Re: Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Vote who would win
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Haye, he's gonna smash that boring prick.
I'd like to think so but I wouldn't put all your stock in a blown up cruiser to dethrone the HW champ of the world just yet...;)
People forget Haye is a NATURAL heavyweight. He said that himself it ain't an opinion ;). He had to starve himself for cruiserweight. He'll be faster at the weight and hit harder at the weight cuz he won't have to starve himself. Yet he will come in great shape as always. Not flabby like Sam Peter etc.
He also said that saying he struggled to make cruiser was a ploy to get Enzo in the ring on their terms, can't all be true. Regardless, he may very well be the next champ, but he needs a few fights to prove that, and it takes more than a punch and some speed to be succesful at heavy, just ask Herbie.
Re: Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Vote who would win
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
I'd like to think so but I wouldn't put all your stock in a blown up cruiser to dethrone the HW champ of the world just yet...;)
People forget Haye is a NATURAL heavyweight. He said that himself it ain't an opinion ;). He had to starve himself for cruiserweight. He'll be faster at the weight and hit harder at the weight cuz he won't have to starve himself. Yet he will come in great shape as always. Not flabby like Sam Peter etc.
He also said that saying he struggled to make cruiser was a ploy to get Enzo in the ring on their terms, can't all be true. Regardless, he may very well be the next champ, but he needs a few fights to prove that, and it takes more than a punch and some speed to be succesful at heavy, just ask Herbie.
Your right, he said he was weight drained at cruiser to Enzo. But in reality he could make cruiser (although with starvation).
Re: Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Vote who would win
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leftylee
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PRIDE OF BOSTON
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leftylee
Haye, he's gonna smash that boring prick.
I'd like to think so but I wouldn't put all your stock in a blown up cruiser to dethrone the HW champ of the world just yet...;)
People forget Haye is a NATURAL heavyweight. He said that himself it ain't an opinion ;). He had to starve himself for cruiserweight. He'll be faster at the weight and hit harder at the weight cuz he won't have to starve himself. Yet he will come in great shape as always. Not flabby like Sam Peter etc.
Has fought only one pro fight at 217. He fought at like 205 and 06 a time or two but evey fight has been at 200 or below. Fighting in the amatuers at HW is a world apart from a 12 round pro heavyweight bout. I would beg o differ that he is a "natural HW". He looks his great at 200 and it's hard to believe that he'd greatly improve above that, although possible.
Haye has many times admitted that he struggles to make weight but that doesn't nessesarily mean he'll feel better north of that once in the ring. Only time and a few fights will tell.
I hope Haye succeeds as I'd love to see him spark Wlad. I just don't know if he's got it in him.
Re: Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Vote who would win
PoB, your signature of the brothers is hilarious, probably the gayest pose a couple of heavyweight champions have ever made.
Re: Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Vote who would win
I was looking for a rediculous Wlad pic ans sure enough... BINGO!;D
Re: Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Vote who would win
I posted this already elsewhere, but short of a very well timed lucky shot, this has the feel of a heavily hyped blow-out. Wlad will prove too big, too skilled, too composed and too powerful for Haye.
Klitschko by TKO between the 4th and 7th rounds.
Haye's already been taken out once, and that against a far inferior and smaller opponent.
Re: Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Vote who would win
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I posted this already elsewhere, but short of a very well timed lucky shot, this has the feel of a heavily hyped blow-out. Wlad will prove too big, too skilled, too composed and too powerful for Haye.
Klitschko by TKO between the 4th and 7th rounds.
Haye's already been taken out once, and that against a far inferior and smaller opponent.
Agree with your arguments, Klitschko by KO/TKO in the third quarter of the fight(7th, 8th or 9th).
Re: Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Vote who would win
Wlad is too experienced, too skilled, and simply too big for David Haye
Re: Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Vote who would win
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Wlad is too experienced, too skilled, and simply too big for David Haye
I disagree. I think Wlads experience is his biggest advantage, but as for skill? To me Wlad has looked very robotic since his crushing KO's just working behind a decent jab. Haye is a lot more SKILLED than any of the opponents Wlad has ever faced IMO and will get inside that jab and KO him. As for size well let me say I'm not the biggest Tyson fan and think he was overrated but I'd go for a prime Tyson to destroy Wlad and Tyson was smaller in height and very similar in natural weight to Haye so how could he be simply too big? Also Haye's Punch power is so ferocious I wouldn't put him too far behind Tyson in a punch power competition.
Re: Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Vote who would win
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Lyle
Wlad is too experienced, too skilled, and simply too big for David Haye
I disagree. I think Wlads experience is his biggest advantage, but as for skill? To me Wlad has looked very robotic since his crushing KO's just working behind a decent jab. Haye is a lot more SKILLED than any of the opponents Wlad has ever faced IMO and will get inside that jab and KO him. As for size well let me say I'm not the biggest Tyson fan and think he was overrated but I'd go for a prime Tyson to destroy Wlad and Tyson was smaller in height and very similar in natural weight to Haye so how could he be simply too big? Also Haye's Punch power is so ferocious I wouldn't put him too far behind Tyson in a punch power competition.
David Haye isn't Mike Tyson. All I want from this matchup is for Wladimir to get credit when he smashes David Haye's face in
Re: Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Vote who would win
haven't read all the thread but if was betting I would go for Wlad by stoppage from around the 8th-11th.
but it would not surprise me at all if haye connected early and finished the job
in which case I would have a split bet ;)
Re: Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Vote who would win
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Lyle
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Wlad is too experienced, too skilled, and simply too big for David Haye
I disagree. I think Wlads experience is his biggest advantage, but as for skill? To me Wlad has looked very robotic since his crushing KO's just working behind a decent jab. Haye is a lot more SKILLED than any of the opponents Wlad has ever faced IMO and will get inside that jab and KO him. As for size well let me say I'm not the biggest Tyson fan and think he was overrated but I'd go for a prime Tyson to destroy Wlad and Tyson was smaller in height and very similar in natural weight to Haye so how could he be simply too big? Also Haye's Punch power is so ferocious I wouldn't put him too far behind Tyson in a punch power competition.
David Haye isn't Mike Tyson. All I want from this matchup is for Wladimir to get credit when he smashes David Haye's face in
Wlad always gets my repect but I'm not so sure he will "smash Hayes face in" I honestly think your underestimating Haye.
Re: Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Vote who would win
How can I underestimate him? He hasn't fought anyone worth a damn and he has already been KO'd. And honestly when has a guy who just throws bombs ever gotten better with age? If David Haye doesn't come into a fight with Wlad thinking sweet science (and not bombs away) then he's going to leave that fight on his back!
David Haye right now is an in shape Sam Peter nothing more. If Haye showed he could box vs a bigger and stronger fighter than himself or even one of Wladimir's size then maybe I would worry a bit but right now David Haye is all bark and very little bite.
Re: Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Vote who would win
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Lyle
How can I underestimate him? He hasn't fought anyone worth a damn and he has already been KO'd. And honestly when has a guy who just throws bombs ever gotten better with age? If David Haye doesn't come into a fight with Wlad thinking sweet science (and not bombs away) then he's going to leave that fight on his back!
David Haye right now is an in shape Sam Peter nothing more. If Haye showed he could box vs a bigger and stronger fighter than himself or even one of Wladimir's size then maybe I would worry a bit but right now David Haye is all bark and very little bite.
Then take the bet I've offered you on the other thread!
Re: Wladimir Klitschko V David Haye Vote who would win
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Lyle
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rjj tszyu
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Lyle
Wlad is too experienced, too skilled, and simply too big for David Haye
I disagree. I think Wlads experience is his biggest advantage, but as for skill? To me Wlad has looked very robotic since his crushing KO's just working behind a decent jab. Haye is a lot more SKILLED than any of the opponents Wlad has ever faced IMO and will get inside that jab and KO him. As for size well let me say I'm not the biggest Tyson fan and think he was overrated but I'd go for a prime Tyson to destroy Wlad and Tyson was smaller in height and very similar in natural weight to Haye so how could he be simply too big? Also Haye's Punch power is so ferocious I wouldn't put him too far behind Tyson in a punch power competition.
David Haye isn't Mike Tyson. All I want from this matchup is for Wladimir to get credit when he smashes David Haye's face in
And you will Lyle.
