Edwin Valero Charged With Murdering...

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by p4pking

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

honestly don't see how you can crack a fucking joke at such a serious tragedy, that's even low for you dude

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Oh get off it man, it was clearly just a dig at the south american justice system in leu of the Gatti case etc. I suppose you shed real tears when you read about this huh? Just ruined your day:rolleyes: Just because we are fans of the sport of boxing doesn't make this any more of a tragedy than any other thousand murders taking place all over the world on a given day; of course it's a horrible, sad case, but sickos like Valero are out there. It was just a couple of weeks ago his wife was admitted to the hospital with a punctured lung from him beating her with his bare hands for christs sake.

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fuck you dude, when you actually have a relative taken from you due to similar circumstances then you can talk, this has nothing to do with boxing (other than the fact that Valero is a boxer), his ass deserves whatever comes his way

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well said mate

jeez some of the posters on here can be so highly strung sometimes

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Originally Posted by p4pking

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

fuck you dude, when you actually have a relative taken from you due to similar circumstances then you can talk, this has nothing to do with boxing (other than the fact that Valero is a boxer), his ass deserves whatever comes his way

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Why you having a go at P4PKing, it was me that made the original comment?

Anyway, humour is mankind's way of dealing with bad situations and always has been.

Take your blood pressure tablets and calm down. Have a nice glass of milk or something.

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Lol, it just made me chuckle really. Apparently since I don't have a relative who was killed by their spouse I'm not even qualified to speak on the matter:-X. Maybe it's a joyous thing:confused: I really have no idea. Someone enlighten me please, is murder bad?

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you don't find anything about the matter a bit amusing or relatively funny, when you've had someone you love beaten by the guy who was supposed to be taking care of her, then when she actually tries to get away the guy shows up to her mother's house (where she's staying) and not only drags her but their two kids as well, then also kills her mother (my aunt) because she was calling the cops, no one finds out about anything until about 5 hours later when my cousin and her 4 yr old son and 2 yr old daughter were shot to death and the guy makes a clean get away, tell me where the humor is in that

Wow this is pretty heavy stuff. Can't quite believe it.

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by p4pking

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

Why you having a go at P4PKing, it was me that made the original comment?

Anyway, humour is mankind's way of dealing with bad situations and always has been.

Take your blood pressure tablets and calm down. Have a nice glass of milk or something.

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Lol, it just made me chuckle really. Apparently since I don't have a relative who was killed by their spouse I'm not even qualified to speak on the matter:-X. Maybe it's a joyous thing:confused: I really have no idea. Someone enlighten me please, is murder bad?

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you don't find anything about the matter a bit amusing or relatively funny, when you've had someone you love beaten by the guy who was supposed to be taking care of her, then when she actually tries to get away the guy shows up to her mother's house (where she's staying) and not only drags her but their two kids as well, then also kills her mother (my aunt) because she was calling the cops, no one finds out about anything until about 5 hours later when my cousin and her 4 yr old son and 2 yr old daughter were shot to death and the guy makes a clean get away, tell me where the humor is in that

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Look man, clearly neither Bilbo or myself meant to make light of the issue as a whole, and that's a really really awful story, I'm sorry to hear you had to go through that. But quite frankly, to a small extent, the humour lies in the fact that you would fail to recognize what either of us meant initially, and were unable to draw a distinction between a knock at the authorities and making a joke out of bloody murder or in some way excusing it. That you would insinuate Bilbo was in fact downplaying the seriousness of the crime in the first place and start spewing venom, is mildly amusing to me, truth be told. Although I don't remember cracking a joke of my own, I thought his was well played all things considering. It never hurts to laugh you know.

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Originally Posted by p4pking

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by p4pking

Lol, it just made me chuckle really. Apparently since I don't have a relative who was killed by their spouse I'm not even qualified to speak on the matter:-X. Maybe it's a joyous thing:confused: I really have no idea. Someone enlighten me please, is murder bad?

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you don't find anything about the matter a bit amusing or relatively funny, when you've had someone you love beaten by the guy who was supposed to be taking care of her, then when she actually tries to get away the guy shows up to her mother's house (where she's staying) and not only drags her but their two kids as well, then also kills her mother (my aunt) because she was calling the cops, no one finds out about anything until about 5 hours later when my cousin and her 4 yr old son and 2 yr old daughter were shot to death and the guy makes a clean get away, tell me where the humor is in that

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Look man, clearly neither Bilbo or myself meant to make light of the issue as a whole, and that's a really really awful story, I'm sorry to hear you had to go through that. But quite frankly, to a small extent, the humour lies in the fact that you would fail to recognize what either of us meant initially, and were unable to draw a distinction between a knock at the authorities and making a joke out of bloody murder or in some way excusing it. That you would insinuate Bilbo was in fact downplaying the seriousness of the crime in the first place and start spewing venom, is mildly amusing to me, truth be told. Although I don't remember cracking a joke of my own, I thought his was well played all things considering. It never hurts to laugh you know.

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It would after Elterrible broke your ribs.;)

Do they have the death penalty in Venezuela ?

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by p4pking

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

you don't find anything about the matter a bit amusing or relatively funny, when you've had someone you love beaten by the guy who was supposed to be taking care of her, then when she actually tries to get away the guy shows up to her mother's house (where she's staying) and not only drags her but their two kids as well, then also kills her mother (my aunt) because she was calling the cops, no one finds out about anything until about 5 hours later when my cousin and her 4 yr old son and 2 yr old daughter were shot to death and the guy makes a clean get away, tell me where the humor is in that

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Look man, clearly neither Bilbo or myself meant to make light of the issue as a whole, and that's a really really awful story, I'm sorry to hear you had to go through that. But quite frankly, to a small extent, the humour lies in the fact that you would fail to recognize what either of us meant initially, and were unable to draw a distinction between a knock at the authorities and making a joke out of bloody murder or in some way excusing it. That you would insinuate Bilbo was in fact downplaying the seriousness of the crime in the first place and start spewing venom, is mildly amusing to me, truth be told. Although I don't remember cracking a joke of my own, I thought his was well played all things considering. It never hurts to laugh you know.

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It would after Elterrible broke your ribs.;)

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Haha true, although I can assure you he'd have a much easier time breaking yours.;)

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Originally Posted by p4pking

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

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Originally Posted by p4pking

Look man, clearly neither Bilbo or myself meant to make light of the issue as a whole, and that's a really really awful story, I'm sorry to hear you had to go through that. But quite frankly, to a small extent, the humour lies in the fact that you would fail to recognize what either of us meant initially, and were unable to draw a distinction between a knock at the authorities and making a joke out of bloody murder or in some way excusing it. That you would insinuate Bilbo was in fact downplaying the seriousness of the crime in the first place and start spewing venom, is mildly amusing to me, truth be told. Although I don't remember cracking a joke of my own, I thought his was well played all things considering. It never hurts to laugh you know.

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It would after Elterrible broke your ribs.;)

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Haha true, although I can assure you he'd have a much easier time breaking yours.;)

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He'd have to find me first of course, and living in a hole makes one elusive, just ask Osama, well you can't because you don't know where he is.....

@Spicoli, not since 1863.

What a terrible tragedy for his wife and her family. She was a real beauty too. Fuck Valero.

Jesus Christ, such bad news. But you take the brain damage incurred in the motorcycle accident and years of boxing, and add drugs and alcohol addiction into the mix, and you've got a recipe for disaster any way you look at it.

RIP Valero's wife and RIP a promising boxing career.

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Originally Posted by Greig

Absolute tragedy. Awful for the wife's family, they must be devastated. RIP.

And the only people who come out of this looking ok are the US authorities who wouldn't license the prick - they obviously knew he had a screw loose in that fucking metal plate in his head:-\

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I first read the headlines and wanted to beleive it was a joke. First thing I thought was poor girl and her kids? I hope there is someone to care for them. How many times do they go for abuser and keep going back?

I think its more like the State Department revoking his visa that looks the best because I read something like "We don't need more drunk drivers killing people".

No weight categories to protect him where he is heading.

Rip to his ex and peace to all who loved her.

Just read this on fightnews. Can't believe it. I was shocked to hear he was being released from rehab so early and now it shows he shouldn't have been. R.I.P. Jennifer Viera.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

What a terrible tragedy for his wife and her family. She was a real beauty too. Fuck Valero.

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Well said.

His wife was such a beautiful yong woman. What a waste of life.

Why couldn't Valero had just killed himself instead ?

I hope he literally gets ripped limb from limb in prison.

Heartbreaking that this animal did this to the Mother of his children.

I feel very sorry for his wifes family. What a cock.