight them all now. Get em out of the way while he has a chance.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by Saddo

Colin Hart laid into Naz after his loss also.

where is he from... Wigon?

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;D

His hair-hat is a shocker.

He layed into Naz before he lost too. Naz layed back into him mind. ;)

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Hahahaha i remember it was at the Wayne McCullough Press gathering he said right to his face.... "your a fool" hahahaha

very uncomftable for Colin never seen Naz that angry at anyone before :o

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

The article was complete shit. To imply that Hatton is no more the fighter he was 3 years ago is just wrong. Ricky is still every bit as good as he was 3 or 4 years ago it's just his opposition has improved.

The Kosta Tyzsu that he beat was the one who was washed up, inactive, coming to the end of his career, a string of injuries and he didn't really want it. He gave up, quit on his stool, hardly the mark of a man at the peak of his powers. He was no longer hungry and so quit when it got tough, no disrespect to him but anyone who thinks Hatton really beat the real Kosta Tyszu is just deluded.

Take that win away and Hatton has struggled against everyone.

Eamonn Magee floored him and took him to 12 tough rounds. He plodded out a win over Ben Tackie. John Thaxton completely busted his face up in another hard fought win. That fight could conceivably have been stopped.

He got cut and looked shit against Carlos Maussa, a fighter other prospects since have just blown away. He got wobbled by Urango, almost ktfo by Collazo.

Kosta aside, where are these dominant world class performances against top opposition that people hearken back to?

He's just a decent hardworking fighter who got lucky in fighting a great champion at the right time.

His win over Tyszu is about as significant as Leon Spink's over Ali or John Ruiz's over Hoylfield.


Please let's not be negative about Hatton and suggest he has declined and should retire. Just accept that in hindsight he was never that good to begin with. :)

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:lolhaha: I personally don't want to see Hatton retired. I want to see his ass get smashed again

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At least bilbo actually allows for his knowledge of the sport not to be overcast by his loathing for a particular fighter.

You dont even attempt to insightful!!!

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Actually my boxing knowledge is pretty much built upon loathing.

My main interest in the sport lies in cheering for those I dislike to get knocked out.

Of course I don't hate everybody, and do cheer on certain fighters. Mainly the opponents of those who I want to get knocked out.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

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Originally Posted by Saddo

Colin Hart laid into Naz after his loss also.

where is he from... Wigon?

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;D

His hair-hat is a shocker.

He layed into Naz before he lost too. Naz layed back into him mind. ;)

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Hahahaha i remember it was at the Wayne McCullough Press gathering he said right to his face.... "your a fool" hahahaha

very uncomftable for Colin never seen Naz that angry at anyone before :o

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He is a fool though. Thing is, The Sun newspaper is aimed at the average idiot so i don't suppose he has to actually know that much about Boxing. So long as the article contains enough cliches for idiotic sports fans to repeat to their mates at work, everything will be alright.

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Quit now Ricky! | The Sun |HomePage|Sport|SunSport Columnists

Colin Hart of The sun is calling for Hatton to quit.

The article annoyed the hell out of me.

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"They are expected to meet in in the autumn. I wonder how many more pints and pies Ricky will consume by then."

-Colin Hart

It sounds like he has genuine concern for Ricky's health in the ring.

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Man, the guys from the Sun paper, if you lived in the UK you would know how shit the Sun paper is. I wouldn't use it to wipe my ass with.

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Hey!!! Just make sure you pull out the 'Dear Dierdre' section and hand it to me before you take that dump!

''Dear Dierdre,
I have a 2 inch phallus and can not make my girlfriend cum. Can I make it bigger??''

Dierdre's response - ''No, but don't worry. Love will prevail and she will love you regardless..you can always pleasure your girl in other ways. Try giving her oral''

Yeah yeah fuck you, you lying old bitch ;D

Gotta love Dear Diedre!

Obviously the article was effective. We have 4 pages on this thread. It worked.