Re: p4p, legacy, and resume which one takes it? PBF,Pac, RJJ
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Originally Posted by
Pavlik
Pac's ascension in weightclass was quite unique because his power was a factor whether he is fighting guys his size or in a "catchweight" which in my opinion is negligible because at fight night they rehydrate and becomes functionally bigger than Manny anways except ODLH. For me yes the 8 weightclasses matter and so does the 4 lineal titles. Good thing is Manny is not yet done:cool:
No offense man but you can't be serious. At this level of the sport weight is a science. If their was nothing to it, then why ask for it? Armstrong didn't along with a litany of other fighters throughout history.
You want to call yourself p4p...then do it. Don't dictate to the 147 pound champion that he must make 145 in order to defend his own title. Thats insane and has zero to do with p4p.
Re: p4p, legacy, and resume which one takes it? PBF,Pac, RJJ
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
Pavlik
Pac's ascension in weightclass was quite unique because his power was a factor whether he is fighting guys his size or in a "catchweight" which in my opinion is negligible because at fight night they rehydrate and becomes functionally bigger than Manny anways except ODLH. For me yes the 8 weightclasses matter and so does the 4 lineal titles. Good thing is Manny is not yet done:cool:
No offense man but you can't be serious. At this level of the sport weight is a science. If their was nothing to it, then why ask for it? Armstrong didn't along with a litany of other fighters throughout history.
You want to call yourself p4p...then do it. Don't dictate to the 147 pound champion that he must make 145 in order to defend his own title. Thats insane and has zero to do with p4p.
Do you think Cotto would have won if the fight had been at 147 instead of 145?
Re: p4p, legacy, and resume which one takes it? PBF,Pac, RJJ
Stinking PacTards run this site........So if Floyd beats Pac let me guess you still rate Pac higher cause he had all those great catch weight , Floyd left over, and weight drain fights. He beats his competition at the scales. Can we have a HUGE ASTERISK or maybe we take Floyd out lol Because If we take out the HGH, STEROIDS, PED'S and other bullshit Roy and Pac take and or took then who's left. So just like the Barry Bonds ball sitting in Cooperstown its a matter of time before Pac get's the asterisk oh but wait you guys think it's ok Roy did it and it's ok Pac does it and Barry and Mark....but wait you won't put an asterisk by Pac because you guys forgave Margarito too so as soon as Pac loses to a real fighter not a washed up weight drained bum who WAS good at one time then we will see these forums turn into a GHOST TOWN.
Re: p4p, legacy, and resume which one takes it? PBF,Pac, RJJ
Dude how do you guys lie to yourselves? Who the fuck actually get's excited for a Pac fight anymore? They are basically prescripted.....they win it before they fight....then they trick most of you brianless people. God this place is seeping Pac boys....Damn anyone know a Forum where they don't hang from Pacs shorts? One where boxing is boxing and it's skill and not one guy whos arrogant so everyone hates him and then another who tricks the casual fan and is a hoax. Where are the unbiased neutral people? I want to learn something from you guys but not how to hang onto Pacs sack. Maybe you guys are so uneducated and brainless that you believe this crap and overlook the truth about this hoax named Pac.......damn but you let Margarito and RJJ (steroids) off the hook too. You guys suck....as in the Pac Tards who own this site And F YOU if you ban me again cause you banned me in 2006 then sent me an email asking me to please come back. Oh but why was I banned? Cause I wasn't buying that Jermain Taylor bullshit HBO wanted to send down our throat like everyone does Pac. JT lost his fights to B Hop, he was exposed and if Pac ever fights someone I might get excited. I would get more excited to have him fight a bum then a washed up has been who gets beat at the scale or who was once washed up but then Pac and Roach change there mind when they decide to fight him Fuckloff!
Re: p4p, legacy, and resume which one takes it? PBF,Pac, RJJ
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Originally Posted by
Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
Pavlik
Pac's ascension in weightclass was quite unique because his power was a factor whether he is fighting guys his size or in a "catchweight" which in my opinion is negligible because at fight night they rehydrate and becomes functionally bigger than Manny anways except ODLH. For me yes the 8 weightclasses matter and so does the 4 lineal titles. Good thing is Manny is not yet done:cool:
No offense man but you can't be serious. At this level of the sport weight is a science. If their was nothing to it, then why ask for it? Armstrong didn't along with a litany of other fighters throughout history.
You want to call yourself p4p...then do it. Don't dictate to the 147 pound champion that he must make 145 in order to defend his own title. Thats insane and has zero to do with p4p.
Do you think Cotto would have won if the fight had been at 147 instead of 145?
that and if Pacquiao would have had 10 oz gloves like a real welter instead of his 8 oz gloves, oh and the little detail that Cotto had no trainer than yea i'd given him a better shot than the one he had
Re: p4p, legacy, and resume which one takes it? PBF,Pac, RJJ
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Originally Posted by
Julius Rain
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
Pavlik
Pac's ascension in weightclass was quite unique because his power was a factor whether he is fighting guys his size or in a "catchweight" which in my opinion is negligible because at fight night they rehydrate and becomes functionally bigger than Manny anways except ODLH. For me yes the 8 weightclasses matter and so does the 4 lineal titles. Good thing is Manny is not yet done:cool:
No offense man but you can't be serious. At this level of the sport weight is a science. If their was nothing to it, then why ask for it? Armstrong didn't along with a litany of other fighters throughout history.
You want to call yourself p4p...then do it. Don't dictate to the 147 pound champion that he must make 145 in order to defend his own title. Thats insane and has zero to do with p4p.
Do you think Cotto would have won if the fight had been at 147 instead of 145?
I guess we will never know the answer to that question. Fact of the matter is he demanded that the 147 champion not make 147 and he was the challenger. Odd that he would then fight Clottey, the biggest welter in the division with no weight demands.
Re: p4p, legacy, and resume which one takes it? PBF,Pac, RJJ
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Originally Posted by
mafiajoey
Dude how do you guys lie to yourselves? Who the fuck actually get's excited for a Pac fight anymore? They are basically prescripted.....they win it before they fight....then they trick most of you brianless people. God this place is seeping Pac boys....Damn anyone know a Forum where they don't hang from Pacs shorts? One where boxing is boxing and it's skill and not one guy whos arrogant so everyone hates him and then another who tricks the casual fan and is a hoax. Where are the unbiased neutral people? I want to learn something from you guys but not how to hang onto Pacs sack. Maybe you guys are so uneducated and brainless that you believe this crap and overlook the truth about this hoax named Pac.......damn but you let Margarito and RJJ (steroids) off the hook too. You guys suck....as in the Pac Tards who own this site And F YOU if you ban me again cause you banned me in 2006 then sent me an email asking me to please come back. Oh but why was I banned? Cause I wasn't buying that Jermain Taylor bullshit HBO wanted to send down our throat like everyone does Pac. JT lost his fights to B Hop, he was exposed and if Pac ever fights someone I might get excited. I would get more excited to have him fight a bum then a washed up has been who gets beat at the scale or who was once washed up but then Pac and Roach change there mind when they decide to fight him Fuckloff!
Dude, you have some anger issues and definitely needs some counseling.
It must be those dogs in your profile pic, you should change that to some flowers maybe. ;D
Re: p4p, legacy, and resume which one takes it? PBF,Pac, RJJ
I'd go with Jones. In his prime there was no question who was best.
Right now theres 3 fighters who could be best p4p . Sergio, Pac and Floyd. Pacs stats speak for itself. Floyd is the unbeaten one and Martinez is the guy in form whos making the big waves. Jones though was 1 of a kind.