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I'm going to have to stay with my pick from the last vote - Martirosyan!

Anyone else want to vote on this?

The Poll has now closed. The results are as follows:

Deandre Latimore enters the #10 position by a vote of 3 points to 2 for Vane Martirosyan

I move that Vernon Forrest should be awarded an Honorary title at 154 and hold it until someone else claims the spot.

Is this how cheap 'world' championships are now ..... that it's as meaningless a bauble as a degree or citation, when we think about just giving one out to someone because he's a nice guy who died too young?

Look at the tragedies that there have been in boxing over the years .... there would be thousands of deserving cases and that would devalue these titles even more than they already are (if that's possible)

A title is supposed to be the culmination of years of training, fighting, pain, disappointment and triumphs. If you win one, you are truly at the top of the game - an international class exponent of the art and the absolute best person, at that weight at that time. You never hold the title long as someone else will always be better one day ..... but for that glorious moment, you are truly on top of the world.

Fighters like Jerry Quarry, Cleveland Williams Zora Folley, Roland LaStarza, Charley Burley amd the like - who never won a world title - would be rolling in their graves.

Nothing against Forrest, but 'No', 'I say No' killersheep 'No

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Originally Posted by X

Is this how cheap 'world' championships are now ..... that it's as meaningless a bauble as a degree or citation, when we think about just giving one out to someone because he's a nice guy who died too young?

Look at the tragedies that there have been in boxing over the years .... there would be thousands of deserving cases and that would devalue these titles even more than they already are (if that's possible)

A title is supposed to be the culmination of years of training, fighting, pain, disappointment and triumphs. If you win one, you are truly at the top of the game - an international class exponent of the art and the absolute best person, at that weight at that time. You never hold the title long as someone else will always be better one day ..... but for that glorious moment, you are truly on top of the world.

Fighters like Jerry Quarry, Cleveland Williams Zora Folley, Roland LaStarza, Charley Burley amd the like - who never won a world title - would be rolling in their graves.

Nothing against Forrest, but 'No', 'I say No' killersheep 'No

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You aren't a manager................ :p

oops, sorry mate ...... I didn't realise it was something else (apologies, I thought you were suggesting he was honoured with a real honorary belt/title)

I voted 'no', so maybe someone can just remove my vote or you can just discount one from the 'no' section?

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I say no....The rankings are hard enough without awarding honorary belts...then it will be a debate on whop to really put in the shoes etc

I was thinking we should leave that vacant spot open for a spell regardless?What sort honorary belt ?

I agree with this proposal. It would only be until the ranked #1 fought another top 5 fighter & he would take over. It's not like he was ranked #6, the guy was our #1 & deservedly so & had beaten a top 5 ranks within the last year. I know it's sentimental, but hell if there's a sport more prone to sentimentality I haven't come across it. I think until a fight is made that is worthy of being for the championship, then there is no one more deserving of the honorary championship.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

I was thinking we should leave that vacant spot open for a spell regardless?What sort honorary belt ?

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It doesn't look like you all should have a real champ there anyway?? Why not let him stay there temporarily.

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Originally Posted by JazMerkin

I agree with this proposal. It would only be until the ranked #1 fought another top 5 fighter & he would take over. It's not like he was ranked #6, the guy was our #1 & deservedly so & had beaten a top 5 ranks within the last year. I know it's sentimental, but hell if there's a sport more prone to sentimentality I haven't come across it. I think until a fight is made that is worthy of being for the championship, then there is no one more deserving of the honorary championship.

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Yeah this is a good idea.

Disclaimer: I am not a manager and I know nothing about boxing.

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Originally Posted by boozeboxer

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

I was thinking we should leave that vacant spot open for a spell regardless?What sort honorary belt ?

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It doesn't look like you all should have a real champ there anyway?? Why not let him stay there temporarily.

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You might have a point about Williams.Its not as if he's defeated anyone of note or substance now that you think about it ;D


Hey Greg....by "leaving that spot vacant" was talking about Vernons rank...and not filling it in a quick vote....sort of a missing man formation in a fly over,out of repect.Leaving him ranked is the same,so yes.Been a long day:cwm13:

I vote no. Nothing against Forrest but whats the point of awarding a championship when he never meet our conditions since they were established? We have set in place certain rules & conditions & I think its wise to stick to them. Plus it would look bad for our ratings imo to have a dead man advance through our rankings & become recognized as our champion.

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

I vote no. Nothing against Forrest but whats the point of awarding a championship when he never meet our conditions since they were established? We have set in place certain rules & conditions & I think its wise to stick to them. Plus it would look bad for our ratings imo to have a dead man advance through our rankings & become recognized as our champion.

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I agree 100%.