Have not read all the posts but I think if Tony Tucker can give Tyson a hard fight with only 1 hand then I think Lewis would beat Tyson from ANY year.
This thread comes around every year or so and starts an almighty slagging match.;D
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Have not read all the posts but I think if Tony Tucker can give Tyson a hard fight with only 1 hand then I think Lewis would beat Tyson from ANY year.
This thread comes around every year or so and starts an almighty slagging match.;D
LOL read my reply 2 posts ago about Tucker who was similar to Lewis in many ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
In fantasy fights against the greatest HW champs at their peak supposedly MIke Tyson kos all of them from Ali, Lewis, Holyfield, Foreman, etc. Because when you beat guys like Trevor Berbick and blownup LHWs like Spinks and bums like Michael Jack Johnson this makes you the greatest in terms of fantasy fights.:rolleyes:
Tyson couldn't beat a 37 year old Lewis and a 34 year old Holyfield with lots of wear and tear, what makes you think he can beat the best versions of them?
And this whole crap about Mike Tyson past his prime at 23 years old with minimal wear and tear in the Douglas fight is another long line of excuses.
I do think that some fighters get ruined after certain fights from certain fighters. Look at Vernon Forrest, if he hadnt have met Mayorga, he had just smashed the top pound for pound fighter. I also think those fits took a little from Mayorga too.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterLOL read my reply 2 posts ago about Tucker who was similar to Lewis in many ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
My point is, that Tucker was a very good, decent skilled heavy weight that just happened to have to defend his title against one of the most phenominal fighting machines ever.
You will see alot of people refer to Tyson in similar fashion. You will never get the same reverence and fondness for Lewis because unless a fighter pushed him, he didnt do a great deal. He certainly didnt have the same skill level as that Tyson. The one that could bob and weave and avoid being hit.
Just read it.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterLOL read my reply 2 posts ago about Tucker who was similar to Lewis in many ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Lewis of 2009 was a compleate boxer.
Every part of his game was A or A+ apart from his chin which why Tyson would alway have a small chance.
Everyone has peaks that was his, Lewis was when he was older, Benitez was young so was Vargas why do you find it hard to accept that was not his peak. My peak was 21 or down hill from there for me. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Really;DQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaJust read it.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterLOL read my reply 2 posts ago about Tucker who was similar to Lewis in many ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Lewis of 2009 was a compleate boxer.
Every part of his game was A or A+ apart from his chin which why Tyson would alway have a small chance.
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Originally Posted by rossReally;DQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaJust read it.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterLOL read my reply 2 posts ago about Tucker who was similar to Lewis in many ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Lewis of 2009 was a compleate boxer.
Every part of his game was A or A+ apart from his chin which why Tyson would alway have a small chance.
Expand on your last post.
Its hard to debate 1 word.:rolleyes:
2009 says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by rossReally;DQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaJust read it.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterLOL read my reply 2 posts ago about Tucker who was similar to Lewis in many ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Lewis of 2009 was a compleate boxer.
Every part of his game was A or A+ apart from his chin which why Tyson would alway have a small chance.
Expand on your last post.
Its hard to debate 1 word.:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Master2009 says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by rossReally;DQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaJust read it.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterLOL read my reply 2 posts ago about Tucker who was similar to Lewis in many ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Lewis of 2009 was a compleate boxer.
Every part of his game was A or A+ apart from his chin which why Tyson would alway have a small chance.
Expand on your last post.
Its hard to debate 1 word.:rolleyes:
O yes:rolleyes::(:(.
I see your point.:p
First time iv read that on here;DQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by Master2009 says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by rossReally;DQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaJust read it.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterLOL read my reply 2 posts ago about Tucker who was similar to Lewis in many ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Lewis of 2009 was a compleate boxer.
Every part of his game was A or A+ apart from his chin which why Tyson would alway have a small chance.
Expand on your last post.
Its hard to debate 1 word.:rolleyes:
O yes:rolleyes::(:(.
I see your point.:p
The Lewis of 99 struggled with Holyfield twice. Thats no better than what Ruiz did;D
At least Ruiz managed to win their first fight and he dropped Holyfield! So much for Lewis's big power eh;)
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Originally Posted by rossFirst time iv read that on here;DQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by Master2009 says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by rossReally;DQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaJust read it.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterLOL read my reply 2 posts ago about Tucker who was similar to Lewis in many ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Lewis of 2009 was a compleate boxer.
Every part of his game was A or A+ apart from his chin which why Tyson would alway have a small chance.
Expand on your last post.
Its hard to debate 1 word.:rolleyes:
O yes:rolleyes::(:(.
I see your point.:p
The Lewis of 99 struggled with Holyfield twice. Thats no better than what Ruiz did;D
At least Ruiz managed to win their first fight and he dropped Holyfield! So much for Lewis's big power eh;)
Tyson went 19 rounds with Razor Rudock and did not come close to stopping him what ever Richard Steele thought.But Lewis took him out clean in 2 rounds.
Does this mean Lewis is a harder puncher?
No,it mean that different styles are suited to certain styles.
Also Lewis may have struggled with Holyfield twice but Tyson got beat and humilated by Holifield twice.;D
Right;DQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by rossFirst time iv read that on here;DQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by Master2009 says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by rossReally;DQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaJust read it.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterLOL read my reply 2 posts ago about Tucker who was similar to Lewis in many ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Lewis of 2009 was a compleate boxer.
Every part of his game was A or A+ apart from his chin which why Tyson would alway have a small chance.
Expand on your last post.
Its hard to debate 1 word.:rolleyes:
O yes:rolleyes::(:(.
I see your point.:p
The Lewis of 99 struggled with Holyfield twice. Thats no better than what Ruiz did;D
At least Ruiz managed to win their first fight and he dropped Holyfield! So much for Lewis's big power eh;)
Tyson went 19 rounds with Razor Rudock and did not come close to stopping him what ever Richard Steele thought.But Lewis took him out clean in 2 rounds.
Does this mean Lewis is a harder puncher?
No,it mean that different styles are suited to certain styles.
Also Lewis may have struggled with Holyfield twice but Tyson got beat and humilated by Holifield twice.;D
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Originally Posted by rossRight;DQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by rossFirst time iv read that on here;DQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by Master2009 says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by rossReally;DQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaJust read it.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterLOL read my reply 2 posts ago about Tucker who was similar to Lewis in many ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Lewis of 2009 was a compleate boxer.
Every part of his game was A or A+ apart from his chin which why Tyson would alway have a small chance.
Expand on your last post.
Its hard to debate 1 word.:rolleyes:
O yes:rolleyes::(:(.
I see your point.:p
The Lewis of 99 struggled with Holyfield twice. Thats no better than what Ruiz did;D
At least Ruiz managed to win their first fight and he dropped Holyfield! So much for Lewis's big power eh;)
Tyson went 19 rounds with Razor Rudock and did not come close to stopping him what ever Richard Steele thought.But Lewis took him out clean in 2 rounds.
Does this mean Lewis is a harder puncher?
No,it mean that different styles are suited to certain styles.
Also Lewis may have struggled with Holyfield twice but Tyson got beat and humilated by Holifield twice.;D
Your point...:confused:
Tyson had been in jail for 3 plus years when he faced Holyfield, he had been out of boxing for various reasons for 5 plus against Lewis. Those wins don't mean all that much as Tyson was done. Tyson had years of skills erosion, whilst those other two were refining their craft. They never met at equal junctures in their careers.
Tyson beats both of them prime on prime.