My Top 30 p4p

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Originally Posted by Julius Rain

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

sorry buddy unlike you my knowledge in boxing doesn't only range to the flavor of the month guys like you, who basically has pretty much any asian fighter's nut on tap, name one fighter on that list who hasn't accomplished more or isn't a bigger force than Donaire

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your knowledge in boxing doesn't exist, you prove that in each of your post. your in high school, focus on that.

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No wonder all of his posts are a bunch of incoherent bullshit. The f-ucker is still living with his parents and probably has to ask for permission to use the internet which they pay for.

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hahahaha truely pathetic, unlike you buddy i have a career, unlike you i don't work for someone else, unlike you i don't work for minimum wage, unlike you i don't have to bend over backwords looking for streams for the BIG fights cause i can actually afford to pay the $60 bucks to watch it live in HD ;), and look back at your history you said the same damn thing bout Donaire

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post775259

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

Donaire has failed to live up to expectations after the Vic fight, I can understand the occasional 1 or 2 easy fight, but come on it's been 2 years already since he beat Vic, it's time to step up your game.

Just imagine if Pacquiao after his victory over Barrera fought nothing but bums for 2 to 3 years. That's Donaire.

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so fack off ;D

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

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Originally Posted by Julius Rain

your knowledge in boxing doesn't exist, you prove that in each of your post. your in high school, focus on that.

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No wonder all of his posts are a bunch of incoherent bullshit. The f-ucker is still living with his parents and probably has to ask for permission to use the internet which they pay for.

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hahahaha truely pathetic, unlike you buddy i have a career, unlike you i don't work for someone else, unlike you i don't work for minimum wage, unlike you i don't have to bend over backwords looking for streams for the BIG fights cause i can actually afford to pay the $60 bucks to watch it live in HD ;), and look back at your history you said the same damn thing bout Donaire

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post775259

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

Donaire has failed to live up to expectations after the Vic fight, I can understand the occasional 1 or 2 easy fight, but come on it's been 2 years already since he beat Vic, it's time to step up your game.

Just imagine if Pacquiao after his victory over Barrera fought nothing but bums for 2 to 3 years. That's Donaire.

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so fack off ;D

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This is the f-ucking internet, almost anyone can bullshit about how successful they are or be an internet warrior.

ANd what's your point bringing up one of my old posts? That I don't rate Donaire highly? I never did say I like him as a fighter. Keep on trying son.

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

No wonder all of his posts are a bunch of incoherent bullshit. The f-ucker is still living with his parents and probably has to ask for permission to use the internet which they pay for.

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hahahaha truely pathetic, unlike you buddy i have a career, unlike you i don't work for someone else, unlike you i don't work for minimum wage, unlike you i don't have to bend over backwords looking for streams for the BIG fights cause i can actually afford to pay the $60 bucks to watch it live in HD ;), and look back at your history you said the same damn thing bout Donaire

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post775259

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

Donaire has failed to live up to expectations after the Vic fight, I can understand the occasional 1 or 2 easy fight, but come on it's been 2 years already since he beat Vic, it's time to step up your game.

Just imagine if Pacquiao after his victory over Barrera fought nothing but bums for 2 to 3 years. That's Donaire.

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so fack off ;D

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This is the f-ucking internet, almost anyone can bullshit about how successful they are or be an internet warrior.

ANd what's your point bringing up one of my old posts? That I don't rate Donaire highly? I never did say I like him as a fighter. Keep on trying son.

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read what the topic of the thread is dipshit lol

and yea have a degree in culinary arts, run my own successful catering company, and yea you're right bout anyone bein able to be an internet warrior, you're pretty much a clean cut example of the queer shit, get your head out the toilet buddy

and second off, i'm seriously just gonna leave it there i'm here to talk about boxing, and not this little kid bullshit you queers are coming up with, any other day and i would have reduced you to the naive little cunt$ that you both are but well gonna keep the main board clean, you two put Danny G to shame lol

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Originally Posted by Julius Rain

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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ancient? this was just a few months back.

pathetic? you talked out of your ass like always and i called you out on it. You yourself made this thread but failed to provide a top 30. Then you back peddle, reducing your comment to you didn't really mean donaire wasnt top 30.

At when did this become a topic about if donaire deserves to be top 10? Dont switch up the subject now cause this was suppose to be you providing 30 fighters that are p4p better than donaire. not top 10. 30! SO FAR YOU GOT TO 18....you wanna keep trying or you gonna admit your full of shit?

remember you created this thread not me, buddy ;)

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face of boxing has completely changed, and it'd be even easier to put 30 other fighter ahead of Donaire p4p :rolleyes:

and here it is, and the explanation is simple they all have accomplished more than Donaire, who's nowhere close to being anything p4p

1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather Jr
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Shane Mosley
5. Bernard Hopkins
6. Miguel Cotto
7. Paul Williams
8. Wladimir Klitschko
9. Vitali Klitschko
10.Hozumi Hasegawa
11.Ivan Calderon
12.Rafael Marquez
13.Chad Dawson
14.Fernando Montiel
15.Vic Darchinyan
16.Israel Vazquez
17.Mikkel Kessler
18.Kelly Pavlik
19.Arthur Abraham
20.Edgar Sosa
21.Tomasz Adamek
22.Carl Froch
23.Timothy Bradley
24.Jorge Linares
25.Chris John
26.Jermain Taylor
27.Brian Viloria
28.Lucian Butte
29.Glen Johnson
30.Celestino Caballero

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:vd: :lol:

You really think those 30 are p4p better then Donaire? or you just posted 30 boxers you have heard of :lolhaha:

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LOL. Stop the hating Elterrible. We can understand that Donaire's position in the top 10 p4p is somewhat questionable but to list 20 more fighters (some are definitely not worth mentioning) above him so you can justify the title of this thread is childish.:-X

I would just like to say that this has been a very entertaining thread to read. Thanks guys! ;D

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by Julius Rain

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

sorry buddy unlike you my knowledge in boxing doesn't only range to the flavor of the month guys like you, who basically has pretty much any asian fighter's nut on tap, name one fighter on that list who hasn't accomplished more or isn't a bigger force than Donaire

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your knowledge in boxing doesn't exist, you prove that in each of your post. your in high school, focus on that.

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this coming from the guy who bitches and moans whenever someone says Pacquiao doesn't belong anywhere near the top 10 p4p ATG, stop beating around the bush and answer the question, what the hell has Donaire done to be on any p4p list? and buddy i'm no kid, i'm not lefty hahahaha

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ok find me a post that I react that way whenever someone says pac doesn't belong anywhere near top 10 ATG. Go ahead and further prove how full of shit you are

Donaire has displayed superior skills over his oppenents and outboxed and put to sleep a dangerous hard to figure out fighter you rank top 15. Donaire hasn't lost in 8 years, has won 20 straight bouts and his only lost was his second fight via decision when he was 18 years old. His only 26 right now and has plenty of time to add to his resume.

Let me ask you before I dismantle any credential you have left, are you completely serious at this list of yours? I was looking at it and realize it has got to be a joke.

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Originally Posted by Julius Rain

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by Julius Rain

your knowledge in boxing doesn't exist, you prove that in each of your post. your in high school, focus on that.

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this coming from the guy who bitches and moans whenever someone says Pacquiao doesn't belong anywhere near the top 10 p4p ATG, stop beating around the bush and answer the question, what the hell has Donaire done to be on any p4p list? and buddy i'm no kid, i'm not lefty hahahaha

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ok find me a post that I react that way whenever someone says pac doesn't belong anywhere near top 10 ATG. Go ahead and further prove how full of shit you are

Donaire has displayed superior skills over his oppenents and outboxed and put to sleep a dangerous hard to figure out fighter you rank top 15. Donaire hasn't lost in 8 years, has won 20 straight bouts and his only lost was his second fight via decision when he was 18 years old. His only 26 right now and has plenty of time to add to his resume.

Let me ask you before I dismantle any credential you have left, are you completely serious at this list of yours? I was looking at it and realize it has got to be a joke.

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aside from Darchinyan, what the flying fuck has Donaire done? jack shit, he's been beating up bums, hell Juanma Lopez has done more than Donaire (brutally knocking out Ponce De Leon, and then beating the shit out of Penalosa), and i don't even have him in my top 30, anyone can look skilled beating up on crap, hell Chavez Jr looked sensational last time out :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by Julius Rain

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

this coming from the guy who bitches and moans whenever someone says Pacquiao doesn't belong anywhere near the top 10 p4p ATG, stop beating around the bush and answer the question, what the hell has Donaire done to be on any p4p list? and buddy i'm no kid, i'm not lefty hahahaha

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ok find me a post that I react that way whenever someone says pac doesn't belong anywhere near top 10 ATG. Go ahead and further prove how full of shit you are

Donaire has displayed superior skills over his oppenents and outboxed and put to sleep a dangerous hard to figure out fighter you rank top 15. Donaire hasn't lost in 8 years, has won 20 straight bouts and his only lost was his second fight via decision when he was 18 years old. His only 26 right now and has plenty of time to add to his resume.

Let me ask you before I dismantle any credential you have left, are you completely serious at this list of yours? I was looking at it and realize it has got to be a joke.

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aside from Darchinyan, what the flying fuck has Donaire done? jack shit, he's been beating up bums, hell Juanma Lopez has done more than Donaire (brutally knocking out Ponce De Leon, and then beating the shit out of Penalosa), and i don't even have him in my top 30, anyone can look skilled beating up on crap, hell Chavez Jr looked sensational last time out :rolleyes:

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What has 20 fighters in your list done so much more impressive then Nonito? You got two heavyweights who always have the size advantage in your top 10. All you did was throw names into a list that is clearly not thought out well.

All you can say is what has Nonito done besides from DArchinyan? He has continued to beat whos put infront of him. plain and simple. YOu have Darchinyan on your top 15, You have Montiel top 14 and Hasegawa top 10. Nonito will give these guys trouble and you dont think Nonito is in top 30? He already outboxed and ko'ed one and believe me Montiel wont be the one knocking Nonito out cold like you said. VAldez already showed a sample of what Nonito would do to Montiel.

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Originally Posted by Julius Rain

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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ok find me a post that I react that way whenever someone says pac doesn't belong anywhere near top 10 ATG. Go ahead and further prove how full of shit you are

Donaire has displayed superior skills over his oppenents and outboxed and put to sleep a dangerous hard to figure out fighter you rank top 15. Donaire hasn't lost in 8 years, has won 20 straight bouts and his only lost was his second fight via decision when he was 18 years old. His only 26 right now and has plenty of time to add to his resume.

Let me ask you before I dismantle any credential you have left, are you completely serious at this list of yours? I was looking at it and realize it has got to be a joke.

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aside from Darchinyan, what the flying fuck has Donaire done? jack shit, he's been beating up bums, hell Juanma Lopez has done more than Donaire (brutally knocking out Ponce De Leon, and then beating the shit out of Penalosa), and i don't even have him in my top 30, anyone can look skilled beating up on crap, hell Chavez Jr looked sensational last time out :rolleyes:

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What has 20 fighters in your list done so much more impressive then Nonito? You got two heavyweights who always have the size advantage in your top 10. All you did was throw names into a list that is clearly not thought out well.

All you can say is what has Nonito done besides from DArchinyan? He has continued to beat whos put infront of him. plain and simple. YOu have Darchinyan on your top 15, You have Montiel top 14 and Hasegawa top 10. Nonito will give these guys trouble and you dont think Nonito is in top 30? He already outboxed and ko'ed one and believe me Montiel wont be the one knocking Nonito out cold like you said. VAldez already showed a sample of what Nonito would do to Montiel.

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Wlad and Vitali are heavyweights, Lewis himself had a huge size advantage almost everyone he fought and no one gave a shit so don't see the difference here,

Wlad has wins over Barrett, Byrd (twice), Mercer, McCline, Brewster, Peter, Brock, Ibragimov, Rahman, and Chagaev, all at a championship level, not crap padded record fighters like everyone Donaire fought before Concepcion

Vitali has wins against, Donald, Johnson, Sanders, Williams, Peter, Gomez, and Arreola, again most of them are better than the trash that Donaire is fighting

and don't come with the whole he beat Darchinyan shit, he beat Darchinyan before Darchinyan had his most career defining wins, before he became undisputed super flyweight champion, before he beat the shit out of top guys like Kirillov, Mijares and Arce, he even took on a guy tougher than anyone Donaire has faced since his win, in Gorres

and the Montiel fight was bull, he had Valdez in all kinds of trouble and was clearly affected by a hug gash over his eye, and he wasn't the one who bitched out of the fight, Montiel still takes Donaire to school, but doubt the fight will happen, seeing how Donaire will probably take on Cazares a former 108 lb'er :rolleyes:, i'd love to see how he's gonna make any noise without a rematch with Darchinyan, seeing how he is the undisputed champ

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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aside from Darchinyan, what the flying fuck has Donaire done? jack shit, he's been beating up bums, hell Juanma Lopez has done more than Donaire (brutally knocking out Ponce De Leon, and then beating the shit out of Penalosa), and i don't even have him in my top 30, anyone can look skilled beating up on crap, hell Chavez Jr looked sensational last time out :rolleyes:

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What has 20 fighters in your list done so much more impressive then Nonito? You got two heavyweights who always have the size advantage in your top 10. All you did was throw names into a list that is clearly not thought out well.

All you can say is what has Nonito done besides from DArchinyan? He has continued to beat whos put infront of him. plain and simple. YOu have Darchinyan on your top 15, You have Montiel top 14 and Hasegawa top 10. Nonito will give these guys trouble and you dont think Nonito is in top 30? He already outboxed and ko'ed one and believe me Montiel wont be the one knocking Nonito out cold like you said. VAldez already showed a sample of what Nonito would do to Montiel.

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Wlad and Vitali are heavyweights, Lewis himself had a huge size advantage almost everyone he fought and no one gave a shit so don't see the difference here,

Wlad has wins over Barrett, Byrd (twice), Mercer, McCline, Brewster, Peter, Brock, Ibragimov, Rahman, and Chagaev, all at a championship level, not crap padded record fighters like everyone Donaire fought before Concepcion

Vitali has wins against, Donald, Johnson, Sanders, Williams, Peter, Gomez, and Arreola, again most of them are better than the trash that Donaire is fighting

and don't come with the whole he beat Darchinyan shit, he beat Darchinyan before Darchinyan had his most career defining wins, before he became undisputed super flyweight champion, before he beat the shit out of top guys like Kirillov, Mijares and Arce, he even took on a guy tougher than anyone Donaire has faced since his win, in Gorres

and the Montiel fight was bull, he had Valdez in all kinds of trouble and was clearly affected by a hug gash over his eye, and he wasn't the one who bitched out of the fight, Montiel still takes Donaire to school, but doubt the fight will happen, seeing how Donaire will probably take on Cazares a former 108 lb'er :rolleyes:, i'd love to see how he's gonna make any noise without a rematch with Darchinyan, seeing how he is the undisputed champ

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Vic needs Nonito more then Nonito needs Vic, last time Vic was asked about a rematch with Nonito he acted like he didnt hear the name right and dance around the question. Vic wants no part of Nonito again cause he knows he'll get outboxed and put to sleep again. So much for your so called undisputed champ.

The Montiel Valdez fight was bull because they pulled Montiel out of a fight he was losing. Yea he knock down Valdez, but Valdez got up and damaged Montiel even more so.

Your clearly a blind fool, no wonder everybody is laughing at you. You need to change your name because you put it to shame.

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What has 20 fighters in your list done so much more impressive then Nonito? You got two heavyweights who always have the size advantage in your top 10. All you did was throw names into a list that is clearly not thought out well.

All you can say is what has Nonito done besides from DArchinyan? He has continued to beat whos put infront of him. plain and simple. YOu have Darchinyan on your top 15, You have Montiel top 14 and Hasegawa top 10. Nonito will give these guys trouble and you dont think Nonito is in top 30? He already outboxed and ko'ed one and believe me Montiel wont be the one knocking Nonito out cold like you said. VAldez already showed a sample of what Nonito would do to Montiel.

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Wlad and Vitali are heavyweights, Lewis himself had a huge size advantage almost everyone he fought and no one gave a shit so don't see the difference here,

Wlad has wins over Barrett, Byrd (twice), Mercer, McCline, Brewster, Peter, Brock, Ibragimov, Rahman, and Chagaev, all at a championship level, not crap padded record fighters like everyone Donaire fought before Concepcion

Vitali has wins against, Donald, Johnson, Sanders, Williams, Peter, Gomez, and Arreola, again most of them are better than the trash that Donaire is fighting

and don't come with the whole he beat Darchinyan shit, he beat Darchinyan before Darchinyan had his most career defining wins, before he became undisputed super flyweight champion, before he beat the shit out of top guys like Kirillov, Mijares and Arce, he even took on a guy tougher than anyone Donaire has faced since his win, in Gorres

and the Montiel fight was bull, he had Valdez in all kinds of trouble and was clearly affected by a hug gash over his eye, and he wasn't the one who bitched out of the fight, Montiel still takes Donaire to school, but doubt the fight will happen, seeing how Donaire will probably take on Cazares a former 108 lb'er :rolleyes:, i'd love to see how he's gonna make any noise without a rematch with Darchinyan, seeing how he is the undisputed champ

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Vic needs Nonito more then Nonito needs Vic, last time Vic was asked about a rematch with Nonito he acted like he didnt hear the name right and dance around the question. Vic wants no part of Nonito again cause he knows he'll get outboxed and put to sleep again. So much for your so called undisputed champ.

The Montiel Valdez fight was bull because they pulled Montiel out of a fight he was losing. Yea he knock down Valdez, but Valdez got up and damaged Montiel even more so.

Your clearly a blind fool, no wonder everybody is laughing at you. You need to change your name because you put it to shame.

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funny cause i remember him clearly saying he wanted Donaire after he sparked Arce hmmm interesting, the only fucks that don't want the fight to happen are Shaw (cause he's bitter bout Donaire ditching his retarded ass) and Donaire himself

so called Undisputed Champ? dude it's fucking fact, and i don't even like Darchinyan lol i was fucking rooting for Arce cause i can't stand the prick, but if you knew two shits bout boxing, (and i'm gonna break it down to terms you'll understand cause it's clear that you have your head's up your ass) when a fighter unifies the 3 main governing bodies titles (WBC,WBA, IBF) you become the UNDISPUTED CHAMPION

this ends here cause i'm not gonna keep trying to break it down to you that a half ass like Donaire although a talented half ass, who hasn't really accomplished anything more than one big win, doesn't deserve to be anywhere near anything p4p, there is no difference in what Donaire did than what Juanma Lopez has done, and neither are anywhere close to being p4p, well actually scratch that, cause Juanma's actually willing to take on live competition, seeing how he most likely is gonna take on Caballero next, and Gamboa after that, but hmmmm you don't really hear Donaire callin out any REAL names, oh right it's cause everyone's scared of him :rolleyes:

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Interesting list but Id have Nonito Donaire one spot in from of Vic and definately in the top 17. Kesser , JMM, Caballero should be higher also. For the rest Hasegawa, Glen Johnson, Haye, Clottey, Bradley ,Valero, Juan Diaz , Adamek, Edgar Sosa

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don't have Donaire, cause apart from beating Darchinyan he hasn't done shit really, on the other hand Darchinyan moved up and weight and owned it, and i have JMM in the #2 spot, still working out #18-30

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donaire should be there too higher than darch. the reason for this was the recent beating agbeko gave to darch and nonito winning his second title, the wba 115 title, by coming up one division and outboxing a balooned, hard opponent in rafael concepcion.

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Interesting list but Id have Nonito Donaire one spot in from of Vic and definately in the top 17. Kesser , JMM, Caballero should be higher also. For the rest Hasegawa, Glen Johnson, Haye, Clottey, Bradley ,Valero, Juan Diaz , Adamek, Edgar Sosa

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don't have Donaire, cause apart from beating Darchinyan he hasn't done shit really, on the other hand Darchinyan moved up and weight and owned it, and i have JMM in the #2 spot, still working out #18-30

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donaire should be there too higher than darch. the reason for this was the recent beating agbeko gave to darch and nonito winning his second title, the wba 115 title, by coming up one division and outboxing a balooned, hard opponent in rafael concepcion.

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Concepcion was a good win but, and it was his best opponent since Darchinyan, but Darchinyan is STILL the Undisputed Super Flyweight champion, Donaire has won another one of WBA's paper titles, they have like 4 in each division for gods sake, Darchinyan since losing to Donaire, went up in weight won 3 titles at Super Flyweight and beat Mijares and Arce both by TKO, yea he lost badly to Agbeko, but that was when he attempted to move up to yet another division, sorry Donaire is still one pace behind

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don't have Donaire, cause apart from beating Darchinyan he hasn't done shit really, on the other hand Darchinyan moved up and weight and owned it, and i have JMM in the #2 spot, still working out #18-30

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donaire should be there too higher than darch. the reason for this was the recent beating agbeko gave to darch and nonito winning his second title, the wba 115 title, by coming up one division and outboxing a balooned, hard opponent in rafael concepcion.

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Concepcion was a good win but, and it was his best opponent since Darchinyan, but Darchinyan is STILL the Undisputed Super Flyweight champion, Donaire has won another one of WBA's paper titles, they have like 4 in each division for gods sake, Darchinyan since losing to Donaire, went up in weight won 3 titles at Super Flyweight and beat Mijares and Arce both by TKO, yea he lost badly to Agbeko, but that was when he attempted to move up to yet another division, sorry Donaire is still one pace behind

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yeah, thanks to the cowardice of these fighters donaire constantly called out but failed to show some nuts!
and add shaw's "snake management"! where is darch now? humbled while nonito is just adding to his pride! shaw must be fuming...