I think PAC dominates Tsysu but the sad truth is. We will never know for sure. :(
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I think PAC dominates Tsysu but the sad truth is. We will never know for sure. :(
point is, none of them, including Manny win, only cause they have Roach in their cornerQuote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Vazquez improved dramatically under Roach, Hopkins beat Calzaghe, and Penalosa never stood a chacne against Lopez.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesyour trainer can only take you so far, and if having Roach in your corner is a reason for winning a fight WTF happened when he trained...Quote:
Originally Posted by Quinito
De La Hoya for Mayweather
B-Hop for Calzaghe
Penalosa for Lopez
Vazquez for R. Marquez (first fight, seeing how i believe Vazquez changed trainers after that fight)
etc.
in a nutshell, Mickey Rourke is still making movies for a reason...
don't kid yourself Tszyu is a top 5 junior welter ATG, and IMO one of the best counter punchers ever, it would be a tough fight but i see him tagging Manny with the right all night, and yea Kostya was no spring chicken when he fought Hatton, and gettin his balls bashed didn't help much eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Steelhammer
You can add the Barrera fight as well. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by KananKrus
At that late stage yes but we are talking about in their prime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. SteelhammerYou are pin pointing Roach's bad moments which is not fair and erelevant to the discussion. Those guys that you mentioned are no Manny Pacquiao.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesyour trainer can only take you so far, and if having Roach in your corner is a reason for winning a fight WTF happened when he trained...Quote:
Originally Posted by Quinito
De La Hoya for Mayweather
B-Hop for Calzaghe
Penalosa for Lopez
Vazquez for R. Marquez (first fight, seeing how i believe Vazquez changed trainers after that fight)
etc.
in a nutshell, Mickey Rourke is still making movies for a reason...
don't kid yourself Tszyu is a top 5 junior welter ATG, and IMO one of the best counter punchers ever, it would be a tough fight but i see him tagging Manny with the right all night, and yea Kostya was no spring chicken when he fought Hatton, and gettin his balls bashed didn't help much eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Steelhammer
Tyszu never fought someone like Pacquiao, who moves a lot, with blinding speed and undeniable power. Kostya wasn't a flashy quick counterpuncher. Pac would make him quit on his stool faster than Hatton did.
That is a 'no he wouldnt'.
Wow Jaz, you got me there haha, I mean I have no comeback to 11 year old cutdowns from a boy who watches all the HBO fights on youtube cause mommy won't order for you, gee wilikers there must be inbreeding somewhere but as far as I know me and your mom are in no way related! Not sure who it was but anyone saying Kostya would dominate Pac in four rounds is indeed a cutdown to Pacs ability, and besides thats total BS! I know I sound like a broken record and maybe its just me but I don't see how anyone can have a legit argument that Kostya's opponets pound for pound are as high a caliber as Pacquiao's?
Good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by KananKrus
That's why I don't involved much in fantasy match-up discussions coz we will never know the real outcome... It's nice to discuss but not much of real use...;)
I prefer to discuss upcoming actual fights...
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In their prime ;
I cant see Manny overwhelming him early so if he was going to win, it would be by belting him stupid late.
Tszyu could time stuff comming at him, Manny would get hit with big shots over that time which would equal the fight out in Manny some what, later in the game.
Manny on points if he lasts or a Tszyu stoppage 45/55.
yeah, and it's funny how some would get annoyed when people disagree with them. it's just opinions folks as much as opposing opinions in this case are just that. this is actually useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by QuinitoGood point.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by KananKrus
That's why I don't involved much in fantasy match-up discussions coz we will never know the real outcome... It's nice to discuss but not much of real use...;)
I prefer to discuss upcoming actual fights...
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Oh levi, you're just too damn quick for me :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan
You're undoubtedly a bigger boxing fan than me, because its says you're the #1 boxing fan in your name. I'm curious as to how you watched the Pacquiao-Hatton fight? Me? I was in the Grand watching it live, so no I don't need 'mommy' to pay for me to watch it on HBO.
You go for the obvious 'I did your mum' comment, which again shows a truly staggering level of maturity. I mean that's not even clever. I'm going at your mental capacity & your inability to adequately interact on a social level with other posters (stop me when you get confused) as you demonstrate by not being able to read other what other people are actually saying & taking it as an assault on your beloved Pac. You then throw your toys out the pram when anyone says Tszyu might win. I don't care if you think Pacquiao beats Ray Robinson, Marvin Hagler & Muhammad Ali at the same time, its your opinion.
Now overall, I think Pacquiao is a greater boxer than Tszyu by quite some way, but at 140 Tszyu was the man, and I think he would have had the better of Pacquiao at the weight. You appear to know nothing about Tszyu and you completely dismiss anything he has done, and the fact you think that paying for fights makes you a fan says a lot.
In discussing upcoming fights, you may sound a total moron and delusional before a fight and then hailed like a genius or a Nostradamus after the fight...;DQuote:
Originally Posted by KKisseryeah, and it's funny how some would get annoyed when people disagree with them. it's just opinions folks as much as opposing opinions in this case are just that. this is actually useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by QuinitoGood point.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
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Go away!! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerIn discussing upcoming fights, you may sound a total moron and delusional before a fight and then hailed like a genius or a Nostradamus after the fight...;DQuote:
Originally Posted by KKisseryeah, and it's funny how some would get annoyed when people disagree with them. it's just opinions folks as much as opposing opinions in this case are just that. this is actually useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quinito
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:p;D
THREAD : Who wins in their primes TSYU or Pacquiao
PAC HATER : Tsyu kayoes him in 4
PAC NUTS : NO. Pac kayoes him
PAC HATER: WTF?! why do you think PAC cant be beaten? you know nothing about boxing.
OUTCOME : NOTHING Fight is not happening :(
THREAD : DLH v Pac
PAC HATER : DLH is too big, one left hook ends it
PAC NUTS : pac beats him and proly stops him late
PAC HATER : WTF??!! you're DELUSIONAL you know nothing about boxing.
OUTCOME : ;)
THREAD : Hatton v Pac
PAC HATER : Hatton is too big and strong, Hatton wins by KO
PAC NUTS : Hatton wont touch pac. Pac by KO
PAC HATER : !!??!! Hatton fights at 140 forever manny hasnt faced anything like him. hatton is just too big. You know shit about boxing
OUTCOME : ;)
In fantasy even Levinston Brumble can beat Pacquiao.
I can beat Manny Pac and I'm not even in my Prime!! :D
:pQuote:
Originally Posted by milesGo away!! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerIn discussing upcoming fights, you may sound a total moron and delusional before a fight and then hailed like a genius or a Nostradamus after the fight...;DQuote:
Originally Posted by KKisser
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:p;D
There's only oneeeeeeeee Ricky Hatton (my **** ) .... :p (joke)
;D I'm going ..... away ...
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You know I'm just kidding with you. Still feeling a bit sheepish about getting so excited about the Hatton fight and it all being over so early, that's all! ;);DQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer:pQuote:
Originally Posted by milesGo away!! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
:p;D
There's only oneeeeeeeee Ricky Hatton (my **** ) .... :p (joke)
;D I'm going ..... away ...
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