Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2
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boxingbantz
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AdamGB
Who is perpetrating the myth that Tommy has aids when he doesn't... and what are they gaining from it?
Sorry but I just don't see a motive.
Someone who didn't like Rocky V?
Maybe it was union kane?! :o
Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2
I have just emailed Tommy with the questions provided by "nameless" answers posted shortly
Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2
Tommy's comeback fight was against my instructor John Castle. I don't know why John took the risk of fighting him.
Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2
Answers to "nameless"
Good questions nameless.
1)There are 80 non contagious ailments that are detected in the elisa and the western blot tests. (Russ list them plz-if you don't have the list I will resend).including toe fungus/lupus/h1n1 shot etc ect. The manufacturers state in their disclaimers in their test packets that their tests do NOT detect hiv infection. !! I have NEVER been tested for HIV infection nor HIV VIRUS. Find me the test and I will take it.
2) Robert Gallo is the so called inventor of HIV. In his words it is a human immune deficiency virus. So why can DOGS test positive on those 2 tests? Why is Robert Gallo not responding to my 205 days of asking him direct for the hiv virus test? If you want to call it a conspiracy go ahead. Scientists and doctors call it a medical fraud. If you had discovered/invented a virus would you not be willing to show people what it looked like?
3) Never refused to take a test to confirm the presence or absence of a contagious virus in Montreal. In fact I delayed my flight in canada-had a press conference-invited the media-invited Dr Wainberg from montreal to bring me the test and it would be televised. I emailed the montreal commission 3 times for the virus test. They never responded-the dr wainberg never showed. Be happy to forward you the emails.
4) If you have seen the actual contagious hiv virus and have proof of its existense and photos/ems of it from the human body- then send it to me. Send me the scientific papers showing the methods used to discover the virus. Gallo only completed 3 steps of isolation/purification. There are 7 scientific steps. Gallo forged the papers. If you want I can email them. Dated 1984.
What you are seeing are the side effects of the toxic medication that people are being given. The side effects are his version of his symptoms of the hypothetical hiv.
That "impossible to detect virus" - show it to me then. All the images on google/utube/gettys are computer generated and are not from a human being.
One for you:
Rather than be "nameless" - come out in the open. What do you have to hide?
Email me direct if you want I have the facts. I am living proof.
Get me the hiv virus test that detects 100percent the presence or absence of an active contagious human virus and a photo/em of what it really looks like.
Nameless - I fought in 06/07/08/09 - so why not in 2010 and beyond?
Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2
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russ010
Answers to "nameless"
Good questions nameless.
1)There are 80 non contagious ailments that are detected in the elisa and the western blot tests. (Russ list them plz-if you don't have the list I will resend).including toe fungus/lupus/h1n1 shot etc ect. The manufacturers state in their disclaimers in their test packets that their tests do NOT detect hiv infection. !! I have NEVER been tested for HIV infection nor HIV VIRUS. Find me the test and I will take it.
2) Robert Gallo is the so called inventor of HIV. In his words it is a human immune deficiency virus. So why can DOGS test positive on those 2 tests? Why is Robert Gallo not responding to my 205 days of asking him direct for the hiv virus test? If you want to call it a conspiracy go ahead. Scientists and doctors call it a medical fraud. If you had discovered/invented a virus would you not be willing to show people what it looked like?
3) Never refused to take a test to confirm the presence or absence of a contagious virus in Montreal. In fact I delayed my flight in canada-had a press conference-invited the media-invited Dr Wainberg from montreal to bring me the test and it would be televised. I emailed the montreal commission 3 times for the virus test. They never responded-the dr wainberg never showed. Be happy to forward you the emails.
4) If you have seen the actual contagious hiv virus and have proof of its existense and photos/ems of it from the human body- then send it to me. Send me the scientific papers showing the methods used to discover the virus. Gallo only completed 3 steps of isolation/purification. There are 7 scientific steps. Gallo forged the papers. If you want I can email them. Dated 1984.
What you are seeing are the side effects of the toxic medication that people are being given. The side effects are his version of his symptoms of the hypothetical hiv.
That "impossible to detect virus" - show it to me then. All the images on google/utube/gettys are computer generated and are not from a human being.
One for you:
Rather than be "nameless" - come out in the open. What do you have to hide?
Email me direct if you want I have the facts. I am living proof.
Get me the hiv virus test that detects 100percent the presence or absence of an active contagious human virus and a photo/em of what it really looks like.
Nameless - I fought in 06/07/08/09 - so why not in 2010 and beyond?
Can you ask Tommy if he has considered fighting in MMA again ? Perhaps they would have less stringent tests and there could be a good pay day in it. Mercer and Toney have tried MMA recently. Hell Butterbean has made a career out of it.
Also is Tommy still doing boxing seminars ? I remember a year ago or so he was doing one in Livermore, CA. I thought about going as its only a couple of hours away, but I didn't. I should have.
Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2
I'm not trying to add spark to the already big flame but I thought that the swine flu was abit of a fraud....everyone diganosed had to take this new form of VACINATION which mysteriously materialised within weeks to stop the epidemic....even people who didn't get it were incouraged to take the medicine.....I didn't incourage my family to take this medicine cause I DO NOT TRUST IT.....don't be surprised people getting really terrible side affects from this SO CALLED SWINE FLU VACINATION in years to come....and I can see where Tommy Morrison is coming from....NO EVIDENCE that HIV exists......and the VACINATION is DANGEROUS and causes very bad side effects...and KILLS!!!
Job Biscuit (Sometimes you have to ask yourself.....who makes the decisions)!!!
eh eh!!
Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2
Tell Tommy he was fun to watch, and thanks for the memories. Something is clearly causing mass degeneration though and he-you need to spend less time on websites but spend time with family...I would anyway.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter 'what' he has...it ain't good. Not at all.
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all this is very thrilling and exciting! i'm honored as a saddo member to be chosen by tommy to be involved in this exclusive expose and the heated debate it's generated. but, i wonder what tommy is trying to achieve. is it to get the chance to fight again? is it to reveal to the world the lies thrust upon the public generating hysteria and paranoia?
how many test has tommy had i wonder... was it just the one?
if he is in fact interested in clearing his name... all he'd have to do is have another test done; (or several if need be). with the media aware of his new test(s) and subsequent negative result(s) he would surely be allowed to box again. after all, it was a failed test that derailed his career... surely several passed tests would allow him to have his license restored and allow him to rejuvenate his career...
but instead he chooses to focus on the debate over whether the virus exists at all... something that he cannot prove, nor, should he prove his point, would grant him the return of his boxing license.
there in lies the problem that i believe most of the saddo-ers are trouble with. there seems to be an easy way to deal with the issue; if tommy is trying to revive his career...but if he's trying to expose a conspiracy or reveal a cover-up to the citizens of this planet...maybe trying to get fights in other countries, hoping their governing bodies are more lax or lenient, doesn't really help his case. there's certainly a better place than a boxing forum to have this discussion.
and so... i think its fair to say that nobody wants tommy to have hiv aids or any illness. but, faced with what we now know about his situation, based on his actions as well as the information given by doctors and health agencies around the world; we'd rather not have tommy participate in activities that may put other people's heath at risk...whether there is a test that 100% confirms aids & hiv or not.
i'd still like to know if russ would voluntarily take a blood transfusion from tommy...if he'd do me the honor of answering my question.
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"Russ" - you still haven't addressed the lesions on his body which is a common sign of the bug. Or the dramatic weight loss...
Re: Tommy Morrison Excusive interview part 2
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Otley
I'm not trying to add spark to the already big flame but I thought that the swine flu was abit of a fraud....everyone diganosed had to take this new form of VACINATION which mysteriously materialised within weeks to stop the epidemic....even people who didn't get it were incouraged to take the medicine.....I didn't incourage my family to take this medicine cause I DO NOT TRUST IT.....don't be surprised people getting really terrible side affects from this SO CALLED SWINE FLU VACINATION in years to come....and I can see where Tommy Morrison is coming from....NO EVIDENCE that HIV exists......and the VACINATION is DANGEROUS and causes very bad side effects...and KILLS!!!
Job Biscuit (Sometimes you have to ask yourself.....who makes the decisions)!!!
eh eh!!
There is a difference between detecting AIDS and taking an injection not to get Swine Flu (which I got 3 years ago btw and am not dead from it). Nowaday, they make 3-4 different tests on the person to make sure she's infected/not, chances that it detects something that doesn,t exist (compared to the 80th where they didn't have the technology/multiple tests we have now) are something like one chance over 150 000... so let's say... lidicrously low. Now somebody rich could make the test 2 times with 2 different agencies and you'd drop your chances that both are wrong to like one out of more than one million...
"the use of repeatedly reactive enzyme immunoassay followed by confirmatory Western blot or immunofluorescent assay remains the standard method for diagnosing HIV-1 infection. A large study of HIV testing in 752 U.S. laboratories reported a sensitivity of 99.7% and specificity of 98.5% for enzyme immunoassay, and studies in U.S. blood donors reported specificities of 99.8% and greater than 99.99%. With confirmatory Western blot, the chance of a false-positive identification in a low-prevalence setting is about 1 in 250 000 (95% CI, 1 in 173 000 to 1 in 379 000)"
Source by independant scientists from the annals of medical researches: http://www.annals.org/content/143/1/55.full
So, to take back some of Tommy's counter arguments:
1) What you describe as "un-accurate" tests was what we ha at the beginning of the 90th". nowaday tests are VERY precise, especially the crossing between ELISA test combined with the nucleic testing all at once. When the test has less than 0.5% of being wrong (with the crossed method), I doubt you can say that it is impossible to detect with a good accuracy.
2) In montreal you refused a blood draw and to provide conclusive documentation: our commision has been clear on the subject and we have some extremely qualified and neutral pros on the matter, if you want to fight on our land, it is to you to take the tests where the commision works and not to decide of the terms of how it should be conduced.
3) People die from AIDS, not necessarily from the treatment. I knew one guy who got AIDS, he got diagnosticated from it after he got tested for repeated unexplained infections. Once he got it, he decided to live fully and to not make the costy treatments and died of it a few years later. It is not exactly the "medicine anti aids" that did kill him.
4) I have nothing to hide, I have no name as alias here, is that worst than those who use a forum name like "redbaron, Bilbo, MAster" or any other forum name? ALso, it has nothing to do with being tested for a disease, the day I'll want to climb into the ring, I'll accept any damn medical tests they want to screen me with to assure the security of my opponent... as long as the other one is tested too for my own security in return.
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'Russ' could you 'email tommy' and ask him about the lesions/weight loss/pec implant scars that he has?
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