Re: Mosley: I want Pacman now!
Shane wont follow Marquez' gameplan. He is better than Marquez.
Heres a guy who had a sucessful gameplan vs Pac
Any man who knocks out Manny Pacquiao is guaranteed riches beyond their wildest dreams but the last man to do it is earning a living on Thailand's domestic circuit for around 20,000 baht a fight.
MEMORY MAN: Medgoen racks up another win.
Ten years ago, in the south of Thailand, Medgoen Singsurat (who is now fighting under the name Medgoen Kratingdaenggym) stopped Pacquiao with body shots to win the WBC flyweight title.
It was the last time the Filipino - who lost his belt on the scales after failing to make weight - was beaten inside the distance and Medgoen said he even he had been surprised to overcome the red-hot rising star.
"Before the fight I didn't think I was going to win," said Medgoen, who is also 30 like Manny.
"He came to Thailand in 1998 and knocked out Chatchai Sasakul to win the belt and had looked impressive.
"My promoter Virat Vachirarattanawong got me a shot because he still had an option on Pacquiao so that is how I got my chance."
When the pair met, the Filipino was 26-1 while Medgoen was 18-0.
Yet despite his impressive ledger, the honest Thai said he realised why he was a big underdog for the fight as soon as he got a close look at his rival.
"He looked very big to me and I was worried about fighting him," said Medgoen.
"While I was warming up on the pads before the fight my trainer was telling me that I could win by knockout but I didn't think that was true.
"I knew he was tight at the weight and Virat said that I should be confident in myself and not to give Manny any room to set himself up for his left hand."
Despite all the advice, Medgoen told how his plans came crashing back to reality in the first round.
"I decided to be aggressive with him and started trading punches but he quickly caught me with a left hand to the head and it hurt me badly.
"He hit me so hard I went dizzy and I was surprised that one punch had done that to me.
"I just tried to cover up to make sure that he didn't do that to me again."
After composing himself during the break, Medgoen targeted Manny's body in an effort to slow him down and said he felt that the champion was deliberately moving away to avoid the shots.
"That gave me a lot of confidence because I knew the punches were hurting him," Medgoen explained.
"I kept it up in the third round and in the middle of the session I caught up with him and fired a combination to the body and he went down heavily.
"He appeared to be listening to the count but he was breathing deeply.
"I stood in the neutral corner thinking "don't get up!"
"He couldn't beat the count and the fight was over, I couldn't believe it and I was so happy. It was my dream come true."
After the fight, Pacquiao immediately moved up to super-bantamweight. His only other defeat until now came against Erik Morales on points four years ago.
Manny has gone on to superstardom while life has turned out very differently for the man who beat him that afternoon in provincial Thailand.
Medgoen made a successful first defence against Masaki Kawabata but was then stopped by Malcolm Tunacao to lose the WBC flyweight title.
Today he has an impressive-looking tally of 62-5 but has never managed to get back into the big time.
He was blasted out by Jorge Arce inside a round in November 2007 but mainly fights just for a pay day.
On Friday he outpointed novice Wanpadejseuk Sithsaithong on the undercard of Oledong Sithersamerchai's WBC strawweight title defence against Muhammad Rachman.
The father of one daughter doesn't feel bitter about how things turned out and instead wishes Pacquiao all the best.
"I watch his fights now and I want him to do well," said Medgoen.
"It is good to see an Asian boxer make such a big impact on the world.
"But whatever he does during his boxing career I know that he will always remember my name and what happened when we met 10 years ago."
Re: Mosley: I want Pacman now!
Mosley's desperate for one more legacy-defining, money-making fight before his career ends, and I don't blame him. I also think he honestly feels he's got the tools to beat Pac, and I can't blame him for that either. This would be a fight between two fighters I like and admire, although I must admit to wanting Cotto fight Pacquiao first.
:)
Re: Mosley: I want Pacman now!
Anyone who brings up the two losses early in Pac's career in trying to figure out how to beat him today is just wishfully thinking.
Pac is nowhere near the same fighter he was back then. Even the version of Pacquiao that Morales outboxed is completely different from what he is now.
Re: Mosley: I want Pacman now!
Man! I totally forgot about Nazim Richardson and Bernard Hopkins training Shane Mosley :o! I suddenly have that much more confidence in Mosley
Re: Mosley: I want Pacman now!
I understand that mosley can possibly end up drained at 142 but i know that he has a great chin and i dont see Pac beating Mosley. Mosley has so much power and maybe i'm wrong but i see Mosley winning
Re: Mosley: I want Pacman now!
Pacquiao would be a bit nuts to fight Mosley at 147 with a possible Mayweather fight out there. Oscar was a calculated risk but Floyd's a bigger fight than Mosley and Mosley's a true welter, a much bigger guy who'd be probably ten or so pounds more on fight night.
I don't know how much 145 would effect Mosley (142's bad news almost certainly). Anyway if it happened at 145 no matter how Mosley loooked if Pac won people would just say it was because of the weight.
Re: Mosley: I want Pacman now!
Pac-Mosely @ 144 is a fair match-up. 147 is a huge disadvantage for Pac.
Re: Mosley: I want Pacman now!
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mosley is way past his prime, he has nothing to prove and will not prove nothing cuz all the top boxers in his division will eat him alive. mayweather, hatton, or paul williams would eat this guy for lunch any day of the week and thats why he is ducking and dodgeing all those opponents. you dont see him trying to fight them. trust me i know what im talking about, im an ametuer boxing and i have great boxing knowledege. so all ya'll cant question a thing i say.
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PrettyBoyFloyd712
mosley is way past his prime, he has nothing to prove and will not prove nothing cuz all the top boxers in his division will eat him alive. mayweather, hatton, or paul williams would eat this guy for lunch any day of the week and thats why he is ducking and dodgeing all those opponents. you dont see him trying to fight them. trust me i know what im talking about, im an ametuer boxing and i have great boxing knowledege. so all ya'll cant question a thing i say.
Yea...this thread is over...
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Originally Posted by
PrettyBoyFloyd712
mosley is way past his prime, he has nothing to prove and will not prove nothing cuz all the top boxers in his division will eat him alive. mayweather, hatton, or paul williams would eat this guy for lunch any day of the week and thats why he is ducking and dodgeing all those opponents. you dont see him trying to fight them. trust me i know what im talking about, im an ametuer boxing and i have great boxing knowledege. so all ya'll cant question a thing i say.
Yea...this thread is over...
but did it have to be my thread... :(
Re: Mosley: I want Pacman now!
Folks,
I don't think Shane Mosley is in the same boat as B-Hops.... I'm talking about hanging on a world class level until he's well into 40s...... In my book, Shane Mosley should retire right now, however, since he's going through a divorce, he'll probably stay active until he finds out how much his ex-wife will milk him for... But, he is connected to Golden Boy Prodictions, so money is still coming in.... Shane Mosley needs to look at his options, but I feel his fighting days are coming to an end soon....
MR.BILL
USA
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MRBILL
Folks,
I don't think Shane Mosley is in the same boat as B-Hops.... I'm talking about hanging on a world class level until he's well into 40s...... In my book, Shane Mosley should retire right now, however, since he's going through a divorce, he'll probably stay active until he finds out how much his ex-wife will milk him for... But, he is connected to Golden Boy Prodictions, so money is still coming in.... Shane Mosley needs to look at his options, but I feel his fighting days are coming to an end soon....
MR.BILL
USA
Damn it!, maybe that's why Mosley beat the Sh*t out of Margarito!
You think he'll still carry anger that if he fights Pacquiao? Oh Sh*t! since he's still going through the divorce will the ex have claim to his new money?:sick2:
