Where Would You Place Lennox Lewis On The All Time Heavyweight Champions List ????

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Originally Posted by Plopeater

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Originally Posted by Plopeater

Lewis was lucky to catch a Bruno past his best.

Cooper fought Ali twice

Hide had aweome hand speed and power and woul have beat Lewis.


;D Only joking ;D

Form me Lewis lost twice against opponents who he shouldn't have lost to which for me will always put him further down the list than he should have been
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Larry Holmes
3. Joe Frazier
4. Joe Louis
5. Lennox Lewis

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I think lewis got caught by a once in a lifetime shot from mccall & he hadnt aclimaitized for the rahman fight. I mean he knocked the f**k ouut rahman in rematch & made oliver mccall cry, what more could he do.

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I don't think he could any more, i just think he's never going to hold right at the top because of them defeats

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But regardless of the ifs or why's, the two fighters at 1 & 2 on ya list both got beat by fighters they shouldnt have,

Eg Ali vs Leon Spinx, then there was Larry Holmes VS Brother Michael Spinx both defeats they deffo should not have suffered .... what dya think bud:beerchug:

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Originally Posted by Plopeater

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Originally Posted by Drago

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Originally Posted by Plopeater

Lewis was lucky to catch a Bruno past his best.

Cooper fought Ali twice

Hide had aweome hand speed and power and woul have beat Lewis.


;D Only joking ;D

Form me Lewis lost twice against opponents who he shouldn't have lost to which for me will always put him further down the list than he should have been
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Larry Holmes
3. Joe Frazier
4. Joe Louis
5. Lennox Lewis

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I think lewis got caught by a once in a lifetime shot from mccall & he hadnt aclimaitized for the rahman fight. I mean he knocked the f**k ouut rahman in rematch & made oliver mccall cry, what more could he do.

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I don't think he could any more, i just think he's never going to hold right at the top because of them defeats

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This is a difficult one, Louis and Frazier were both GREAT fighters from a historical point of view , but i think Lewis would beat both of them easily , so are we judging them from a historical point of view or as if they were all in the same era ?

1 Muhammad Ali
2 Joe Louis
3 Larry Holmes
4 George Foreman
5 Lennox Lewis
6 Jack Johnson
7 Rocky Marciano
8 Evander Holyfield
9 Jack Dempsey
10 John Ruiz

Took a while here - based it on who I believe would beat who in head to heads

Looks about right to me

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

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Originally Posted by Plopeater

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Originally Posted by Drago

I think lewis got caught by a once in a lifetime shot from mccall & he hadnt aclimaitized for the rahman fight. I mean he knocked the f**k ouut rahman in rematch & made oliver mccall cry, what more could he do.

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I don't think he could any more, i just think he's never going to hold right at the top because of them defeats

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This is a difficult one, Louis and Frazier were both GREAT fighters from a historical point of view , but i think Lewis would beat both of them easily , so are we judging them from a historical point of view or as if they were all in the same era ?

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Best I can come up with is to say pound for pound heavyweights historicaly ... now that should create some debate lol ... saying that .. re Lewis I really believe he woulda done the job in any era against any heavyweight at his best:beerchug:

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I don't think he could any more, i just think he's never going to hold right at the top because of them defeats

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This is a difficult one, Louis and Frazier were both GREAT fighters from a historical point of view , but i think Lewis would beat both of them easily , so are we judging them from a historical point of view or as if they were all in the same era ?

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Best I can come up with is to say pound for pound heavyweights historicaly ... now that should create some debate lol:beerchug:

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Well as i said maybe Lewis loses to a few in the list , but out of 3 fights he betters them , in my opinion.;D

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This is a difficult one, Louis and Frazier were both GREAT fighters from a historical point of view , but i think Lewis would beat both of them easily , so are we judging them from a historical point of view or as if they were all in the same era ?

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Best I can come up with is to say pound for pound heavyweights historicaly ... now that should create some debate lol:beerchug:

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Well as i said maybe Lewis loses to a few in the list , but out of 3 fights he betters them , in my opinion.;D

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Great point made re three fights ... Lennox was one of the best learners out there who always fought better when edgy re his opponent .. when he had a little fear ... that always brought out the best in the guy:beerchug:

Like when he fought a past his best Tyson ... Lennox still had that bit of fear even though his mother and the world knew Tyson really had no more than a punchers chance at best ... yet I still saw that bit of respect and fear in Lennox, but that which brought out his best:beerchug:

I posted this on another thread, but it seems more relevant here. A video list of all the REAL heavyweight Champions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GEFMfDXkI0

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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut

I posted this on another thread, but it seems more relevant here. A video list of all the REAL heavyweight Champions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GEFMfDXkI0

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Cheers for that Ole Boy...:beerchug:

Rocky marciano isn't a heavyweight anymore. if marciano was 6'5" and 255 lbs he would ko lewis faster than rahman did. Lennox lewis had a distinct size and weight advantage in most of his fights. Rocky marciano had a distinct height and weight disadvantage in most of his fights. Big difference.

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Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer

Rocky marciano isn't a heavyweight anymore. if marciano was 6'5" and 255 lbs he would ko lewis faster than rahman did. Lennox lewis had a distinct size and weight advantage in most of his fights. Rocky marciano had a distinct height and weight disadvantage in most of his fights. Big difference.

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Size advantages have nothing to do with it ,are we saying Lewis at 255lbs was the best HW ?

I'm saying you can't compare marciano to lewis.

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Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer

I'm saying you can't compare marciano to lewis.

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No ya cant .. but on that basis alone just man to man as they wouldve been in there prime, for me Lennox leaves Rocky for dead,

So does that make the modern day heavyweight generally greater because of evolution & development down the years .. interesting point me thinx ?????:beerchug:

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I'm saying you can't compare marciano to lewis.

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No ya cant .. but on that basis alone just man to man as they wouldve been in there prime, for me Lennox leaves Rocky for dead,

So does that make the modern day heavyweight generally greater because of evolution & development down the years .. interesting point me thinx ?????:beerchug:

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Everyone was smaller back then. Humans are now grow bigger because advances in health and nutrition. If Lennox Lewis born when Rocky Marciano was born then he would have been like 6'2 210lbs.

So its like inflation and you have to account for that. When you compare the richest man alive in 1950 vs the Richest man alive today; you cantautomatically say todays rich man is richer, simply because he has more money.

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Originally Posted by Mark TKO

1 Muhammad Ali
2 Joe Louis
3 Larry Holmes
4 George Foreman
5 Lennox Lewis
6 Jack Johnson
7 Rocky Marciano
8 Evander Holyfield
9 Jack Dempsey
10 John Ruiz

Took a while here - based it on who I believe would beat who in head to heads

Looks about right to me

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This is a good list.

I dunno about Ruiz though. Ive always had Tyson hanging on to No.10 with his Unification efforts. No one to this day has done what he did.

However i did say if Wlad Unified id have to put him in at 10 which i now do.

Also Lewis is very hard to place (Somewhere in between Foreman, Johnson and Marciano).

I personally like to have him 4th as Foreman (despite the comeback) was actually a bit of a flash in the pan IMO.

My list would be

1 Muhammad Ali
2 Joe Louis
3 Larry Holmes
4 Lennox Lewis
5 Jack Johnson
6 George Foreman
7 Rocky Marciano
8 Evander Holyfield
9 Jack Dempsey
10 Wladamir Klitchsko