Re: IVAN CALDERON vs RODEL MAYOL
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I am more interested in seeing Martinez than Calderon, to tell you the truth. Martinez is really, really exciting and a fight with Guerrero should be made if Martinez wins tonight.
Martinez might be more entertaining but Calderon is the better all around more skilled fighter, although i like Rocky, i think his chin will give out against Guerrero, he was wobbled pretty damn bad against Cook and Cook has nothing on Guerrero when it comes to anything lol
In my post I wasn't mentioning "skill," so I am not sure why you would bring that up. Martinez's vulnerability makes his fights exciting and although Calderon has better defensive skills, I was bored to death watching his fight last night. Good defense, little offense. At least Whitaker and Mayweather were/are more offensive minded than Iron Boy.
If you have seen MANY of Martinez's fights like I have, you will know that Rocky has never, ever been hurt when he has gone down (he didn't even go down against Cook!). In fact, I compare those knockdowns to most of Trinidad's in his career-the flash knockdown variety. Win or lose, I believe that whoever Martinez fights at 130, the fight will be exciting.
Calderon used to fight with a more offensive yet counter puncher style, but now that he's coming in age, well he's defense first, & Whitaker and Mayweather didn't get into the pro game when they were in their late 20's now did they, nor did they hit their PEAK at around 33, and given how small he is the fact that Calderon is still the king of his division basically is a feat in itself, didn't say Cook dropped him now did i? i said Cook wobbled him something fierce, and that's a fact, re-watch the fight and it's obvious that Martinez was hurt, he recovered nicely and then came back to stop Cook badly, that's what made his win so impressive, but IMO out of all the main champs that PR has right now (Cotto, Santos, Lopez, Calderon, & Martinez) i'd say Martinez is the most beatable, and i seriously think that a motivated Guerrero will beat Martinez
Re: IVAN CALDERON vs RODEL MAYOL
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ElTerribleMorales
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ElTerribleMorales
Martinez might be more entertaining but Calderon is the better all around more skilled fighter, although i like Rocky, i think his chin will give out against Guerrero, he was wobbled pretty damn bad against Cook and Cook has nothing on Guerrero when it comes to anything lol
In my post I wasn't mentioning "skill," so I am not sure why you would bring that up. Martinez's vulnerability makes his fights exciting and although Calderon has better defensive skills, I was bored to death watching his fight last night. Good defense, little offense. At least Whitaker and Mayweather were/are more offensive minded than Iron Boy.
If you have seen MANY of Martinez's fights like I have, you will know that Rocky has never, ever been hurt when he has gone down (he didn't even go down against Cook!). In fact, I compare those knockdowns to most of Trinidad's in his career-the flash knockdown variety. Win or lose, I believe that whoever Martinez fights at 130, the fight will be exciting.
Calderon used to fight with a more offensive yet counter puncher style, but now that he's coming in age, well he's defense first, & Whitaker and Mayweather didn't get into the pro game when they were in their late 20's now did they, nor did they hit their PEAK at around 33, and given how small he is the fact that Calderon is still the king of his division basically is a feat in itself, didn't say Cook dropped him now did i? i said Cook wobbled him something fierce, and that's a fact, re-watch the fight and it's obvious that Martinez was hurt, he recovered nicely and then came back to stop Cook badly, that's what made his win so impressive, but IMO out of all the main champs that PR has right now (Cotto, Santos, Lopez, Calderon, & Martinez) i'd say Martinez is the most beatable, and i seriously think that a motivated Guerrero will beat Martinez
Definitely Martinez is the most beatable, but to reiterate my point that I have been making all along, Martinez is the most exciting out of all of those you mentioned (good arguments can be made about Cotto and Lopez in terms of excitement). I mean, his nickname is Rocky, a name that symbolizes excitement. In terms of entertainment, I love a Martinez fight. In terms of skilled boxers, Martinez needs work.
In terms of Cook, you say wobbled, I say Martinez lost his balance going backward after getting hit with a pretty good and unexpected shot. "Wobble" to me signifies jelly legs, a stager, and visibly hurt. I did not see any of these.
I need to see Calderon hit his opponents more than once per round. He seems almost scared to go on the offensive and he holds a lot in close. Kind of boring to me.
Re: IVAN CALDERON vs RODEL MAYOL
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We know who won the fight. Rodel Mayol beat the chicken runner Calderon. :)
Trilogy is a must. And must be in USA. It should be in neutral corner.
No need for a 3rd fight. Mayol has had 4 title shots. And each time he's failed to win. I have no desire to watch him fail a 5th time
Re: IVAN CALDERON vs RODEL MAYOL
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I don't mind a third fight. But I think Ivan don't want anymore Mayol.
What's better, watching Mayol again somehow headbutt a man 5 inches shorter than him to lose a decision or watch Calderon go up against more likely threat like Edgar Sosa or Brian Viloria?
Is Mayol b*tching like he did after the first fight again?
mayol headbutted calderon? are you serious?
Yes, I am serious. Normally fighters who gets cuts from headbutts are of similar size as their opponents, like Cotto-Clottey & Bradley-Campbell for two recent examples. Unless Calderon is jumping up off the ground, can you explain how Mayol's head is coming into contact with that of a man 5 inches shorter than him?
You don't see the Klitschko brothers or Paul Williams clashing heads with significantly shorter opponents. I swear I never thought I'd see the day that the British were overtaken as the most blindly nationalistic 'boxing fans', but amazingly it has happened.
Re: IVAN CALDERON vs RODEL MAYOL
It seems that Calderon cant convincingly win a fight. Ever.
