Barrera, 'I'm a Much Better Fighter Than Amir Khan'

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Barrera is gonna get stopped. I know it.

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you also make David Haye out to be the next Joe Louis, soooo don't really know if i can take you serious.......you seem to have a soft spot for the chinny guys huh!?! first Haye and now Khan, guess it's just a matter of time, till you start sayin Zab is gonna regain his undisputed crown at 140 :rolleyes:

As a loooong time reader and lurker here on these forums, ive been reading the vitriol against Khan for the past few weeks and really want him to pull out the win. I just dont get the hate Khan recieves, fair enough his opposition hasnt been of a high enough standard for my liking but people seem to forget the kids still young, why rush him ? So first up reasons i like Khan:

He's an exciting fighter, i havent seen a modern fighter throw those lighting combo's in a long time and his matches are always entertaining for the crowd. In fact the least entertaining of them all against Gary st. Clair is oddly the one he gets the most credit for. He's a nice lad, not the brightest fair enough but a nice lad all the same, some people on here *cough* ICB *cough* seem to want to make him out to be the devil incarnate. So what if he's got a glass chin, hes got speed and power which makes for great entertainment ! I can understand people wanting MAB to win, he's a living legend and youve followed his careers for a long time but his time is gone and its time, for the good of boxing as a whole to get some young blood on the scene to liven things up. The venemous attacks on Khan on this forum have in my opinion seriously devalued it, as brought up in another thread i do believe his ethnicity is a factor in this. Never have i seen such a willfull hatred against a fighter here, and ive been browsing for a good few years now.

Secondly why i think he'll beat Barrera. He is fast, very fast. barrera while not "shot" is not the fighter he once was and Khan has good stamina too, can the same be said for MAB at this stage of his career ? As another person mentioned earlier MAB's KO ratio has not exactly been stellar of late. I personally think people really underestimate khan's talent due to the hype backlash, you really think Roach would have taken him on if he wasnt championship material and do you really think those rounds of sparing with the Pacman wouldnt have done him the world of good ? Ok i know its only 1 fight and i was against poor opposition but Khans defence looked much much better against Fagan, keeping a high guard and tucking up nicely.

So there's my 2 cents and ill be cheering for Khan all the way and hopes he goes on to become a big factor in the lightweight division. MAB's had a great career, is an absolute legend and personally am a fan but his time is gone, its time to pass the torch on to the next generation and for MAB to retire gracefully before he starts to damage his health.

Well, a bit long but ive been reading a lot of the topics aboutt this matchup on here and is this is something i actually have knowledge about decided to put in one of my very rare posts. Thats my 2 cents and personally i cant wait, a real cracker this ones gonna be methinks!

It's a 50/50 fight for me. On paper...Khan has all the big advantages: youth, size, speed. But you can never discount experience...and Marco is one of the most skilled, intelligent, and craftiest fighters in the history of the sport. This will be the first time Khan will be in a truly big fight. As much as i admire Khan's POTENTIAL...the most startling thing i see in his fights...he is not a smart fighter. Add to that his very suspect jaw...and he doesn't exactly inspire confidence. That all being said...Barrera has been in so many wars. Is he shot...no. But he clearly isn't at his best anymore. If Khan fights smart and asserts his physical advantages...Marco could be in trouble. But if Khan is hesitant and doesn't assert himself...a fighter with Barrera's incredible experience will make him pay. Hopefully it's an exciting fight.

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Originally Posted by 1-hit Wonder

As a loooong time reader and lurker here on these forums, ive been reading the vitriol against Khan for the past few weeks and really want him to pull out the win. I just dont get the hate Khan recieves, fair enough his opposition hasnt been of a high enough standard for my liking but people seem to forget the kids still young, why rush him ? So first up reasons i like Khan:

He's an exciting fighter, i havent seen a modern fighter throw those lighting combo's in a long time and his matches are always entertaining for the crowd. In fact the least entertaining of them all against Gary st. Clair is oddly the one he gets the most credit for. He's a nice lad, not the brightest fair enough but a nice lad all the same, some people on here *cough* ICB *cough* seem to want to make him out to be the devil incarnate. So what if he's got a glass chin, hes got speed and power which makes for great entertainment ! I can understand people wanting MAB to win, he's a living legend and youve followed his careers for a long time but his time is gone and its time, for the good of boxing as a whole to get some young blood on the scene to liven things up. The venemous attacks on Khan on this forum have in my opinion seriously devalued it, as brought up in another thread i do believe his ethnicity is a factor in this. Never have i seen such a willfull hatred against a fighter here, and ive been browsing for a good few years now.

Secondly why i think he'll beat Barrera. He is fast, very fast. barrera while not "shot" is not the fighter he once was and Khan has good stamina too, can the same be said for MAB at this stage of his career ? As another person mentioned earlier MAB's KO ratio has not exactly been stellar of late. I personally think people really underestimate khan's talent due to the hype backlash, you really think Roach would have taken him on if he wasnt championship material and do you really think those rounds of sparing with the Pacman wouldnt have done him the world of good ? Ok i know its only 1 fight and i was against poor opposition but Khans defence looked much much better against Fagan, keeping a high guard and tucking up nicely.

So there's my 2 cents and ill be cheering for Khan all the way and hopes he goes on to become a big factor in the lightweight division. MAB's had a great career, is an absolute legend and personally am a fan but his time is gone, its time to pass the torch on to the next generation and for MAB to retire gracefully before he starts to damage his health.

Well, a bit long but ive been reading a lot of the topics aboutt this matchup on here and is this is something i actually have knowledge about decided to put in one of my very rare posts. Thats my 2 cents and personally i cant wait, a real cracker this ones gonna be methinks!

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fair enough.

Trainers get paid win, lose or draw.

If you mean by 'liven things up' to mean expect him to get KTFO at any point then yes, I suppose he does.

'why rush him' I don't buy the fact of his age being a factor, there are many world class fighters who were much better boxers by his age, they also had one major advantage Khan will never have. A good chin. They also don't tend to say the silly things he has done..but Warren should be guarding against that rather than going for the any publicity is good publicity angle.

Fagan - the guy who had a broken ankle?

Sparring is sparring. Sparring IMO should be tailored towards who you are fighting. I don't see that PAC's style resembles Barrera in any form...ok maybe height.:cool:

MAB's KO% has not been great recently...doesn't really take in to account who those fights were against.

Khan will not be a major player in the lightweight division. Take a look at last weekends fight, do you see Khan being able to handle what the likes of Marquez or Diaz can bring? Maybe when Marquez is 40:cool:

p.s. Timing beats speed for an example go watch maquez vs diaz.

I don't know if people really dislike Khan that much or what but I am in the very small minority and think he will win convincingly. Barerra's style isn't built for a speedy athletic talent like Khan. Poison Jones did it twice even stopping him and Pac stopped Barerra. Barerra was in his prime then. Khan is not as bad as people lead it to be. Actually, he is quite talented. Maybe not to the point where his hype is/was but he will be the younger, taller, quicker, more athletic, bigger, and stronger fighter in that ring. Barerra's days maybe over and he is going to have to prove otherwise with all those disadvantages. I actually think Khan is taking on a great named fighter with not much left. Like Terry Norris vs. Sugar Ray. Khan knows this is a great move in his favor. I think it will take a knockout to spoil Khan's con job on this fight. I'd like him to take on up and comers in junior welterweight not older guys moving up.

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Originally Posted by blegit

I don't know if people really dislike Khan that much or what but I am in the very small minority and think he will win convincingly. Barerra's style isn't built for a speedy athletic talent like Khan. Poison Jones did it twice even stopping him and Pac stopped Barerra. Barerra was in his prime then. Khan is not as bad as people lead it to be. Actually, he is quite talented. Maybe not to the point where his hype is/was but he will be the younger, taller, quicker, more athletic, bigger, and stronger fighter in that ring. Barerra's days maybe over and he is going to have to prove otherwise with all those disadvantages. I actually think Khan is taking on a great named fighter with not much left. Like Terry Norris vs. Sugar Ray. Khan knows this is a great move in his favor. I think it will take a knockout to spoil Khan's con job on this fight. I'd like him to take on up and comers in junior welterweight not older guys moving up.

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I think 140 will be his division in the future. 135 is too stacked and he's a big lightweight. Apart from Pac-Hatton, there isn't anyone for him to fear at 140 in the forseable future....yes i still think he will be a world champion.

140 guys....Witter?

The only way khan has a chance of winning is to get on his bike for 12 rounds which im not sure he will be able to do against a fighter as a gd as barrera and he i dont think hell knock him out as the only way to do that is to swarm barrera like pac and jones did and beat him into submission which would leave khan open and although i sort of agree with everybody saying this is a must win fight for khan he is fighting a man whos only 2 loses in about the last decade were to the current no 1 nd no 2 p4p fighters in the world so even if he loses because of his name hell get another chance and if hes lucky hell get to fight a title holder like david diaz.