Is the general opinion of wlad deserved?

I agree valuevs a 7' pudding, i just dont know how the klitchskos jabbing for 12 rounds would fair up against a monster muppet like valuev, hes that unorthodoxed and messy technical boxers (ie jabbers) hav never been sucessful against him, haye beat him with speed and slickness, i dont think either of the klitchskos hav hayes speed,

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Haye has only been in the HW division for 5 minutes & he's already fighting someone decent. As for the ( IBF/WBO title holder) he's been fighting chubby stiffs for years what's his excuse? When all is said & done & the ( IBF/ WBO title holder ) loses to haye I want ( el cockbong) to think of me! P.s see what I did !

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#1 He had a chance to fight Wlad 2 years ago

#2 His competition up to this point has been poor even given the state of the division there were better fights out there for him.

Sure, if he wins I'll shed a single tear just for you....would you want me to save it in a jar and mail it to you as well?

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did he fight audley harrison too?

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I'm sorry, did I mention him?

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yes and john ruiz and how haye pulled out of the first fight

i bet you mention those things a few more times today too :)

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Haye has only been in the HW division for 5 minutes & he's already fighting someone decent. As for the ( IBF/WBO title holder) he's been fighting chubby stiffs for years what's his excuse? When all is said & done & the ( IBF/ WBO title holder ) loses to haye I want ( el cockbong) to think of me! P.s see what I did !

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#1 He had a chance to fight Wlad 2 years ago

#2 His competition up to this point has been poor even given the state of the division there were better fights out there for him.

Sure, if he wins I'll shed a single tear just for you....would you want me to save it in a jar and mail it to you as well?

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did he fight audley harrison too?

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I'm sorry, did I mention him?

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yes and john ruiz and how haye pulled out of the first fight

i bet you mention those things a few more times today too :)

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:vd: OK so let me get this straight...you are opposed to me judging this fighter by his record? Would you like for me to judge him on his delivery of trash talk?

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Haye has only been in the HW division for 5 minutes & he's already fighting someone decent. As for the ( IBF/WBO title holder) he's been fighting chubby stiffs for years what's his excuse? When all is said & done & the ( IBF/ WBO title holder ) loses to haye I want ( el cockbong) to think of me! P.s see what I did !

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#1 He had a chance to fight Wlad 2 years ago

#2 His competition up to this point has been poor even given the state of the division there were better fights out there for him.

Sure, if he wins I'll shed a single tear just for you....would you want me to save it in a jar and mail it to you as well?

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did he fight audley harrison too?

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I'm sorry, did I mention him?

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yes and john ruiz and how haye pulled out of the first fight

i bet you mention those things a few more times today too :)

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:vd: OK so let me get this straight...you are opposed to me judging this fighter by his record? Would you like for me to judge him on his delivery of trash talk?

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nope, you can judge him how ever you want to

but you arent a very good judge when it comes to haye and his record :)

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Haye has only been in the HW division for 5 minutes & he's already fighting someone decent. As for the ( IBF/WBO title holder) he's been fighting chubby stiffs for years what's his excuse? When all is said & done & the ( IBF/ WBO title holder ) loses to haye I want ( el cockbong) to think of me! P.s see what I did !

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#1 He had a chance to fight Wlad 2 years ago

#2 His competition up to this point has been poor even given the state of the division there were better fights out there for him.

Sure, if he wins I'll shed a single tear just for you....would you want me to save it in a jar and mail it to you as well?

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did he fight audley harrison too?

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I'm sorry, did I mention him?

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yes and john ruiz and how haye pulled out of the first fight

i bet you mention those things a few more times today too :)

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:vd: OK so let me get this straight...you are opposed to me judging this fighter by his record? Would you like for me to judge him on his delivery of trash talk?

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nope, you can judge him how ever you want to

but you arent a very good judge when it comes to haye and his record :)

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How do you come to that conclusion?

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Haye has only been in the HW division for 5 minutes & he's already fighting someone decent. As for the ( IBF/WBO title holder) he's been fighting chubby stiffs for years what's his excuse? When all is said & done & the ( IBF/ WBO title holder ) loses to haye I want ( el cockbong) to think of me! P.s see what I did !

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#1 He had a chance to fight Wlad 2 years ago

#2 His competition up to this point has been poor even given the state of the division there were better fights out there for him.

Sure, if he wins I'll shed a single tear just for you....would you want me to save it in a jar and mail it to you as well?

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did he fight audley harrison too?

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I'm sorry, did I mention him?

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yes and john ruiz and how haye pulled out of the first fight

i bet you mention those things a few more times today too :)

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:vd: OK so let me get this straight...you are opposed to me judging this fighter by his record? Would you like for me to judge him on his delivery of trash talk?

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nope, you can judge him how ever you want to

but you arent a very good judge when it comes to haye and his record :)

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How do you come to that conclusion?

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ha, in england sarcasm is used for humour

to put it in american terms, in england that response would be seen as a "wise crack"

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his brother aside wlad is currently considered the best HW out there in current form, dominant and unbeatable against the current crop, including David Haye

If we look at when his current form started (which arguably started after Sam Peter 1) how good has that run been?

what has his best win been in that time? How many of his oppponents had the tools to trouble any of the main HW champs of years gone by? In that time how many times has wlad been in a fight where his opponent has a real chance of winning?

In current form would David Haye have had any more trouble with these fighters than wlad has?

Has wlad ever been really such an outstanding heavyweight?

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He's done all you can ask of a champion. Fought ranked guys, taken unification fights whenever possible (the Chagaev fight was supposed to be unification after all bu the WBA changed their mind on recognising Chagaev). People expecting him to fight his own brother are being ridiculous, and just looking for excuses to critisize. He's taking the best challenge available right now in Haye, and wasn't the one who pulled out of the first fight. He'd probably get more love if he had a more attacking style. Other than that what can he do? It's not his Wladimirs fault heavyweight lacks any fighters to get excited about.

As for his best foe faced, Byrd was a very respectable fighter when they first fought, in his current run I'd go with either Ibragimov or Chagaev, probably Ibragimov as Ruslan had some many health and inactivity problems he probably didn't get the best of him.

I am pretty sure that Haye is going to get knocked out by Wald and i pretty sure even then people won't give Wald much credit but hey i am still looking forward to seeing this fight should be good.

Come on wlad knock haye out!!
Do it for England

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Come on wlad knock haye out!!
Do it for England

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Why on Earth would you want him to get KO'd for England??? He's really exciting and one of the best boxers ever!


He said so himself! ;D

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I am pretty sure that Haye is going to get knocked out by Wald and i pretty sure even then people won't give Wald much credit but hey i am still looking forward to seeing this fight should be good.

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I think its a ko finish 4 either man, hayes chin is still suspect, but on the other hand haye has genuine ko power + when he hurts a man is an expert at finishing the job with speed and massive amounts of punches, similar to how pacman swarms on his opponents, roll on july! its finally a heavy weight clash worth watching!!

Becos haye has no respect afterall it's a gentlmens sport. I'm stick of Hayes mouth. Wlad is a top bloke and a quality fighter and haye needs to b taught a lesson. No one likes a disrespectfull mouth. No need

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Becos haye has no respect afterall it's a gentlmens sport. I'm stick of Hayes mouth. Wlad is a top bloke and a quality fighter and haye needs to b taught a lesson. No one likes a disrespectfull mouth. No need

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boxing loves a mouth

separates the sport we love from any other

as you get older youll realise this and start to love the nazes and eubanks and hayes

im tellin ye

Na I don't like twats and haye is nothing like eubank or naz!!! They had class, haye doesn't.

As u get older u will realize that.

I'm telling ya

Yer done

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Na I don't like twats and haye is nothing like eubank or naz!!! They had class, haye doesn't.

As u get older u will realize that.

I'm telling ya

Yer done

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naz had class? were you old enough to stay up for his fights?