Comparison of Floyd's punching stats to Vitali's punching stats in latest matches

If Floyd is so boring then why do you buy or watch any of his fights. People seem to be following and commenting on this boring guy every day of their lives. I like his fight style. I like Bernards style also. When did throwing punches and losing make u a good fighter. Gatti did that but he was an average fighter. Paul Williams throws a lot of punches but you all ran him out of the division. Just admit it, u guys dont like Floyd for some other reason. You all are the type of people who voted for George Bush Jr. and then tried to deny it.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

Pathetic to be rated PFP#1 best fighter in the world for years, comes back and is at #2, sold over a million PPV with JMM and is the #4 all time grossing PPV fighter in the history of the sport... SOOOO your rant says nothing really substantial Lyle:rolleyes:

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So if Vitali fought Bernard Hopkins AT HEAVYWEIGHT and whipped the crap out of him you'd give him credit? That's essentially what Floyd did by beating Marquez. Or maybe if Wladimir fought Tomaz Adamek at heavyweight he'd get credit for beating him?

Here's your chance to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you're no hypocrit...all you have to do is say "Yes I would give them full credit"....please be my guest and explain why I should even consider Floyd as a P4P best when he beat up a featherweight who hadn't even proven himself vs the best lightweights much less junior welters or welterweights.

Oh but he's Floyd 'Money' Mayweather, he's brash and irreverant and he's flashy on TV so it doesn't matter who Floyd fights or at what weight he fights anyone, it's only THAT he fights and that he acts like a total jackass, that's why we should bow down before him as the greatest of all time :rolleyes:

I have no problem showering compliments down on Floyd's skill, he's amazing, outstanding, terrific....but does he challenge himself??? Does he try to challenge himself?? Has he set out to prove he is deserving of the title as the Greatest of all time???? NO, NO, and NO. He's just a good fighter....Manny Pacquiao's wins over De la Hoya and Hatton (although they happened after Floyd beat those guys) were much more impressive because Manny moved up in weight and challenged himself vs the best 140 had to offer at the time and a very big albeit weight drained De la Hoya....and he stopped both of them.

See unlike you Floyd "fans" I think Floyd could beat Paul Williams, I would rather Floyd get KTFO, but I think he'd prove a lot fighting and beating the BIGGER guys and the guys who are solid threats, I think Pavlik is HUGE but he's slow and easy to hit, I think Cotto may not have rebounded from the loss to Margarito, I think Shane doesn't have the style ot beat Floyd, but will he fight those guys? Nope, he wouldn't even consider it because he's a punk....he's talented, but he's a little punk

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Are you actually comparing Hopkins going up to face Vitali to Floyd vs Marquez? You do realize Vitali is almost twice as big as Hopkins, while Floyd was bigger than Marquez, but it wasn't by that much, he weighed like 4-8 pounds heavier come fight night.

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Originally Posted by Kel

Has Floyd ever been in a FOTY?

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Lol you jokers make me laugh with all this "Floyd's boring" shit as you've obviously only started watching him since he got real popular around the ODLH fight.

The guy is not afraid to scrap and has a ton of heart. Round 5 against Ndou was ranked one of the rounds of the year and his brawls against Chavez, Augustus, Corley etc were all highly entertaining fights.

Lyle, I don't really have a bad word to say about Wladimir because he is a good boxer and always gets the job done but I do personally find him more boring than Floyd because of the lack of punch variety and athletic ability.

However, you can't say anything bad about Wlad at the moment. He's doing his thing...I, like JT, prefer Vitali though.

As for Floyd challenging himself by moving up against a bigger guy who can box a bit? Erm...Oscar De La Hoya?? ;) Didn't you just give Pacquaio credit for beating up on an older, weight drained Oscar?

End of the day it's all swings and roundabouts - We could argue individual tastes all night long and get nowhere. Me personally? I would sit through Floyds whole career set rather than watch a single Hatton, Calzaghe or Wlad match.

To me they're boring, to someone else - They're entertaining.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Are you actually comparing Hopkins going up to face Vitali to Floyd vs Marquez? You do realize Vitali is almost twice as big as Hopkins, while Floyd was bigger than Marquez, but it wasn't by that much, he weighed like 4-8 pounds heavier come fight night.

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Yes, it's just about the same thing...doesn't matter about what Marquez weighed on fight night it matters that he wasn't tested at 140 much less 147 and he only had 2 fights against ok lightweights.

So I'm saying Marquez was a great featherweight and superfeatherweight and above that he's really not been in with world class opponents...Casamayor is aged and Juan Diaz is a big fat fraud. Also Floyd probably weighed in around 150 or so for fight night so JMM probably gave up 8 or so actual pounds but in experience at weight classes 135 and above he gave up loads more.