Pac is behaving erratically over losing a little bit of blood?
You really don't see the link between that a period joke?
:rolleyes:
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Pac is behaving erratically over losing a little bit of blood?
You really don't see the link between that a period joke?
:rolleyes:
Not anymore...now Bob Arum and Team Pacquiao have changed their stance YET AGAIN. Mayweather says we want USADA testing, Pacquiao cries to the Gods and Arum calls the fight off. Then Arum says "ok, we'll do some additional testing but it has to be with a third party, let's use the same guys that the NFL, NBA, MLB use. Mayweather's team backs off USADA and says "alright, I don't care as long as the blood tests are random." AND FUCKING NOOOOOOOOOOOW, Bob Arum is saying "we'll only do additional testing if the NSAC asks for it". A petition on blood testing has to be raised in the January to get the NSAC to hear the case and they said "we don't know how long it will take to decide on it." So we ALL KNOW that NSAC ain't gonna do blood testing. WHAT THE HELL MAN? What is wrong with Bob Arum and Manny Pacquiao? Something is up and I think it's one of three things: Manny is using PEDs, Manny is realizing that he can't train for this type of fight and run for political office at the same time and is trying to find a way out of the fight, or this is just all hype cooked up GBP and Top Rank to get them some heavy sports new coverage and front page headlines a couple months before the fight (I don't think it is).Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamao
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Originally Posted by AdamGBQuote:
Originally Posted by mad_takamura
The bottom line for me is that Urine tests are inconclusive at best and that Pac's behaviour over this fiasco have cast a huge amount of suspicion over him.
He must have known the reaction that the general public would have over this, yet he chose to act the way he has... In my opinion ANY effect that the blood test would have (which would be slim to none) would not be worth the way this has made Pac look unless he had something BIG to hide. That is just my opinion though, unfortunatly for pac that is no doubt the opinion of 100s of others now too.
The fact that he has acted this way, asking for a timetable, saying he's afraid of needles, despite having tattoos, thinking a tiny blood test will affect him when he is surrounded by sports nutritionists/chefs etc is a MASSIVE smoking gun no matter which way you spin it.
The way I see it, Mayweather is afraid to fight. Why only now the issue had been raised on this blood test thing? Past DLH, Hatton, Cotto and nobody asked then for this shit test thing. As the saying goes: "If one man wants to do a task, he will do it without hesitation otherwise, he will complain, go into lots of talking and make excuses".
Mind everybody here, Team Pacquiao is not against on this blood test thing, they want to have the test but with some other third party agency. In addition, why USADA? both are professional fighters recognized not only in the USA but to the whole of Planet Earth. Correct me if I'm wrong but USADA is doing testing only for Olympic, Pan American and Paralympic Athletes. (Do you think the Major League Baseball will agree to have their testing with a collegiate baseball agency specializing in high school and college baseball leagues oh common, have some common sense). INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
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Originally Posted by KKisserfunny how epo can easily be undetected especially in boxing where blood testing isn't required yet pacquiao is the only fighter who has risen to the level he has. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
hahahah ye because he is widley recognised as #1 GOAT isnt he... second to god himself (well only to the 'haters')
get a grip, plenty of fighters have achieved as much or more than he has
dont come out with the old 7 division BS because pac has the big advantage of starting so light were the divisions are like 2,3 lbs apart and the sport currently has more divisions than it ever has before
mad takamura,
when this fight doesn't happen because the "superstitious" pacquiao won't take an itty bitty blood test, i have a suggest for you. why don't you just shoot yourself because you are the one acting like a complete pussy and imbecille. i mean, you've already threatened to "kill" posters here one by one. that to me is evident of a total idiot in desperation mode. and why are you so opposed to paccheat taking this blood test? are you afraid that pacquiao might come out dirty and will be labeled a complete fraud and cheat? in the mean time, go worship a picture of your God pacquiao and ask him why he's being such a coward and pussy! :o
“I am still willing to Fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. I never said the fight was off or I do not want to fight him. I will fight anyone at anytime and my record and past fights prove that. I have never and will never dodge anyone. These are my specifications for this fight regarding blood testing. I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the press [conference]. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room . I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight. That does not make sense to me why anyone would do that.”
Pacquiao-Mayweather Update | Fightnews - Boxing News Updated 24/7
Also I know some of us are friends with Malignaggi on Facebook he said that he has NOT been contacted by Arum.
haha you dont even want to see the pm that 12 yr old nuthugger sent me. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by milmascaras1
oh took you several days to come up with that? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonQuote:
Originally Posted by KKisserfunny how epo can easily be undetected especially in boxing where blood testing isn't required yet pacquiao is the only fighter who has risen to the level he has. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
hahahah ye because he is widley recognised as #1 GOAT isnt he... second to god himself (well only to the 'haters')
get a grip, plenty of fighters have achieved as much or more than he has
dont come out with the old 7 division BS because pac has the big advantage of starting so light were the divisions are like 2,3 lbs apart and the sport currently has more divisions than it ever has before
ok, just name me these fighters we have at present that is at par with pac's achievement or current performance. since it's so easy to get away with these peds in pro boxing without the blood test there gotta be plenty of them, right?
also, pac is only goat to a few loud nuthuggers, and don't even bring god up. pac's movie came up last in boxoffice top-grosser among all entries in this years metro manila film festival in the philippines and i doubt he would even win as a congressman in the small province he's running at for next year's election. shows how popular he is outside of being a boxer. lol
methink this article explains better why pac's team doesn't want to do it:
Pacquiao vs. Mayweather: Floyd Mayweather Jr. Attempts to Kill Boxing | Bleacher Report\\
"Mayweather is once again willing to negotiate, as you can see in the article I’ve linked below. Other articles have made the point that it’s not the blood testing that bothers Pacquiao per say; it’s the relinquishing of control to Mayweather."
Oh so now that's the reason?Quote:
Originally Posted by KKisser
I thought he was afraid of needles, and then disruption of his training schedule, and then the mental weakness of giving a blood sample, and then the lawsuit for defamation of character, then it was Golden Boy's connection to the USADA, now it's about control.
It's all BS,
The following statement is still true no matter how you spin it.
"Pacquiao is backing out of the fight because of a drug test"
actually it's a little of all that killersheep. whether you believe it or not, it's ultimately all about control. just wait and see, this fight will still get done. pac will take a random test and we'll all be happy watching this 1st quarter of 2010.
so needless to say, it's still Manny Pacquiao's fault that this fight isn't happening, and he's the main cause of all this pre-fight bullshit dramaQuote:
Originally Posted by KKisser
Control for what? Everything else has already been agreed to. I had a lot of respect for Pacquiao, he was my fighter of the year vote no question. He has accomplished some amazing things. I don't understand the argument that Pacquiao is taking control by being ignorant to why testing procedures need to be random or being afraid of needles. Maybe he is just getting a jumpstart on his political career?Quote:
Originally Posted by KKisser
Also running around in a delirium of panic is hardly what I would call control, it's the exact opposite.
This has always been about control for Pacman. If I were him, I wouldn't want the USADA doing the drug tests either. I wouldn't want any American agency doing the drug test. I'd rather have some independent agency that doesn't represent either the Phillipines or the United States do them. As for the random drug testing, I'd want it written in that Floyds blood would need to be taken within 2 hours of my own every single time if I were Pacman. Outside of that, this thing should move forward.
lot of angst here lol. everything is just posturing and control. keep talking about the fight guys. that'll keep up the hype lmao.
so you say. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesso needless to say, it's still Manny Pacquiao's fault that this fight isn't happening, and he's the main cause of all this pre-fight bullshit dramaQuote:
Originally Posted by KKisser