Klitschko vs Haye Collapsed AGAIN!!!

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Hayes team have always been decidedly dodgy to work with, wont see david fight now until the summer against a complete no mark and not after that until 2010

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Nobody should go near Haye. He isnt even very good anyway. MONTE BARRETT??!!

Haye is a poser looking for a big money deal and then a retirement home. Fook him! He isnt even worthy of a title shot anyway. Maybe Haye should find a different fight??? He wont, the prat. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

They easily trump Barrett and Bonin (:lolhaha:)

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How is a washed up ex-drug addict or some eastern European significantly better than Monte barrett?

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Cuz there better fighters. And neither has ever been knocked out by Cliff Couser

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Monte Barret is a pound for pound fighter compared to either of those guys.

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Originally Posted by ukansodoff

I want to see something official on this whole drama. Im strugglin to believe haye would throw away his dream chance by being over demanding, but this is whats being said and i want to know.

I cant see Vlad not wanting this fight, he has every rite to swat Haye away and tell him to earn his chance but looking at other opponants out there i think the only 1 that could generate more money is a fight with his own brother which clearly aint guna happen.

I have heard thats Haye is demanding way too much of the split, i want to know how much of the split cuz unless its something ridiculous he should take it with both hands. Im also hearing the Klitchkos are demanding allsorts of add ons and clauses be added to the contract and that these add ons are a bit of a joke which virtually adds up to if Haye wins hes not allowed to fight anybody but a Klitchko untill hes been beaten.

Im strugglin to believe this contract is so akward to sign or anytihng but i may be being biased towards my fellow country man but im putting the blame on the Klitchkos. But as i say i want to see something official so we know whats really goin on, either that or just cancel the bastard cuz yet again a build up to a fight is becomin some sort of circus farce.

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Haye met them in Germany and agreed 99% of a deal to fight Senior, who claimed at the time that a Haye fight was bigger than the WBC belt and if the WBC didn't sanction it he's drop the belt and fight Haye anyway. Then he had second thoughts and hid behing a mandatory challenger. Then Junior said he'd fight haye but has asked for more and more in the negotiations until the haye people realise he's never going to take the fight. Both Klitschkos have thus bottled out of fighting Haye.

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Originally Posted by ono

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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Not surprising.

What's the Klitchsko groupies excuse this time ? Cuz Golden Boy are doing the promoting on behalf of Haye now. So clearly Haye hasn't priced himself out or some shitt.

Klitchsko is afraid, simple as.

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If you really believe that Klitsckho is afraid of Haye, then your are disillusional, or just blinded by your man-crush on David Haye. Arreola is much harder fight.

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If you seriously think Arreola is a much harder fight then you are seriously delusional - not disillusional ;D

How can Haye have no leverage? Undisputed Cruiserweight champion. A much bigger name than Arreola.

The Klit's just want to take the easy fights against the slow overweight plodders who pose zero threat.....whilst taking 75% of the purse home with them. Can't blame them, it's business afterall.

Haye is quick enough and agile enough to make them fight rather than jab and hold their way to a UD.Haye is the only other heavyweight i can think of who is actually in fighting condition. The rest are a joke.

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Haye is probably just making such a scene cause he wants a rematch with Thompson.....a fight he'd probably lose again lol ;D

Anyone else sick of the Haye Klitscko scenario! I just wont to see Haye fight any1 in the top 10 now.

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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

work his way up the rankings (although seriously flawed rankings) and actually have a career at heavy lol, what the hell has Haye done to deserve a shot at either Klitschko, hell at any title at heavy?:-\

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So Oliver McCall and somebody called Vladimir Virchis are highly ranked heavyweights?

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Vladimir Virchis was a top 10 heavyweight in The Ring Magazine's ratings when Gomez beat him. A much more significant victory then over perennial trial horse Monte Barrat.

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That just shows how shit the heavyweight scene is and why a new exciting guy gets fast-tracked to the top.

Virchis top 10 is disturbing. British semi-journeyman Michael Sprott was robbed against him.

It's going to be very funny to see David Haye step up and fight some top heavyweight other than Wlad or Vitali....(perhaps someone like Maskaev, Rahman, or even someone good like Dimitrenko) and just watch Haye get torn apart.


I just want to watch David Haye get obliterated in the ring and replay it over and over and over again

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

How is a washed up ex-drug addict or some eastern European significantly better than Monte barrett?

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Cuz there better fighters. And neither has ever been knocked out by Cliff Couser

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Monte Barret is a pound for pound fighter compared to either of those guys.

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Pound for pound fighters don't get knocked out by Cliff Couser. Barrett stopping D level Ty Fields must of really impressed you

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Cuz there better fighters. And neither has ever been knocked out by Cliff Couser

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Monte Barret is a pound for pound fighter compared to either of those guys.

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Pound for pound fighters don't get knocked out by Cliff Couser. Barrett stopping D level Ty Fields must of really impressed you

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I'm still waiting for you to show me how washed up (ex) drug addict Oliver McCall is a significantly better opponent than Monte "Pound for Pound" Barrett.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Monte Barret is a pound for pound fighter compared to either of those guys.

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Pound for pound fighters don't get knocked out by Cliff Couser. Barrett stopping D level Ty Fields must of really impressed you

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I'm still waiting for you to show me how washed up (ex) drug addict Oliver McCall is a significantly better opponent than Monte "Pound for Pound" Barrett.

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LOL. You don't follow much Boxing do you? McCall even at his advance age and after years of abusing his body will always be a better fighter than Monte Barrett. McCall came into the Gomez fight 10-0 in his last 10 fights. Your pound for pound Barrett went into the Haye fight 5-5 in his last 10 fights. He had been knocked the fukk out in 3 of those fights. LOL. Real impressive stuff

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Pound for pound fighters don't get knocked out by Cliff Couser. Barrett stopping D level Ty Fields must of really impressed you

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I'm still waiting for you to show me how washed up (ex) drug addict Oliver McCall is a significantly better opponent than Monte "Pound for Pound" Barrett.

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LOL. You don't follow much Boxing do you? McCall even at his advance age and after years of abusing his body will always be a better fighter than Monte Barrett. McCall came into the Gomez fight 10-0 in his last 10 fights. Your pound for pound Barrett went into the Haye fight 5-5 in his last 10 fights. He had been knocked the fukk out in 3 of those fights. LOL. Real impressive stuff

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Almost every guy McCall fought out of ten had more losses than wins in his past few fights, the opposite with Barrett. Barret lost to guys like Valuev and Rahman and generally fought a far higher class of fighter than the club fighters McCall was beating. There's no question he was operating at a better level than bloody Oliver mcCall, so if beating McCall earns you a shot at the title then beating Barrett should do the same. It's not like the heavyweight division is overstocked with talent is it? If the Klitschkos did fight Haye it'd be the first live body either of them have been in with for years.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I'm still waiting for you to show me how washed up (ex) drug addict Oliver McCall is a significantly better opponent than Monte "Pound for Pound" Barrett.

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LOL. You don't follow much Boxing do you? McCall even at his advance age and after years of abusing his body will always be a better fighter than Monte Barrett. McCall came into the Gomez fight 10-0 in his last 10 fights. Your pound for pound Barrett went into the Haye fight 5-5 in his last 10 fights. He had been knocked the fukk out in 3 of those fights. LOL. Real impressive stuff

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Almost every guy McCall fought out of ten had more losses than wins in his past few fights, the opposite with Barrett. Barret lost to guys like Valuev and Rahman and generally fought a far higher class of fighter than the club fighters McCall was beating. There's no question he was operating at a better level than bloody Oliver mcCall, so if beating McCall earns you a shot at the title then beating Barrett should do the same. It's not like the heavyweight division is overstocked with talent is it? If the Klitschkos did fight Haye it'd be the first live body either of them have been in with for years.

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His eliminator was against Virches who was a legit contender; not McCall. ALthough you dont seem to care too much about being factual.

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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

LOL. You don't follow much Boxing do you? McCall even at his advance age and after years of abusing his body will always be a better fighter than Monte Barrett. McCall came into the Gomez fight 10-0 in his last 10 fights. Your pound for pound Barrett went into the Haye fight 5-5 in his last 10 fights. He had been knocked the fukk out in 3 of those fights. LOL. Real impressive stuff

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Almost every guy McCall fought out of ten had more losses than wins in his past few fights, the opposite with Barrett. Barret lost to guys like Valuev and Rahman and generally fought a far higher class of fighter than the club fighters McCall was beating. There's no question he was operating at a better level than bloody Oliver mcCall, so if beating McCall earns you a shot at the title then beating Barrett should do the same. It's not like the heavyweight division is overstocked with talent is it? If the Klitschkos did fight Haye it'd be the first live body either of them have been in with for years.

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His eliminator was against Virches who was a legit contender; not McCall. ALthough you dont seem to care too much about being factual.

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I didn't say it wasn't and if Virches is a legit contender for a title then so is David haye.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Almost every guy McCall fought out of ten had more losses than wins in his past few fights, the opposite with Barrett. Barret lost to guys like Valuev and Rahman and generally fought a far higher class of fighter than the club fighters McCall was beating. There's no question he was operating at a better level than bloody Oliver mcCall, so if beating McCall earns you a shot at the title then beating Barrett should do the same. It's not like the heavyweight division is overstocked with talent is it? If the Klitschkos did fight Haye it'd be the first live body either of them have been in with for years.

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His eliminator was against Virches who was a legit contender; not McCall. ALthough you dont seem to care too much about being factual.

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I didn't say it wasn't and if Virches is a legit contender for a title then so is David haye.

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Based on what? I'm not sure what exactly it is Barrett has over you. But you need to look at facts. He's a shot fighter who in his prime lost every big fight he was in. Beating him means nothing.

Pity Oliver Mcall isnt fighting i think he'd be a good tune up for Haye. True heavyweight power and chin.