Re: Hattons Prime - The myth
I guess I touched a nerve by saying Hatton was never world-class. But I'm not backing off. History will not treat Hatton as kindly as his legions of fans. Hatton had a whole country's hopes on his shoulders, 'cause he basically started off as a good guy... an average Joe. Who basically worked his way to a world title fight. He was never an excellent boxer... just a scrappy guy with a lot of mauling and grabbing habits, which were basically winked at when he fought in the UK. He fought and beat a great fighter in Kostya Tszyu... and all hell broke loose. Never mind that he got away with murder in front of his home crowd and with a totally biased referee. His win over Kostya "elevated" him to superstar status, and got the snowball rolling, sort of speak. He did very little spectacular after that, and somehow got shots against Mayweather, and then Pacquiao. He was exposed by both. But in the grand scheme of things, Hatton will never be regarded as an ATG. Only as a fighter whose fans desperately WANTED him to be an ATG.
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Atg and world class are not the same thing Tito i mean come on now they just are not. I mean Cotto not atg but still world class would you not agree. I mean they are no Srl but they are still very good though.
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out of all the saddo boxing members who hates hatton the most snakey?
Nope... Snakey just loves Kosta the most! ;)
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out of all the saddo boxing members who hates hatton the most snakey?
nope... Snakey just loves kosta the most! ;)
god damn it spell his name right or i shall find you !!!!!
;d
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out of all the saddo boxing members who hates hatton the most snakey?
Nah VD wins that accolade mate ;)
snakey must be a contender, this is the second hatton hating thread he has started recently
i have man flu
Please show me the other thread I started? Hatton hating....how am I hatton hating? I have nothing against Hatton, I picked him against Pac and wanted him to go well. I picked against him against Floyd coz I knew Floyd was going to win.
Anyway I dont give a fuck about your labels ;)
alright alright dont get your knickers in a twist
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out of all the saddo boxing members who hates hatton the most snakey?
Nah VD wins that accolade mate ;)
snakey must be a contender, this is the second hatton hating thread he has started recently
i have man flu
Please show me the other thread I started? Hatton hating....how am I hatton hating? I have nothing against Hatton, I picked him against Pac and wanted him to go well. I picked against him against Floyd coz I knew Floyd was going to win.
Anyway I dont give a fuck about your labels ;)
alright alright dont get your knickers in a twist
Dont worry buddy they arent twisted ;)
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What was the question again?
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Atg and world class are not the same thing Tito i mean come on now they just are not. I mean Cotto not atg but still world class would you not agree. I mean they are no Srl but they are still very good though.
Cotto's way higher than Hatton on the historical list, IMO... but no... maybe not ATG material either. ATG's a pretty exclusive list, and should be reserved for the elite of the elite.
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Yea but you call him world class though i mean you were making atg and world class the same thing from what i was reading. I do not think they are the same thing i mean there a big difference in them.
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What was the question again?
Who are you?
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I guess I touched a nerve by saying Hatton was never world-class. But I'm not backing off. History will not treat Hatton as kindly as his legions of fans. Hatton had a whole country's hopes on his shoulders, 'cause he basically started off as a good guy... an average Joe. Who basically worked his way to a world title fight. He was never an excellent boxer... just a scrappy guy with a lot of mauling and grabbing habits, which were basically winked at when he fought in the UK. He fought and beat a great fighter in Kostya Tszyu... and all hell broke loose. Never mind that he got away with murder in front of his home crowd and with a totally biased referee. His win over Kostya "elevated" him to superstar status, and got the snowball rolling, sort of speak. He did very little spectacular after that, and somehow got shots against Mayweather, and then Pacquiao. He was exposed by both. But in the grand scheme of things, Hatton will never be regarded as an ATG. Only as a fighter whose fans desperately WANTED him to be an ATG.
I figure he 'somehow got a shot a mayweather' due to him being regarded as the kingpin at LWW and a title holder at WW. Mayweather was the only real option left and it made sense for marketing value.
I would of loved to seen a fight between Junito and himself before the Mayweather fight, just a shame they missed each other. The body punches going to and fro in that fight would of been immense !!
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What was the question again?
Who are you?
You made it into the type of article you didnt want, basically we are all boxing fans and for some reason you dont like Hatton, leave it at that and move on!
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out of all the saddo boxing members who hates hatton the most snakey?
Nah VD wins that accolade mate ;)
snakey must be a contender, this is the second hatton hating thread he has started recently
i have man flu
Please show me the other thread I started? Hatton hating....how am I hatton hating? I have nothing against Hatton, I picked him against Pac and wanted him to go well. I picked against him against Floyd coz I knew Floyd was going to win.
Anyway I dont give a fuck about your labels ;)
alright alright dont get your knickers in a twist
Dont worry buddy they arent twisted ;)
phew
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My own definition of "world-class" is elite, among the world's best. Maybe on the p4p list. Hatton was none of the above. There's been plenty of fighters that have fought for world titles under less than deserving circumstances. We all know that. Hatton's list of opponents does not impress me. And I'm not alone in my opinion, either. I just happen to voice mine.
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He was amongst the world best considering he was 'the man' at 140. By definition, there was nobody better in the world at his weight class.
I'm pretty sure he also had a top ten p4p ranking with Ring Magazine. Might have even been top 5/6 after the Castillo win.
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Also Tito you say Cotto was way ahead of Hatton but he was never lienal champ in any division. He was never the man at lw, ww, and now lmw. He got close at ww but could not get to the top of the division.
