Re: Nobel Prize goes to Obama...
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JazMerkin
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Bilbo
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JazMerkin
Well, Miles not to be picky, but he probably has done a bit more than you to deserve one. Your record on trees & neighbours shows you're not the man for the Peace Prize ;)
Actually I disagree, Obama the 'man of peace', is the most militant pro abortionist ever to hold office. He has even denied legal rights to children born alive as a result of botched abortions so a child survives an abortion attempt (which happens often) that child will get murdered outside of the womb, seperate from its mother,in other words infanticide.
He also wants to use abortion as a birth control measure to get families above of the poverty line.
He also wants us to accept a 'death culture' where the terminally ill are allowed the right to die with dignity rather than be kept alive in pain and suffering, which sounds reasonable but is only the first step of the process to on the way to euthansasing the elderly, sick and infirm to save billions of US dollars, if that sounds far fetched, then just read the published works of his own elected science team.
Millions more will now die as a result of Obama's presidency but the public likely will not care as those to die won't be the headliners, civilians in war etc, but the true innocents, unborn babies, and the elderly and infirm.
Thanks for that Glenn Beck :rolleyes:
Well roll your eyes if you want but I what I am saying is true.
Mother Theresa, an actual deserving Nobel Prize winner said that 'Abortion is the great destroyer of peace', now she was a prize winner I can respect.
America alone aborts around 1.2 million children annually, well over 50 million American unborn terminated since the Roe vs Wade case in 73.
I find any talk of 'peace' to be laughable in all honesty.......
Re: Nobel Prize goes to Obama...
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JazMerkin
Thanks for that Glenn Beck :rolleyes:
lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA7-BvVDV10
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Youngblood
haha that was pretty funny:p
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Scrap
He got rid of Bush.
Maybe theres a place for him in the porn industry.
Re: Nobel Prize goes to Obama...
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miles
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BoxingGorilla
I don't think the award is to impress anyone living today.
It's for our great, great, great grandchildren. They will know as much about Obama as most of us today know about Washington or Lincoln or any other president.
You don't give a prize to miles saying "This is a memento of all the good that we think you will do in the future". It is silly.
miles hasn't done anything and neither has Obama. It's a bullshit prize.
Oh, I agree. Most of us think that now, but 200 years from today it will just ne "proof" that he was a great man.
Unless that 2012 thing goes down...
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I'm a democrat. But what a crock. He shouldn't have won it.
Re: Nobel Prize goes to Obama...
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Bilbo
Well roll your eyes if you want but I what I am saying is true.
Mother Theresa, an actual deserving Nobel Prize winner said that 'Abortion is the great destroyer of peace', now she was a prize winner I can respect.
America alone aborts around 1.2 million children annually, well over 50 million American unborn terminated since the Roe vs Wade case in 73.
I find any talk of 'peace' to be laughable in all honesty.......
Well, you seem to consider her worthy despite the horrible medical conditions that her hospices were in. Very worrying where the money went considering the amount of donations she recieved. Her work also seemed to focus on saving 'souls' rather than lives, as evidenced of her doing baptisms of the sick at a time that they needed important healthcare.
But, hey, she's against abortion so she must be worthy :rolleyes:
Your stuff on Obama is really just nonsense spread by marginal right-wing sources. Euthanasia will just not happen & abortion should be available to those in poor communities, however they are usually the least likely to use it as an option, so unless the state starts forcing abortions on people, you're talking utter shite. If you've got a credible news source for your claims, I'd be willing to discuss this more, but until then forget it.
Oh & regardless of any of that, Obama simply should not have won a Nobel Peace Prize, but the award is a joke, it says a lot that Obama is by no means the worst choice of recipient they've ever had.
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Lyle
Well we know who did NOT deserve it and they gave it to him.
The Nobel Peace Prize is supposed to be a prestigious award and giving it to a guy who has been in office for a couple of months and done fuck all in that time span....they might as well have flushed that thing down the crapper.
You are not alone in that sentiment
"He has done nothing for peace in Afghanistan ... We condemn the award of the Nobel Peace Prize for Obama." -
Zabihullah Mujahid, a Taliban spokesman
"Obama has a long way to go still and lots of work to do before he can deserve a reward. Obama only made promises and did not contribute any substance to world peace." -
Sami Abu Zuhri, a Hamas official
It looks like Lyle is objectively pro-terrorist.
Re: Nobel Prize goes to Obama...
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Bilbo
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JazMerkin
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Actually I disagree, Obama the 'man of peace', is the most militant pro abortionist ever to hold office. He has even denied legal rights to children born alive as a result of botched abortions so a child survives an abortion attempt (which happens often) that child will get murdered outside of the womb, seperate from its mother,in other words infanticide.
He also wants to use abortion as a birth control measure to get families above of the poverty line.
He also wants us to accept a 'death culture' where the terminally ill are allowed the right to die with dignity rather than be kept alive in pain and suffering, which sounds reasonable but is only the first step of the process to on the way to euthansasing the elderly, sick and infirm to save billions of US dollars, if that sounds far fetched, then just read the published works of his own elected science team.
Millions more will now die as a result of Obama's presidency but the public likely will not care as those to die won't be the headliners, civilians in war etc, but the true innocents, unborn babies, and the elderly and infirm.
Thanks for that Glenn Beck :rolleyes:
Well roll your eyes if you want but I what I am saying is true.
Mother Theresa, an actual deserving Nobel Prize winner said that 'Abortion is the great destroyer of peace', now she was a prize winner I can respect.
America alone aborts around 1.2 million children annually, well over 50 million American unborn terminated since the Roe vs Wade case in 73.
I find any talk of 'peace' to be laughable in all honesty.......
Well over 50 million before Roe vs. Wade too. It's not like they invented abortion in 1973, it just became legal. And safe -- no knitting needles, kitchen table operating theatres etc.
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I think this is actually the start of a preemtive peace campaign by the Nobel committee. Every time there's a new American President they're going to give him the Peace Prize in a preemptive move to hopefully cut the amount of carnage he might think about getting up to while he's in office.
Re: Nobel Prize goes to Obama...
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JazMerkin
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Bilbo
Well roll your eyes if you want but I what I am saying is true.
Mother Theresa, an actual deserving Nobel Prize winner said that 'Abortion is the great destroyer of peace', now she was a prize winner I can respect.
America alone aborts around 1.2 million children annually, well over 50 million American unborn terminated since the Roe vs Wade case in 73.
I find any talk of 'peace' to be laughable in all honesty.......
Well, you seem to consider her worthy despite the horrible medical conditions that her hospices were in. Very worrying where the money went considering the amount of donations she recieved. Her work also seemed to focus on saving 'souls' rather than lives, as evidenced of her doing baptisms of the sick at a time that they needed important healthcare.
But, hey, she's against abortion so she must be worthy :rolleyes:
Your stuff on Obama is really just nonsense spread by marginal right-wing sources. Euthanasia will just not happen & abortion should be available to those in poor communities, however they are usually the least likely to use it as an option, so unless the state starts forcing abortions on people, you're talking utter shite.
If you've got a credible news source for your claims, I'd be willing to discuss this more, but until then forget it.
Oh & regardless of any of that, Obama simply should not have won a Nobel Peace Prize, but the award is a joke, it says a lot that Obama is by no means the worst choice of recipient they've ever had.
Here's a couple. His own science team are eugenicists, it's not even up for debate, his own self appointed science czsar wrote a book outlining plans for exactly that, forced abortion and forced sterilisation programs.
Obama's Science Czar Considered Forced Abortions, Sterilization as Population Growth Solutions - Political News - FOXNews.com
Obama's science czar suggested compulsory abortion, sterilization | Washington Examiner
Watch how his cronies respond when questioned directly about their future plans to bring in euthanasia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk12THeU5eA
There is an abundance of evidence out there about what is going on. The biggest story in the whole of 2009 was not even reported, that was the pharmaceutical company Baxter 'accidently' infecting sizeable quantities of flu vaccine with the lethal Avian Flu virus (H5N1). Google Jane Burgeimester and look into, it's an absolutely shocking story and strangely wasn't reported AT ALL in the media, which is suprising, only until you realise who runs the media.
WHO officials also 'accidently' exploded a container of swine flu on a train in Switzerland.
If you wonder who the Norweigan Commitee who gave Obama the Nobel Prize actually are, and why they may have chosen him , this article is quite interesting.
http://www.northstarnational.com/200...international/
Anyway, you should look into these things before you immediately ridicule it.
No government in the history of the world has ever been free from secret agenda's, corruption and evil, and today's world is no different.
We have massive problems with overpopulation, dwindling resources etc. Something needs to be done about it. The far left liberals see things such as abortion, forced sterilisation programs, euthanasia and possibly even artificially created virus's as ways to solve the problem.
When you actually look at the evidence and what is happening the possibility of ominous times ahead look disconcertingly possible.
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This youtube vid is great Jaz, watch it carefully and in full. The Obama administration is putting into motion some seriously sinister plans. The withdrawal of care for terminally ill and seriously sick people is something they want to do as part of their health reform, they refer to under their 'principles for allocation of scarce medical interventions'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbUP66blTyQ
They are talking about bringing in the same kind of eugenesist measures that Hitler did, it's happening and demonstrably so.
The video above is VERY interesting.
Also, and this is sooo significant is Obama's proposal for elderly American citizens to attend an 'End of Life Consultation' every five years if healthy and more often if they suffer from a serious or terminal illness, how can this be interperated in any other way than in the government applying 'pressure' on the eldery and infirm to die sooner and save their families from suffering (and the state from the expense of caring from them)?
It's so fucking sinister it's unreal and it's exactly what has happened with abortion. 30 or 40 years ago the idea of abortion was morally repugnant to most people, now most people actually consider it wrong to condemn abortion, it's been a complete 180 degree turnaround.
This is the first step in changing attitudes and perceptions towards dying. They want to foster and encourage a 'death culture' where people will ultimately accept the withdrawal of care for the elderly and infirm, in other words euthanasia.
It's happening now and in 10 or 15 years it will be entirely normal to have granny peacefully put to sleep to save her from her suffering.
If you think I'm nuts just do the research yourself. It's not even discrete, all the information is readily available.
Obama's science advisors have written and published articles on this, they have explicity stated what they want to do. It's Hitler eugenics all over again.
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Watch this vid as well Jaz.
Listen to the words of Obama himself, about two thirds of the way into the video.
Deo Gratias!: President Obama & Euthanasia - Latest Updates
Tell me HONESTLY like you don't think this is leading towards withdrawal of care for certain patients, which IS euthanasia.......
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Who said Obama deserves the Nobel peace prize more than me? That's an outrageous thing to say!
I am a very peaceful man, but I'm not willing to allow people to walk all over me. Whence my confrontations with those that cause intense noise pollution and those that try to rip me off by telling blatant untruths. I just won't tolerate it. I most certainly do not climb trees.
I would much rather the prize went to someone like Chomsky tbh. Someone who has been advocating practical solutions to the middle east problem and has been a keen critic of U.S. foreign policy for many years.
Re: Nobel Prize goes to Obama...
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miles
Who said Obama deserves the Nobel peace prize more than me? That's an outrageous thing to say!
I am a very peaceful man, but I'm not willing to allow people to walk all over me. Whence my confrontations with those that cause intense noise pollution and those that try to rip me off by telling blatant untruths. I just won't tolerate it. I most certainly do not climb trees.
I would much rather the prize went to someone like Chomsky tbh. Someone who has been advocating practical solutions to the middle east problem and has been a keen critic of U.S. foreign policy for many years.
He got it purely because the Norweigen Commitee wanted to show solidarity with Obama and his policies on Europe, Israel (specifically) and other socialist issues. Have a google of exactly who comprised the Norweigen committee and it all starts to become clear........
