Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSs3BiSCbZc
Spanish.
Ricardo saying only Trinidad got his respect, he'll fight Cotto for free, and only Cotto's kids respect him.
Re: Mayorga Vs. Cotto for March??
I give Mayorga a shot at anyone to be honest.
147-154
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Mayorga just beat Michael Walker and you guys think he can not only compete with Miguel Cotto but beat him into submission?!?!?! Just what the fuck are you smoking? Sure Miguel Cotto has had his tough fights, sure he got out sped by Manny Pacquiao and cheated by Margarito and he's had trouble in other fights but Ricardo 'wide swinging, one punch at a time, chain smoking, probably can't legally make 154' Mayorga hasn't really been knocking the top competition dead recently.
Cotto doesn't have to be Willie Pep to outbox Ricardo Mayorga and he doesn't have to be Oscar De la Hoya or Tito Trinidad to hurt him either. Miguel Cotto will touch Mayorga up to the head and to the body, weaken him a bit, and Cotto will coast a bit in rounds allowing Ricardo to throw a billion punches and tire himself out, and then Mayorga will eat some counters, probably have a broken jaw, and then Cotto will finish him off.
Miguel Cotto might not be competing at the very elite level of the sport (like with Pacquiao or Mayweather) but he's still world class and Mayorga hasn't been world class since 2005 vs Piccirillo....oddly enough I think that's the last time he LEGALLY made 154 as well.
Walker is no world beater but he was a hell of a lot more dangerous than Yuri Foreman...
I love Cotto. I am a Cotto fan and a huge Mayorga fan.
I think it will be a competitive fight that can go either way.
Could Cotto have beaten Vargas at 162 and sent him into retirement ?
No.
Could Mayorga have outboxed Mosley for a disputed SD win ? No as he clearly was KO'd in the 12th, desptie leading on one scorecard becus the Goddamn ref did NOT sent Mosley to the neutral corner when he knocked Mayorga down !;D
Mayorga has strength, size, and power, and Cotto has superior boxing skills and a great body attack.
But Cotto is not as good as he once was, and never once was he as good as Tito and Oscar.
Its gonna be a good fight. If it gets made.
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I dont give a crap about all these fools that think they know how every fight will turn out. I just wanna see the damn press confrence for this, that will more than make up for a mismatch(which this fight is not). I wanna see what Mayorga has to say about Cotto taking knees and looking to his corner to stop fights. Gonna be good.;D
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I dont give a crap about all these fools that think they know how every fight will turn out. I just wanna see the damn press confrence for this, that will more than make up for a mismatch(which this fight is not). I wanna see what Mayorga has to say about Cotto taking knees and looking to his corner to stop fights. Gonna be good.;D
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Probably something along the lines of "In Nicaragua, the woman give birth to men in the streets and those men land on their feet, not on their knees looking for their mummy to help them up."
He'll then take a big drag on a cigarette and blow the smoke in Cottos face and he will then point with his arm outstretched in Cottos face and do that load fake laugh and then grab his crotch or lift up his shirt to show his abdominal muscles, then kiss his biceps and probably slap Cotto on the neck which will make Cottos legs go and his promoter will wonder why the fuck they didnt just put him in with Martosian!
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I give Mayorga a shot at anyone to be honest.
147-154
Mayorga couldn't make 147 again if he weighed in on the Moon!
You Mayorga fans feel free to be as wrong as you like....Cotto is a boxer/puncher, Manny Steward has a pretty simple task in getting him to at least outbox Mayorga, and hell we don't even know if Mayorga can make 154 legally anymore....he got busted for taking a diuretic vs De la Hoya and that was the last time he fought at 154. Ricardo hasn't improved with age....no matter what you think of Cotto he would always ALWAYS beat Ricardo Mayorga.
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I give Mayorga a shot at anyone to be honest.
147-154
Mayorga couldn't make 147 again if he weighed in on the Moon!
You Mayorga fans feel free to be as wrong as you like....Cotto is a boxer/puncher, Manny Steward has a pretty simple task in getting him to at least outbox Mayorga, and hell we don't even know if Mayorga can make 154 legally anymore....he got busted for taking a diuretic vs De la Hoya and that was the last time he fought at 154. Ricardo hasn't improved with age....no matter what you think of Cotto he would always ALWAYS beat Ricardo Mayorga.
Lol yeah he hasn't made 147 since the younger days.
Cotto chin keeps getting tested though and it has been for years.
Can he take some of the shots Oscar, Tito, Mosley have taken??
Cotto is not too hard to hit even when he is backpedaling or skipping round the ring.
Who do you think would win vs Mayorga/Margarito??
After all, Margarito just fought the p4p "1"...
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Lol yeah he hasn't made 147 since the younger days.
Cotto chin keeps getting tested though and it has been for years.
Can he take some of the shots Oscar, Tito, Mosley have taken??
Cotto is not too hard to hit even when he is backpedaling or skipping round the ring.
Who do you think would win vs Mayorga/Margarito??
After all, Margarito just fought the p4p "1"...
Cotto's taken some hellacious shots I don't think he has a bad chin, his defense could be improved, but oh well.
Mayorga-Margarito is a more logical match up in my opinion
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Who do you think would win vs Mayorga/Margarito??
After all, Margarito just fought the p4p "1"...
Im hoping that Ricardo gets in to good shape for Cotto, if he does that it certainly wont be a shock to see Cotto take his worse loss. In that kind of shape and form Mayorga would be at least competative with anyone and id say he beats Margarito easier than he does Cotto. At least Cotto knows how to run sideways;D
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Cotto's taken some hellacious shots I don't think he has a bad chin, his defense could be improved, but oh well.
I dont think Cotto has a bad chin. I just think he can be bullied, intimidated. If his opponent has something that can counter his own work I have always felt he would fall apart. He doesnt seem to have a higher gear to fight back or figure an opponent out.
To be fair, it doesnt take much to figure Mayorga out but when you arent that great defensively and are are relatively week minded as I think Cotto is, then when Mayorga gets in decent shape and marauds him constantly and lands some clean shots I think Cotto will just gradually get beaten up and probably take another knee.
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hardcore_crash
Who do you think would win vs Mayorga/Margarito??
After all, Margarito just fought the p4p "1"...
Im hoping that Ricardo gets in to good shape for Cotto, if he does that it certainly wont be a shock to see Cotto take his worse loss. In that kind of shape and form Mayorga would be at least competative with anyone and id say he beats Margarito easier than he does Cotto. At least Cotto knows how to run sideways;D
i wouldn't even pick Mayorga to beat the likes of Foreman or K9
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Who do you think would win vs Mayorga/Margarito??
After all, Margarito just fought the p4p "1"...
Im hoping that Ricardo gets in to good shape for Cotto, if he does that it certainly wont be a shock to see Cotto take his worse loss. In that kind of shape and form Mayorga would be at least competative with anyone and id say he beats Margarito easier than he does Cotto. At least Cotto knows how to run sideways;D
i wouldn't even pick Mayorga to beat the likes of Foreman or K9
Hed kick the shit shit out of the 5,6" K9 and as for Foreman;D
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ElTerribleMorales
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hardcore_crash
Who do you think would win vs Mayorga/Margarito??
After all, Margarito just fought the p4p "1"...
Im hoping that Ricardo gets in to good shape for Cotto, if he does that it certainly wont be a shock to see Cotto take his worse loss. In that kind of shape and form Mayorga would be at least competative with anyone and id say he beats Margarito easier than he does Cotto. At least Cotto knows how to run sideways;D
i wouldn't even pick Mayorga to beat the likes of Foreman or K9
Hed kick the shit shit out of the 5,6" K9 and as for Foreman;D
and you got that from him beating a dude who was whooped by the likes of Andy Lee :rolleyes:, and who just so happened to be 1-5 in his last 6 fights (last 2 being by TKO both stopping earlier than Mayorga did)
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El Kabong
Cotto's taken some hellacious shots I don't think he has a bad chin, his defense could be improved, but oh well.
I dont think Cotto has a bad chin. I just think he can be bullied, intimidated. If his opponent has something that can counter his own work I have always felt he would fall apart. He doesnt seem to have a higher gear to fight back or figure an opponent out.
To be fair, it doesnt take much to figure Mayorga out but when you arent that great defensively and are are relatively week minded as I think Cotto is, then when Mayorga gets in decent shape and marauds him constantly and lands some clean shots I think Cotto will just gradually get beaten up and probably take another knee.
Relatively weak minded. Bro do you live in a cave? Cotto fought Mosely prior to PBF and beat him, fought Marg before he got caught and Clottey. Miguel Cotto is a warrior!!!
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El Kabong
Cotto's taken some hellacious shots I don't think he has a bad chin, his defense could be improved, but oh well.
I dont think Cotto has a bad chin. I just think he can be bullied, intimidated. If his opponent has something that can counter his own work I have always felt he would fall apart. He doesnt seem to have a higher gear to fight back or figure an opponent out.
To be fair, it doesnt take much to figure Mayorga out but when you arent that great defensively and are are relatively week minded as I think Cotto is, then when Mayorga gets in decent shape and marauds him constantly and lands some clean shots I think Cotto will just gradually get beaten up and probably take another knee.
Relatively weak minded. Bro do you live in a cave? Cotto fought Mosely prior to PBF and beat him, fought Marg before he got caught and Clottey. Miguel Cotto is a warrior!!!
I can see why he said that. Cotto did take a knee from the pressure Margarito put on him, and you could see he just didn't want to be in there against Pac in the last round or two.
Let's make one thing clear everyone who laces the pair of gloves is a warrior in my eyes. Cotto is no exception. He definately has heart and balls to be in there and take some of the beatings he's taken.
He just seems to break down when he is not the bully or is being pushed around himself.
Out of all the things Cotto that took him down a few notches in my book was when he low blowed Zab constantly to save his life...