Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Doesn't matter really which style Hatton gonna use... Hatton already accepted that his brawling style will not be enough to overwhelm PAC and if he uses a boxing style, his 20 inches very short arm length is so much a disadvantage to box outside...
Box or brawl or both... doesn't matter really...
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He will probably mix it up when he sees the need for it so Manny can't get into a rhythm,
why does he have to announce his stategy? Also give it a rest about arm length and shit, Hatton never boxes on the outside he uses movement to get him in punching range, always has.
There you go, why does he has to announced his every plan and stragedy? Is it a ploy to confuse the opponent? If this is their purpose then sorry it won't work. PAC been in many fights (50 plus) and he knows how to deal an opponent.
So why the many announcements? Is it an indication that they're already in panic mode? IMO, it's an indication...
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Yeah saw him on 'Friday fight night' tonight, he was having a panic attack on air, just looking at each of his short arms and muttering "I'm fucked" constantly whenever he was asked about the Pac fight:rolleyes:
Seriously, Morales still had enough in the tank late in his career to beat Manny, what makes you think Hatton can't pull off one last 'hurrah'?
Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Kel
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SaddoBoxer
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Kel
He will probably mix it up when he sees the need for it so Manny can't get into a rhythm, why does he have to announce his stategy? Also give it a rest about arm length and shit, Hatton never boxes on the outside he uses movement to get him in punching range, always has.
There you go, why does he has to announced his every plan and stragedy? Is it a ploy to confuse the opponent? If this is their purpose then sorry it won't work. PAC been in many fights (50 plus) and he knows how to deal an opponent.
So why the many announcements? Is it an indication that they're already in panic mode? IMO, it's an indication...
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Yeah saw him on 'Friday fight night' tonight, he was having a panic attack on air, just looking at each of his short arms and muttering "I'm fucked" constantly whenever he was asked about the Pac fight:rolleyes:
Seriously, Morales still had enough in the tank late in his career to beat Manny, what makes you think Hatton can't pull off one last 'hurrah'?
I didn't totally write off Hatton... He can win this fight but I only give him very small chance... Maybe 1% chance...
I'm more inclined that PAC will give Hatton the worst beating because PAC is enjoying so many advantages over Hatton that PAC didn't enjoy in his previous fights... Like for example the 20 inches very short arm of Hatton, it's a big advantage to PAC...
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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SaddoBoxer
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Kel
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There you go, why does he has to announced his every plan and stragedy? Is it a ploy to confuse the opponent? If this is their purpose then sorry it won't work. PAC been in many fights (50 plus) and he knows how to deal an opponent.
So why the many announcements? Is it an indication that they're already in panic mode? IMO, it's an indication...
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Yeah saw him on 'Friday fight night' tonight, he was having a panic attack on air, just looking at each of his short arms and muttering "I'm fucked" constantly whenever he was asked about the Pac fight:rolleyes:
Seriously, Morales still had enough in the tank late in his career to beat Manny, what makes you think Hatton can't pull off one last 'hurrah'?
I didn't totally write off Hatton...
He can win this fight but I only give him very small chance... Maybe 1% chance...
I'm more inclined that PAC will give Hatton the worst beating because PAC is enjoying so many advantages over Hatton that PAC didn't enjoy in his previous fights... Like for example the 20 inches very short arm of Hatton, it's a big advantage to PAC...
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You are fucking crazy
Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Kel
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SaddoBoxer
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Kel
Yeah saw him on 'Friday fight night' tonight, he was having a panic attack on air, just looking at each of his short arms and muttering "I'm fucked" constantly whenever he was asked about the Pac fight:rolleyes:
Seriously, Morales still had enough in the tank late in his career to beat Manny, what makes you think Hatton can't pull off one last 'hurrah'?
I didn't totally write off Hatton...
He can win this fight but I only give him very small chance... Maybe 1% chance...
I'm more inclined that PAC will give Hatton the worst beating because PAC is enjoying so many advantages over Hatton that PAC didn't enjoy in his previous fights... Like for example the 20 inches very short arm of Hatton, it's a big advantage to PAC...
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You are fucking crazy
You can consider me crazy but those people here who gave PAC no chance at all against Hoya are far more crazy than me... At least I give Hatton 1% chance...
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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SaddoBoxer
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Kel
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SaddoBoxer
There you go, why does he has to announced his every plan and stragedy? Is it a ploy to confuse the opponent? If this is their purpose then sorry it won't work. PAC been in many fights (50 plus) and he knows how to deal an opponent.
So why the many announcements? Is it an indication that they're already in panic mode? IMO, it's an indication...
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Yeah saw him on 'Friday fight night' tonight, he was having a panic attack on air, just looking at each of his short arms and muttering "I'm fucked" constantly whenever he was asked about the Pac fight:rolleyes:
Seriously, Morales still had enough in the tank late in his career to beat Manny, what makes you think Hatton can't pull off one last 'hurrah'?
I didn't totally write off Hatton... He can win this fight but I only give him very small chance... Maybe 1% chance...
I'm more inclined that PAC will give Hatton the worst beating because PAC is enjoying so many advantages over Hatton that PAC didn't enjoy in his previous fights... Like for example the 20 inches very short arm of Hatton, it's a big advantage to PAC...
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This arm length business is something you really need to give a rest. All of Hattons opponents have longer arms than him and it is seldom a factor. What is the use in having a few inches longer reach if your opponent closes the gap so easily??? It's a really weak argument. Hatton smothers and closes distance in a way that Pac hasn't really had to deal with before. Added to that is the fact Hatton is bigger, stronger and been hit by much harder punchers. Hatton has a much better chance than your ridiculous 1%. I would say at least 50%.
You are in for a rude awakening. At least I'm ready for the possibility that Hatton might not get it right. But I'm expecting Hatton to do very well. You are going to look a bigger fool than you already are when it's all over. 1% chance. That's just bloody stupid. :rolleyes:
Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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miles
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SaddoBoxer
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Kel
Yeah saw him on 'Friday fight night' tonight, he was having a panic attack on air, just looking at each of his short arms and muttering "I'm fucked" constantly whenever he was asked about the Pac fight:rolleyes:
Seriously, Morales still had enough in the tank late in his career to beat Manny, what makes you think Hatton can't pull off one last 'hurrah'?
I didn't totally write off Hatton... He can win this fight but I only give him very small chance... Maybe 1% chance...
I'm more inclined that PAC will give Hatton the worst beating because PAC is enjoying so many advantages over Hatton that PAC didn't enjoy in his previous fights... Like for example the 20 inches very short arm of Hatton, it's a big advantage to PAC...
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This arm length business is something you really need to give a rest. All of Hattons opponents have longer arms than him and it is seldom a factor. What is the use in having a few inches longer reach if your opponent closes the gap so easily??? It's a really weak argument. Hatton smothers and closes distance in a way that Pac hasn't really had to deal with before. Added to that is the fact Hatton is bigger, stronger and been hit by much harder punchers. Hatton has a much better chance than your ridiculous 1%. I would say at least 50%.
You are in for a rude awakening. At least I'm ready for the possibility that Hatton might not get it right. But I'm expecting Hatton to do very well. You are going to look a bigger fool than you already are when it's all over. 1% chance. That's just bloody stupid. :rolleyes:
Yep most Hatton opponents has longer arms than him by 1 or 2 inches but PAC has 5 inches longer arms than Hatton... Mayweather has 6 inches longer arms than Hatton...
I think it will be Hatton that be shocked, awed, surprised and confused when he will meet PAC inside the ring for the first time... Hope Hatton can adjust quickly in order to give at least a competitive rounds or else he'll be in for the worst beating in his life...
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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miles
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I didn't totally write off Hatton... He can win this fight but I only give him very small chance... Maybe 1% chance...
I'm more inclined that PAC will give Hatton the worst beating because PAC is enjoying so many advantages over Hatton that PAC didn't enjoy in his previous fights... Like for example the 20 inches very short arm of Hatton, it's a big advantage to PAC...
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This arm length business is something you really need to give a rest. All of Hattons opponents have longer arms than him and it is seldom a factor. What is the use in having a few inches longer reach if your opponent closes the gap so easily??? It's a really weak argument. Hatton smothers and closes distance in a way that Pac hasn't really had to deal with before. Added to that is the fact Hatton is bigger, stronger and been hit by much harder punchers. Hatton has a much better chance than your ridiculous 1%. I would say at least 50%.
You are in for a rude awakening. At least I'm ready for the possibility that Hatton might not get it right. But I'm expecting Hatton to do very well. You are going to look a bigger fool than you already are when it's all over. 1% chance. That's just bloody stupid. :rolleyes:
Yep most Hatton opponents has longer arms than him by 1 or 2 inches but PAC has 5 inches longer arms than Hatton... Mayweather has 6 inches longer arms than Hatton...
I think it will be Hatton that be shocked, awed, surprised and confused when he will meet PAC inside the ring for the first time... Hope Hatton can adjust quickly in order to give at least a competitive rounds or else he'll be in for the worst beating in his life...
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Give me a prediction on how the fight will go in your view. You don't have to do every round, just summerise the first, mid and late rounds (if it get that far) of how you see the fight going.
Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Kel
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SaddoBoxer
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miles
This arm length business is something you really need to give a rest. All of Hattons opponents have longer arms than him and it is seldom a factor. What is the use in having a few inches longer reach if your opponent closes the gap so easily??? It's a really weak argument. Hatton smothers and closes distance in a way that Pac hasn't really had to deal with before. Added to that is the fact Hatton is bigger, stronger and been hit by much harder punchers. Hatton has a much better chance than your ridiculous 1%. I would say at least 50%.
You are in for a rude awakening. At least I'm ready for the possibility that Hatton might not get it right. But I'm expecting Hatton to do very well. You are going to look a bigger fool than you already are when it's all over. 1% chance. That's just bloody stupid. :rolleyes:
Yep most Hatton opponents has longer arms than him by 1 or 2 inches but PAC has 5 inches longer arms than Hatton... Mayweather has 6 inches longer arms than Hatton...
I think it will be Hatton that be shocked, awed, surprised and confused when he will meet PAC inside the ring for the first time... Hope Hatton can adjust quickly in order to give at least a competitive rounds or else he'll be in for the worst beating in his life...
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Give me a prediction on how the fight will go in your view. You don't have to do every round, just summerise the first, mid and late rounds (if it get that far) of how you see the fight going.
I usually give that kind of prediction after the weigh-in or 1 day before the fight when all training and making the weight activities are done (just like what i did in PAC-Hoya fight).
When I said this early that PAC will inflict the worst beating on Hatton, it's mainly based on the many advantages that PAC enjoyed over Hatton and the track record of PAC inflicting the worst beating to the likes of Barrera, Morales, JM Marquez, DDiaz, Hoya and many more...
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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SaddoBoxer
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Kel
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Yep most Hatton opponents has longer arms than him by 1 or 2 inches but PAC has 5 inches longer arms than Hatton... Mayweather has 6 inches longer arms than Hatton...
I think it will be Hatton that be shocked, awed, surprised and confused when he will meet PAC inside the ring for the first time... Hope Hatton can adjust quickly in order to give at least a competitive rounds or else he'll be in for the worst beating in his life...
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Give me a prediction on how the fight will go in your view. You don't have to do every round, just summerise the first, mid and late rounds (if it get that far) of how you see the fight going.
I usually give that kind of prediction after the weigh-in or 1 day before the fight when all training and making the weight activities are done (just like what i did in PAC-Hoya fight).
When I said this early that PAC will inflict the worst beating on Hatton, it's mainly based on the many advantages that PAC enjoyed over Hatton and the track record of PAC inflicting the worst beating to the likes of Barrera, Morales, JM Marquez, DDiaz, Hoya and many more...
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Just give the prediction now, can't be too hard seeing as Manny has a 99% chance of winning, you must have some idea how his win will come about:-\
Once you have finished wanking over B that is.
Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Kel
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SaddoBoxer
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Kel
Give me a prediction on how the fight will go in your view. You don't have to do every round, just summerise the first, mid and late rounds (if it get that far) of how you see the fight going.
I usually give that kind of prediction after the weigh-in or 1 day before the fight when all training and making the weight activities are done (just like what i did in PAC-Hoya fight).
When I said this early that PAC will inflict the worst beating on Hatton, it's mainly based on the many advantages that PAC enjoyed over Hatton and the track record of PAC inflicting the worst beating to the likes of Barrera, Morales, JM Marquez, DDiaz, Hoya and many more...
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Just give the prediction now, can't be too hard seeing as Manny has a 99% chance of winning, you must have some idea how his win will come about
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Once you have finished wanking over B that is.
My prediction now? PAC will KO/TKO Hatton inside 9 rounds and in the process will inflict the worst beating on Hatton's entire life...
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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SaddoBoxer
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miles
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SaddoBoxer
I didn't totally write off Hatton... He can win this fight but I only give him very small chance... Maybe 1% chance...
I'm more inclined that PAC will give Hatton the worst beating because PAC is enjoying so many advantages over Hatton that PAC didn't enjoy in his previous fights... Like for example the 20 inches very short arm of Hatton, it's a big advantage to PAC...
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This arm length business is something you really need to give a rest. All of Hattons opponents have longer arms than him and it is seldom a factor. What is the use in having a few inches longer reach if your opponent closes the gap so easily??? It's a really weak argument. Hatton smothers and closes distance in a way that Pac hasn't really had to deal with before. Added to that is the fact Hatton is bigger, stronger and been hit by much harder punchers. Hatton has a much better chance than your ridiculous 1%. I would say at least 50%.
You are in for a rude awakening. At least I'm ready for the possibility that Hatton might not get it right. But I'm expecting Hatton to do very well. You are going to look a bigger fool than you already are when it's all over. 1% chance. That's just bloody stupid. :rolleyes:
Yep most Hatton opponents has longer arms than him by 1 or 2 inches but PAC has 5 inches longer arms than Hatton... Mayweather has 6 inches longer arms than Hatton...
I think it will be Hatton that be shocked, awed, surprised and confused when he will meet PAC inside the ring for the first time... Hope Hatton can adjust quickly in order to give at least a competitive rounds or else he'll be in for the worst beating in his life...
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You are overestimating Manny Pac and underestimating Ricky Hatton. I've really enjoyed seeing them together from the footage in the UK because it has only spelled it out more clearly that Hatton is a size above Manny. And I don't mean that Hatton is looking overweight, in fact he looks in fantastic shape this far out.
You state that Mayweather has considerably longer arms than Hatton, which is obvious. But Mayweather didn't beat Hatton because of that. Hatton was able to close the gap AT WILL. He will do the same against Manny. He was ineffective against Mayweather for other reasons, and Hatton seems to be totally aware of this. Reach and closing the gap will not be a definining element in this fight.
I expect Hatton to mix up his attacks and use his jab more. He will try and maul Manny on occasion and he will come in with greater head and upper body movement. Expect to see more combination punching and expect Hatton to have pretty fast hands too now that he is reducing the weight work and working the mitts more.
The very fact that you keep wittering about arm length shows that you don't know what you are talking about. There are other aspects that I am much more concerned about than that. And I'm glad to see you have made a prediction. With a 99% chance of winning I'm surprised you didn't also predict the actual time of stoppage in the 9th as well. And I bet you are wrong.
Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
Hatton maybe a very different animal than what PAC already faced in the past but PAC having 53 pro fights and 14 years in the business has mostly seen all the styles from one or the other of these 53 individual boxers... Hatton is also pretty experienced boxer and this fight may come down on who has more physical, mental and emotional advantages... This one I give to PAC...
PAC didn't enjoy this so much advantages in his recent big fights... Skills, varied offense, defense are all for PAC in my opinion... PAC with his speed, quickness, southpaw stance, boxing skills and athletic abilities will give all sorts of problems for Hatton...
I'm not worried at all for PAC in this fight... I was more worried going into the DelaHoya and Diaz fights...
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Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Hatton maybe a very different animal than what PAC already faced in the past but PAC having 53 pro fights and 14 years in the business has mostly seen all the styles from one or the other of these 53 individual boxers... Hatton is also pretty experienced boxer and this fight may come down on who has more physical, mental and emotional advantages... This one I give to PAC...
PAC didn't enjoy this so much advantages in his recent big fights... Skills, varied offense, defense are all for PAC in my opinion... PAC with his speed, quickness, southpaw stance, boxing skills and athletic abilities will give all sorts of problems for Hatton...
I'm not worried at all for PAC in this fight... I was more worried going into the DelaHoya and Diaz fights...
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You were more worried about David Diaz than you are about Hatton?? That speaks volumes. I admit that I thought the DLH fight was a concern. But when Manny weighs more than DLH it's obvious that something is amiss. Manny beat Diaz fair and square but that was to be expected. The Oscar fight was more spectacular, but he beat a shadow in there.
Now we will see what Manny does for the FIRST time outside of 130 pounds against a quality fighter still in his prime. You would be silly not to be worried. Hatton is a far sterner test than both of Pacs last two opponents.
Re: Hatton expecting to weigh 154lbs come fight night Vs Pac!!
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Hatton maybe a very different animal than what PAC already faced in the past but PAC having 53 pro fights and 14 years in the business has mostly seen all the styles from one or the other of these 53 individual boxers... Hatton is also pretty experienced boxer and this fight may come down on who has more physical, mental and emotional advantages... This one I give to PAC...
PAC didn't enjoy this so much advantages in his recent big fights... Skills, varied offense, defense are all for PAC in my opinion... PAC with his speed, quickness, southpaw stance, boxing skills and athletic abilities will give all sorts of problems for Hatton...
I'm not worried at all for PAC in this fight... I was more worried going into the DelaHoya and Diaz fights...
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You were more worried about David Diaz than you are about Hatton?? That speaks volumes. I admit that I thought the DLH fight was a concern. But when Manny weighs more than DLH it's obvious that something is amiss. Manny beat Diaz fair and square but that was to be expected. The Oscar fight was more spectacular, but he beat a shadow in there.
Now we will see what Manny does for the FIRST time outside of 130 pounds against a quality fighter still in his prime. You would be silly not to be worried. Hatton is a far sterner test than both of Pacs last two opponents.
Back in June last year, the fight infront of PAC is David Diaz, a tough LW champ with lots of heart and guts... There's no Hoya or Hatton or Cotto at that time... Since it will be PAC's first fight in a new weight division (135), I have that little worry on how PAC perform at this new weight... Then came Hoya at 147... Again a little worry on how PAC perform and takes shots from the giant Hoya as everybody gave the smaller PAC no chance at all to defeat the giant Hoya...
Now comes Hatton at 140... I already saw how PAC performed at 147 and I'm convinced that he still carries substantial speed and power at 147 to be effective. I'm just looking at PAC's performance alone without considering his opponent and the outcome of that fight... And to add, PAC been regularly sparring with middleweights and welterweights in his preparation for the Hoya fight...
So far for this Hatton fight, no worries at all mate (I dunno why ;) )...
This is really what I felt before the Diaz fight, before the Hoya fight and now the Hatton fight... Anyway, this is only my own opinion mate...
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