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07-12-2009, 11:47 PM
CFH

Re: drug epidemic

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Originally Posted by leftylee

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Haven't touched drugs in my life and I ain't ever going to.

Do you drink? Because that's a drug just like the others.

Alcohol ? When im out at parties etc yes but not huge amounts.

You can't compare that to Cannabis, Cocaine, Weed etc. Alcohol is actually legal.

Alcohol is way worse for you than marijuana, despite what some people may tell you. Alcohol directly leads to millions of deaths every year, weed does not. Legality means nothing.

I have a 17 year old cousin who smokes pot regularly but doesn't drink. I'd rather he didn't smoke weed at all, but I'd sooner have him do that than drink.

Cannabis and weed are the same thing btw.
07-12-2009, 11:49 PM
CFH

Re: drug epidemic

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Originally Posted by Youngblood

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Originally Posted by leftylee

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Originally Posted by CFH

Do you drink? Because that's a drug just like the others.

Alcohol ? When im out at parties etc yes but not huge amounts.

You can't compare that to Cannabis, Cocaine, Weed etc. Alcohol is actually legal.

At 17? :headscratch:

lol

I don't care what others do. I'm like you, Lefty, like to have the odd drink although am not of age. Don't touch weed or any other drug, cuz well, just ain't my trip. But I don't look down my nose to those that do. If they are trying to force it on others, I may not be so cool on them for it, especially hard drugs.

I think it won't be too long before we start to see weed being legalized. It has medical benefits and is already being used for that. Certainly more useful then alcohol is that area. Less loss of motor skills when a person is influenced by it, and why you don't hear of too many pot heads wiping out innocent familes stoned compared to drunk drivers behind the wheel.

I guess the arguement is the gateway issue to other harder drugs, to which the same can be said about alcohol. Not sure what to say about that. I do know drugs are a problem tho, particularly the harder ones. I know it has killed some and sent a lot more I know already into dangerous territory.

Weed as a gateway drug is such a bullshit argument. I've never gotten stoned and been like "I should go get some blow...", however I have done those sorts of things when drunk. All weed made me want to do was eat Doritos, play xBox and watch tv.
07-13-2009, 12:56 AM
CGM

Re: drug epidemic

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Haven't touched drugs in my life and I ain't ever going to.

Do you drink? Because that's a drug just like the others.

I dunno, CFH (silly nickname by the way). I don't particularly like agreeing with a self-righteous sober person ;) but lefty has a point. There is a big difference between alcohol and illicit drugs. People do drugs for one reason and one reason only, to get high. The same is not true of alcohol. Not always, anyway.

That being said, for the person who drinks just to get drunk, then I don't really differentiate between drugs and booze.
07-13-2009, 01:44 AM
CFH

Re: drug epidemic

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Originally Posted by CGM

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Haven't touched drugs in my life and I ain't ever going to.

Do you drink? Because that's a drug just like the others.

I dunno, CFH (silly nickname by the way). I don't particularly like agreeing with a self-righteous sober person ;) but lefty has a point. There is a big difference between alcohol and illicit drugs. People do drugs for one reason and one reason only, to get high. The same is not true of alcohol. Not always, anyway.

That being said, for the person who drinks just to get drunk, then I don't really differentiate between drugs and booze.

I agree. Anyone with a three letter nickname is clearly gay.

I probably should've been clearer in my original post, I agree that people can drink without getting drunk (though you can do drugs without getting high, but no one does and that's a digression) but if you're using booze to get drunk, you're using a drug to get high.
07-13-2009, 05:21 AM
Gandalf

Re: drug epidemic

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Originally Posted by leftylee

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Haven't touched drugs in my life and I ain't ever going to.

Do you drink? Because that's a drug just like the others.

Alcohol ? When im out at parties etc yes but not huge amounts.

You can't compare that to Cannabis, Cocaine, Weed etc. Alcohol is actually legal.

It doesn't matter if alcohol is legal or not. It is still a drug that affects a persons mental equilibrium if consumed in substantial quantities.

There is a lot of hypocrisy and bullshit when it comes to government policy towards issues such as alcohol, cigarettes, drugs and even prescription drugs IMO.

Alcohol and cigarettes are definitely more harmful than a number of so called illegal drugs. People are generally conditioned to accept that government policies are in the public interests. They are not though. Some people died out here recently through drinking some dodgy home brew. In that respect anything unregulated can lead to potential death and tragedy. And if you drink enough of the regulated stuff you will die anyway!
07-13-2009, 10:14 AM
leftylee

Re: drug epidemic

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by leftylee

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Originally Posted by CFH

Do you drink? Because that's a drug just like the others.

Alcohol ? When im out at parties etc yes but not huge amounts.

You can't compare that to Cannabis, Cocaine, Weed etc. Alcohol is actually legal.

Alcohol is way worse for you than marijuana, despite what some people may tell you. Alcohol directly leads to millions of deaths every year, weed does not. Legality means nothing.

I have a 17 year old cousin who smokes pot regularly but doesn't drink. I'd rather he didn't smoke weed at all, but I'd sooner have him do that than drink.

Cannabis and weed are the same thing btw.

LOL yeah. In Liverpool we refer to drugs as Beak (Coke) Green (Marajuana) and Garys (Ecstacy).

But trust me I've seen people pissed and stoned. And I'ld have the drunk person any day. Drugs just fukk your head up and mind. Say what you want but nothing will ever persuade me that alcohol is worse than taking drugs. The fact drugs aint even legal proves my point. So me taking a gram of cocaine is better than drinking a bottle of becks ? Laughable.
07-13-2009, 11:27 AM
VictorCharlie

Re: drug epidemic

anybody else hear a sheep?
07-13-2009, 01:05 PM
ICB

Re: drug epidemic

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Originally Posted by leftylee

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Alcohol ? When im out at parties etc yes but not huge amounts.

You can't compare that to Cannabis, Cocaine, Weed etc. Alcohol is actually legal.

Alcohol is way worse for you than marijuana, despite what some people may tell you. Alcohol directly leads to millions of deaths every year, weed does not. Legality means nothing.

I have a 17 year old cousin who smokes pot regularly but doesn't drink. I'd rather he didn't smoke weed at all, but I'd sooner have him do that than drink.

Cannabis and weed are the same thing btw.

LOL yeah. In Liverpool we refer to drugs as Beak (Coke) Green (Marajuana) and Garys (Ecstacy).

But trust me I've seen people pissed and stoned. And I'ld have the drunk person any day. Drugs just fukk your head up and mind. Say what you want but nothing will ever persuade me that alcohol is worse than taking drugs. The fact drugs aint even legal proves my point. So me taking a gram of cocaine is better than drinking a bottle of becks ? Laughable.

Agreed well said Lee but it looks like were on our own regarding this mate.
07-13-2009, 01:12 PM
BIG H

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I'm not a fan of mind altering drugs (and by that I mean Ectasy etc) but I tell you something, In the 90s (my day) You would much rather be at a Rave where everybody was pilled up that you would be in the city centre where people were pissed up. If everybody was taking pills instead of drinking there would be no violence surrounding nightlife. I'm not condoning drugs, but this is a fact!
07-13-2009, 01:13 PM
ICB

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I'm not a fan of mind altering drugs (and by that I mean Ectasy etc) but I tell you something, In the 90s (my day) You would much rather be at a Rave where everybody was pilled up that you would be in the city centre where people were pissed up. If everybody was taking pills instead of drinking there would be no violence surrounding nightlife. I'm not condoning drugs, but this is a fact!

The Essex Boys era ;)
07-13-2009, 01:31 PM
BIG H

Re: drug epidemic

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by BIG H

I'm not a fan of mind altering drugs (and by that I mean Ectasy etc) but I tell you something, In the 90s (my day) You would much rather be at a Rave where everybody was pilled up that you would be in the city centre where people were pissed up. If everybody was taking pills instead of drinking there would be no violence surrounding nightlife. I'm not condoning drugs, but this is a fact!

The Essex Boys era ;)

Lol - Not far from me at all. A very good mate of mine used to 'do a bit of work' with that lot.
07-13-2009, 01:35 PM
ICB

Re: drug epidemic

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Originally Posted by BIG H

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Originally Posted by ICB

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Originally Posted by BIG H

I'm not a fan of mind altering drugs (and by that I mean Ectasy etc) but I tell you something, In the 90s (my day) You would much rather be at a Rave where everybody was pilled up that you would be in the city centre where people were pissed up. If everybody was taking pills instead of drinking there would be no violence surrounding nightlife. I'm not condoning drugs, but this is a fact!

The Essex Boys era ;)

Lol - Not far from me at all. A very good mate of mine used to 'do a bit of work' with that lot.

Been quite interested in the Essex Boys story for awhile, watched the film last year, Rise Of The Footsolider. Then i done a bit of researching online, reading about them on there site. I personally think the police had something to do with there death, but we will never know.
07-13-2009, 01:42 PM
paddy448

Re: drug epidemic

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Cant speak about any where else but in the US alcohol contributes to more deaths and wasted money than all illegal drugs combined annually.

same in this country mate
07-13-2009, 01:44 PM
Youngblood

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haha - well the violence factor for sure is true. I can't remember the last time I saw a guy stoned staring down another at a party (well, maybe if the other dude was hogging the PS3 controller, but that is it). But booze? Near every party I have ever been to some drunk dude with a belly full of liquid courage is ready to take on the world. I actually don't mind it cuz it is funny as fuk to watch 2 drunk assholes beating the hell out of each other and beating their chests, but like I say, have never seen it with guys only stoned from smoking weed.
07-13-2009, 01:47 PM
paddy448

Re: drug epidemic

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by leftylee

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Originally Posted by CFH

Do you drink? Because that's a drug just like the others.

Alcohol ? When im out at parties etc yes but not huge amounts.

You can't compare that to Cannabis, Cocaine, Weed etc. Alcohol is actually legal.

Alcohol is way worse for you than marijuana, despite what some people may tell you. Alcohol directly leads to millions of deaths every year, weed does not. Legality means nothing.

I have a 17 year old cousin who smokes pot regularly but doesn't drink. I'd rather he didn't smoke weed at all, but I'd sooner have him do that than drink.

Cannabis and weed are the same thing btw.

its the mental effect over long periods off time than can fukk u up,having said that i think most things are all right in moderation

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