Thought Joe just sneaked it on the night. On reflection I think he won more comfortably than that. Close fight, but Calzaghe a clear winner for me.
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Thought Joe just sneaked it on the night. On reflection I think he won more comfortably than that. Close fight, but Calzaghe a clear winner for me.
hopkins won the fight cause of the knockdown if he didin't calzaghe would of won
Thats as I saw it too bud..Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
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Originally Posted by mrodub
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I think this fight appeals to a matter of taste.
What is better, 1 punch or 5 slaps?
Of course Joe Calzaghe.
Bernard was winning and outfoxing JC for the first five rounds, then slowed down completely, shot. If he had kept it up he would have definitely taken Joe Calzaghe, but Joe way too fit for him to do so, hes always had outstanding fitness.
If the fight had gone eight or perhaps even ten rounds, or he'd had the lungs of a 30something, Bernard would have won, though, no doubt, he was too good a boxer for Joe. There is no doubt that BHop operates at a higher level of Skill than JC.
Save the time and look on boxrec. They tell you the only winner that really matters
Calzaghe won by a mile , Hopkins was trying to slow fight down and be dirty but calzaghe kept the pressure on him well. I love it when disrespectful fighters like Hopkins lose. Same goes to bellew the on sat night when losing to cleverly but FairPlay to bellew he was gracious in defeat unlike Hopkins .
naa it was never a win by a mile. It was close, but I wouldnt sat it was a SD. It was a 60:40 UD, if oyu get my meaning.
It was close enough that had Bhop not been unable to match a younger mans pace, he would have won UD.
Its important to realise Bhops limitations, but same time you've got to admit to the rounds JC was getting outclassed as a boxer. Bhop def has more skill, he really showed up Joes limits early on, and its a good thing he retired, he wouldnt have been able to continue a reign when his assets (speed, fitness) were youthful attributes that would be gone in a year or two and his limted skills simply wouldnt be enough. Why doesnt Bernard take a leaf from Joe's page and retire soone or fighting some easy bums, he is going to ruin his body if he keeps pluggin away at the top fighters like this.
pity Bernard had to play such a negative race card, he ruined what he accomplished in that almost Rocky VI style endnig.
Well Hopkins defiantly didn't have better skills because speed is the best skill of all as calzaghe proved in the majority of his fights .
Calzaghe made em look stupid and clearly won.. This should be unanimous. I dont know why anybody would even question this victory in the first place.
This fight really made me respect Cal's mental toughness. Leading up to the bout, Hops was pulling his usual intimidation tactics but it didnt work cuz calzaghe wasn't having none of that shit. He wasn't gonna let this ghetto fabulous get inside his head and good for him..
I love calzaghe for owning this ghetto ignorant man. He just laughed at Hop's foolish comments as any superior man would do. He stood up to the bully and humiliated him ...
What a great fighter Calzaghe was..
Phillips, speed is never a skill, its an attribute, it can only be increased incrementely, wheras you can learn a hundred new boxing moves that count towards more skills.
good speed with good skill is better than each one alone, thats the best. And if you got bombs too, then your name must be Joe Louis.
but full credit to Joe for outpacing the old man and for not getting intimidated when he was clearly losing the fight to him for five rounds. I'd get well depressed if a grandad was dropping me, so he did well to ignore the shame and shock of being outboxed and stick to the plan.
But why is this poll closed? I wanted to vote my fellow Brit.
Hopkins just didn't do enough to win, he was cruising along at the same work rate throughout and was lucky it was a split decision. The margin could've been wider!
Calzaghe worked harder and the knockdown actually made Calzaghe more focused and he threw more punches and landed more punches. I remember thinking that Hopkins definitely let Calzaghe off the hook after the first round knockdown.
Calzaghe was an exceptional fighter, he would have beaten Hopkins from any stage in Hopkins career. Calzaghe got it wrong in the early rounds, but once he figured the old fool out it was a case of coasting it with a little rough and tumble in the second half.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
Clear and convincing Calzaghe win.
Joe all the WAY old man Hopkins got hit in the ball's? some hit;D rolling around on the floor in pain?bit like the Dawson fight a great fighter my:moon-new: