Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?
Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?
Re: Mexico's top 5 greatest fighter after JC Chavez...
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SaddoBoxer
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kingfrnk
what about JMM i think he is better than antonio margarito
JMM could be no. 6 ... ;) He's nowhere seen among the top 5 ... Or maybe JMM not really considered that a great fighter in Mexico because he's not employing the Mexican aggresive, offensive, brawling style of boxing... ;)
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Thats silly logic because Ricardo Lopez wasn't brawler and was a master boxer, and yet he is number 1 i just don't think its a thought out list.
Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?
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Markusdarkus
Sanchez for me.
Salvador Sanchez has to be my favorite Mexican fighter of all time only equal to Ricardo Lopez, he had legendary stamina in his fights with Pat Cowdell, Azumah Nelson, when these fights were very close going into last round what does he do ? he comes out for the 15th round likes its the first round and drops Cowdell heavily with 20 seconds left with a counter right hand which won him the fight, and stopped Nelson with barrage of non stop punching. He also showed this kind of stamina when Ruben Castillo was slightly ahead in there fight and Sanchez rallied late to win a decision, and he also showed it against Patrick Ford.
Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?
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Markusdarkus
Sanchez for me.
Salvador Sanchez has to be my favorite Mexican fighter of all time only equal to Ricardo Lopez, he had legendary stamina in his fights with Pat Cowdell, Azumah Nelson, when these fights were very close going into last round what does he do ? he comes out for the 15th round likes its the first round and drops Cowdell heavily with 20 seconds left with a counter right hand which won him the fight, and stopped Nelson with barrage of non stop punching. He also showed this kind of stamina when Ruben Castillo was slightly ahead in there fight and Sanchez rallied late to win a decision, and he also showed it against Patrick Ford.
The way he took Wilfredo Gomez apart was pure masterclass.
Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?
I think that Oscar has to be up there if not the best even with his loses his resume looks was better then any other fighter you name. He held titles in the SFW, LW, LWW, WW, LMW, and then MW not many have done that my friends and i dont think many while do that. His best wins are good also i would have to say Jimmy Bredahl, Jorge Paez, John John Molina, Rafael Ruelas, Jesse James Leija, Julio Cesar Chavez, Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Pernell Whitaker, Hector Camacho, Ike Quartey, Arturo Gatti, Javier Castillejo, Fernando Vargas, Luis Ramon Campas, Felix Sturm, Ricardo Mayorga, and then there was Steve Forbes. Now all the people i listed are not the best best wins but all of them have been champions and title holders also. So you tell me how that looks and i think Oscar can claim to be the best mexican to ever fight but just me or am i missing somthing i mean why no love for Oscar all he done for boxing.
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I think that Oscar has to be up there if not the best even with his loses his resume looks was better then any other fighter you name. He held titles in the SFW, LW, LWW, WW, LMW, and then MW not many have done that my friends and i dont think many while do that. His best wins are good also i would have to say
Jimmy Bredahl,
Jorge Paez,
John John Molina,
Rafael Ruelas,
Jesse James Leija,
Julio Cesar Chavez,
Miguel Angel Gonzalez,
Pernell Whitaker,
Hector Camacho,
Ike Quartey,
Arturo Gatti,
Javier Castillejo,
Fernando Vargas,
Luis Ramon Campas,
Felix Sturm,
Ricardo Mayorga, and then there was
Steve Forbes. Now all the people i listed are not the best best wins but all of them have been champions and title holders also. So you tell me how that looks and i think Oscar can claim to be the best mexican to ever fight but just me or am i missing somthing i mean why no love for Oscar all he done for boxing.
Oscar is one of my favorite fighters of all time and you will always see me fighting his corner on here. But I am unsure about calling him a Mexican. He did at the end of the day win a gold medal for the USA in '92. Also Sanchez has to get my vote as greatest Mexican fighter.
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Yea but i dont know he is mexican even though he was born here i mean i live in San Diego it is like mexico in southern California if you been here. But when i look at achiviment and talent and pound for pound. I dont see any of those names you listed as good as Oscar Del La Hoya i could be wrong in the end it is just the way i see it good thread by the way.
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Mr140
Yea but i dont know he is mexican even though he was born here i mean i live in San Diego it is like mexico in southern California if you been here. But when i look at achiviment and talent and pound for pound. I dont see any of those names you listed as good as Oscar Del La Hoya i could be wrong in the end it is just the way i see it good thread by the way.
Thank you! I'd rep you but I have to spread some before it will let me.
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rjj tszyu
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Mr140
I think that Oscar has to be up there if not the best even with his loses his resume looks was better then any other fighter you name. He held titles in the SFW, LW, LWW, WW, LMW, and then MW not many have done that my friends and i dont think many while do that. His best wins are good also i would have to say
Jimmy Bredahl,
Jorge Paez,
John John Molina,
Rafael Ruelas,
Jesse James Leija,
Julio Cesar Chavez,
Miguel Angel Gonzalez,
Pernell Whitaker,
Hector Camacho,
Ike Quartey,
Arturo Gatti,
Javier Castillejo,
Fernando Vargas,
Luis Ramon Campas,
Felix Sturm,
Ricardo Mayorga, and then there was
Steve Forbes. Now all the people i listed are not the best best wins but all of them have been champions and title holders also. So you tell me how that looks and i think Oscar can claim to be the best mexican to ever fight but just me or am i missing somthing i mean why no love for Oscar all he done for boxing.
Oscar is one of my favorite fighters of all time and you will always see me fighting his corner on here. But I am unsure about calling him a Mexican. He did at the end of the day win a gold medal for the USA in '92. Also Sanchez has to get my vote as greatest Mexican fighter.
Oscar is American by birth of mexican decent. I too would have trouble calling him mexican, he was after all born and raised in LA.
Re: Mexico's top 5 greatest fighter after JC Chavez...
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ICB
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SaddoBoxer
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kingfrnk
what about JMM i think he is better than antonio margarito
JMM could be no. 6 ... ;) He's nowhere seen among the top 5 ... Or maybe JMM not really considered that a great fighter in Mexico because he's not employing the Mexican aggresive, offensive, brawling style of boxing... ;)
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Thats silly logic because Ricardo Lopez wasn't brawler and was a master boxer, and yet he is number 1 i just don't think its a thought out list.
The fact that boxing writers can come up a list like this only supports the general sentiment that JMM is not really considered that great in Mexico... :(
JMM is not even included in this poll options... ;)
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Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?
Well when i think mexican i think race so greatest mexican for me is Oscar.
Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?
would say salvador but I would go with Lopez cause Ricardo had a long career and displayed his masterpiece consistently. As for sanchez he did have a great short career but since he did get hit more then he should, anything could of happen if he had lived longer. We will never know, K.O's do happen to anybody even to Roy Jones.
Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?
Sanchez is the first that comes up to my mind then Chavez.. Sanchez had a short but very meaningful career. That's my opinion though. I notice the name Juan Manuel Marquez is not in the list? I consider him one of the best to his contemporaries. He is still in the process of rewriting mexican boxing history and he might turn out to be best who knows. As for Oscar, yeah i see him as mexican but he act and breath now like an american.
Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?
id say chavez definately, didnt he have 90 fights before he lost?