Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

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04-09-2009, 01:34 AM
CGM

Re: Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

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Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins

I just have never been able to get over those last few rounds in with Tito.Man looked spectacular but closed shop before the final bell,took it all for granted.Might be unfair but I think he earned that loss.Had Mosley taking it in 1st and 2nd.Thought Lampleys call of the 2nd was one of the most biased I have heard.It was sickning.He was boxing well but Mosley was moving him,having much more effect I believe.Favorite was his scrap with Quartey.He went all out.What a fight that was.

:) nah, maybe he deserved the loss against Tito, but he earned the win.
04-09-2009, 01:44 AM
ElTerribleMorales

Re: Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

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Originally Posted by CGM

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Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins

I just have never been able to get over those last few rounds in with Tito.Man looked spectacular but closed shop before the final bell,took it all for granted.Might be unfair but I think he earned that loss.Had Mosley taking it in 1st and 2nd.Thought Lampleys call of the 2nd was one of the most biased I have heard.It was sickning.He was boxing well but Mosley was moving him,having much more effect I believe.Favorite was his scrap with Quartey.He went all out.What a fight that was.

:) nah, maybe he deserved the loss against Tito, but he earned the win.

i had DLH winning all 3 fights, Trinidad, Mosley II, and Quartey
04-09-2009, 10:04 AM
Mr140

Re: Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

I cant imagine any other mexican fighter that fought Oscar competion would of lost most to almost all of them i while go as far to say. That Barrea, Morles, and Chavaz fought pound for pound against Mosley, Mayweather, and Bernard they would lose in a way worse fashion. Even with his loses Oscar still has beaten more top guys then any mexican and has captured more titles in different weight classes as well you look at all the mexicans records and even with his loses Oscar still has the best one.
04-09-2009, 04:46 PM
Master

Re: Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

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Oscar is a bit like Nike, all show and no substance. He has lost the major fights in his career and his best fight was against Vargas.

Disagree. I thought his best fight was against Trinidad, he really boxed circles around him. Even when DLH was gassed in the last few rounds, Trinidad couldn't really touch him. DLH was very good in the second fight against Mosely also. Same thing, he was gassed in the last couple rounds but still outboxed him on the whole. He's had some bad luck with the decisions.

Oscar has had his gifts as well, Strum being the best example. No way can ODH compete with JCC, MAB and Morales.
04-09-2009, 05:54 PM
ElTerribleMorales

Re: Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

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Oscar is a bit like Nike, all show and no substance. He has lost the major fights in his career and his best fight was against Vargas.

Disagree. I thought his best fight was against Trinidad, he really boxed circles around him. Even when DLH was gassed in the last few rounds, Trinidad couldn't really touch him. DLH was very good in the second fight against Mosely also. Same thing, he was gassed in the last couple rounds but still outboxed him on the whole. He's had some bad luck with the decisions.

Oscar has had his gifts as well, Strum being the best example. No way can ODH compete with JCC, MAB and Morales.

i'm sure you mean Sturm ;D haha and what fighter hasn't had gifts? I thought Morales got lucky with the first fight against Guty Espadas, Chavez was given a gift draw against Whitaker, and Barrera was given a gift in his 2nd fight against Morales

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1) Oscar is not a Mexican

2) JCC is

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umm Oscar's parents were both Mexican immigrants just cause he was born in the US doesn't make him less Mexican, hell Margarito was born in the Torrance, CA, USA, i guess he's not considered to be a Mexican fighter either :rolleyes:
04-09-2009, 06:06 PM
Spicoli

Re: Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by CGM

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Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins

I just have never been able to get over those last few rounds in with Tito.Man looked spectacular but closed shop before the final bell,took it all for granted.Might be unfair but I think he earned that loss.Had Mosley taking it in 1st and 2nd.Thought Lampleys call of the 2nd was one of the most biased I have heard.It was sickning.He was boxing well but Mosley was moving him,having much more effect I believe.Favorite was his scrap with Quartey.He went all out.What a fight that was.

:) nah, maybe he deserved the loss against Tito, but he earned the win.

i had DLH winning all 3 fights, Trinidad, Mosley II, and Quartey

I had him 1-1-1 in that trio. Draw with Tito,Loss to Mosley and had him by a hair over Ike.He caught alot of names at the exact right time...and weight.Shite....I thought Genaro Hernandez would beat him...whoops:-X
04-09-2009, 06:16 PM
Mccthh

Re: Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

To my mind Julio Cesar Chavez is the finest Mexican fighter ever, but it is close; how close? The kid from Culiacan gets the nod by about two seconds. ;)

My top 10:

10 Erik Morales
9 Vicente Saldivar
8 Lupe Pintor
7 Salvador Sanchez
6 Marco Antonio Barrera
5 Jose Napoles (Adopted Mexico as his own country; Cuban by birth)
4 Ricardo Lopez
3 Ruben Olivares
2 Carlos Zarate
1 Julio Cesar Chavez

Mentions to: Humberto Gonzales, Miguel Canto, Rodolfo Martinez, Alfonso Zamora, Daniel Zaragoza, Joe Rivers, Baby Arizmendi, Chalky Wright, Manuel Medina, Rafael Limon, Jose Luis Ramirez and Jose Luis Castillo.
04-09-2009, 06:32 PM
ElTerribleMorales

Re: Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

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Originally Posted by Mccthh

To my mind Julio Cesar Chavez is the finest Mexican fighter ever, but it is close; how close? The kid from Culiacan gets the nod by about two seconds. ;)

My top 10:

10 Erik Morales
9 Vicente Saldivar
8 Lupe Pintor
7 Salvador Sanchez
6 Marco Antonio Barrera
5 Jose Napoles (Adopted Mexico as his own country; Cuban by birth)
4 Ricardo Lopez
3 Ruben Olivares
2 Carlos Zarate
1 Julio Cesar Chavez

Mentions to: Humberto Gonzales, Miguel Canto, Rodolfo Martinez, Alfonso Zamora, Daniel Zaragoza, Joe Rivers, Baby Arizmendi, Chalky Wright, Manuel Medina, Rafael Limon, Jose Luis Ramirez and Jose Luis Castillo.

what about Pipino Cuevas, Kid Azteca, and Jorge Paez?
01-10-2010, 04:00 PM
X

Re: Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

Talking about Mexicans ......What do mexicans have under their floorboards?

Underlay Underlay.

;D
01-10-2010, 05:28 PM
sumkalambay

Re: Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

It's not even debatable IMO. Julio Cesar Chavez beat much much better competition and just looked better than Finito.
01-10-2010, 05:36 PM
JazMerkin

Re: Inarguably the best boxer of Mexican descent

Lopez is the best for me, although a fight with Carbajal or Gonzalez would have gone some way to confirm that for me. I also rate Salvador Sanchez & maybe Zarate above him. Although Chavez had the best resume

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