Re: Juan manuel marquez aka el dinamita army
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I don't know why some posters keep saying that Marquez won twice. If they present it as their opinion, then they are entitled to it. But they make it appear as fact. Based on what? I assume it's because they have knowledge that more people (probably not even a hundred) believe that Marquez won. There are likely to have been more than 500,000 people who watched the first and second fights so whatever knowledge they have is not even a representative sample of all the people who watched. It's like saying that McCain should have won the last US presidential election instead of Obama based on their survey of 1,000 people.
The official score is a DRAW and a WIN FOR PACQUIAO in the two fights that are too close to call. Give it a rest.
Okay, Pac got the verdict of the judges in their second bout. But
boxing scoring is not an exact science and when you have
most boxing writers and forum members arguing that Marquez won then you have to give that its weight as well.
This means that the boxing writers and forum members judging are likewise not an exact science. So how can one be better than the other when both are not exact science. And what do you mean by most? How many are this in numbers?
They say history is only written by the winners, but that does not mean that we ignore what really happened and what contemporary commentators really thought at the time.
But you are giving great value to the scores of those commentators who agrees with you. How many commentators did you know of that expressed their opinion as to who won?
The second fight in particular was close, but
most believe Marquez edged it.
How many in numbers is this 'most' that you talk about with regards to all the people who watched the fight.?
You already said that boxing scoring is not an exact science so until they find a better way on how to score a fight, we can disagree with the result but in a VERY CLOSE fight, you cannot insist that your score is right and the judges are wrong.
Yes, I can because a
lot more people agree with me. I believe that boxing writers are not as stupid as they appear.
Can you put that 'lot' in numbers? Because some people consider 10 as a lot.
How many boxing writers are there in the world who watched both fights and how many of their opinions do you know of?
Are you for real?
An adequate selection is listed on boxing rec and forum polls are there for you to search at will.
Re: Juan manuel marquez aka el dinamita army
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InTheNeutralCorner
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I don't know why some posters keep saying that Marquez won twice. If they present it as their opinion, then they are entitled to it. But they make it appear as fact. Based on what? I assume it's because they have knowledge that more people (probably not even a hundred) believe that Marquez won. There are likely to have been more than 500,000 people who watched the first and second fights so whatever knowledge they have is not even a representative sample of all the people who watched. It's like saying that McCain should have won the last US presidential election instead of Obama based on their survey of 1,000 people.
The official score is a DRAW and a WIN FOR PACQUIAO in the two fights that are too close to call. Give it a rest.
Okay, Pac got the verdict of the judges in their second bout. But
boxing scoring is not an exact science and when you have
most boxing writers and forum members arguing that Marquez won then you have to give that its weight as well.
This means that the boxing writers and forum members judging are likewise not an exact science. So how can one be better than the other when both are not exact science. And what do you mean by most? How many are this in numbers?
They say history is only written by the winners, but that does not mean that we ignore what really happened and what contemporary commentators really thought at the time.
But you are giving great value to the scores of those commentators who agrees with you. How many commentators did you know of that expressed their opinion as to who won?
The second fight in particular was close, but
most believe Marquez edged it.
How many in numbers is this 'most' that you talk about with regards to all the people who watched the fight.?
You already said that boxing scoring is not an exact science so until they find a better way on how to score a fight, we can disagree with the result but in a VERY CLOSE fight, you cannot insist that your score is right and the judges are wrong.
Yes, I can because a
lot more people agree with me. I believe that boxing writers are not as stupid as they appear.
Can you put that 'lot' in numbers? Because some people consider 10 as a lot.
How many boxing writers are there in the world who watched both fights and how many of their opinions do you know of?
Are you for real?
An adequate selection is listed on boxing rec and forum polls are there for you to search at will.
I am asking how many do you know? If you are relying on their opinion, then you should know. An estimate or a simple answer like 'I don't know' is okey.
Re: Juan manuel marquez aka el dinamita army
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
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miles
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
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InTheNeutralCorner
I don't know why some posters keep saying that Marquez won twice. If they present it as their opinion, then they are entitled to it. But they make it appear as fact. Based on what? I assume it's because they have knowledge that more people (probably not even a hundred) believe that Marquez won. There are likely to have been more than 500,000 people who watched the first and second fights so whatever knowledge they have is not even a representative sample of all the people who watched. It's like saying that McCain should have won the last US presidential election instead of Obama based on their survey of 1,000 people.
The official score is a DRAW and a WIN FOR PACQUIAO in the two fights that are too close to call. Give it a rest.
Okay, Pac got the verdict of the judges in their second bout. But
boxing scoring is not an exact science and when you have
most boxing writers and forum members arguing that Marquez won then you have to give that its weight as well.
This means that the boxing writers and forum members judging are likewise not an exact science. So how can one be better than the other when both are not exact science. And what do you mean by most? How many are this in numbers?
They say history is only written by the winners, but that does not mean that we ignore what really happened and what contemporary commentators really thought at the time.
But you are giving great value to the scores of those commentators who agrees with you. How many commentators did you know of that expressed their opinion as to who won?
The second fight in particular was close, but
most believe Marquez edged it.
How many in numbers is this 'most' that you talk about with regards to all the people who watched the fight.?
You already said that boxing scoring is not an exact science so until they find a better way on how to score a fight, we can disagree with the result but in a VERY CLOSE fight, you cannot insist that your score is right and the judges are wrong.
Yes, I can because a
lot more people agree with me. I believe that boxing writers are not as stupid as they appear.
Can you put that 'lot' in numbers? Because some people consider 10 as a lot.
How many boxing writers are there in the world who watched both fights and how many of their opinions do you know of?
Are you for real?
An adequate selection is listed on boxing rec and forum polls are there for you to search at will.
I am asking how many do
you know? If you are relying on their opinion, then you should know. An estimate or a simple answer like 'I don't know' is okey.
So I need to know them on some personal basis? What are you talking about?
Re: Juan manuel marquez aka el dinamita army
'In the neutral corner' is the archetype Pacman troll, he gets like this before every fight.
Re: Juan manuel marquez aka el dinamita army
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
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miles
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
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InTheNeutralCorner
I don't know why some posters keep saying that Marquez won twice. If they present it as their opinion, then they are entitled to it. But they make it appear as fact. Based on what? I assume it's because they have knowledge that more people (probably not even a hundred) believe that Marquez won. There are likely to have been more than 500,000 people who watched the first and second fights so whatever knowledge they have is not even a representative sample of all the people who watched. It's like saying that McCain should have won the last US presidential election instead of Obama based on their survey of 1,000 people.
The official score is a DRAW and a WIN FOR PACQUIAO in the two fights that are too close to call. Give it a rest.
Okay, Pac got the verdict of the judges in their second bout. But
boxing scoring is not an exact science and when you have
most boxing writers and forum members arguing that Marquez won then you have to give that its weight as well.
This means that the boxing writers and forum members judging are likewise not an exact science. So how can one be better than the other when both are not exact science. And what do you mean by most? How many are this in numbers?
They say history is only written by the winners, but that does not mean that we ignore what really happened and what contemporary commentators really thought at the time.
But you are giving great value to the scores of those commentators who agrees with you. How many commentators did you know of that expressed their opinion as to who won?
The second fight in particular was close, but
most believe Marquez edged it.
How many in numbers is this 'most' that you talk about with regards to all the people who watched the fight.?
You already said that boxing scoring is not an exact science so until they find a better way on how to score a fight, we can disagree with the result but in a VERY CLOSE fight, you cannot insist that your score is right and the judges are wrong.
Yes, I can because a
lot more people agree with me. I believe that boxing writers are not as stupid as they appear.
Can you put that 'lot' in numbers? Because some people consider 10 as a lot.
How many boxing writers are there in the world who watched both fights and how many of their opinions do you know of?
Are you for real?
An adequate selection is listed on boxing rec and forum polls are there for you to search at will.
I am asking how many do
you know? If you are relying on their opinion, then you should know. An estimate or a simple answer like 'I don't know' is okey.
So I need to know them on some personal basis? What are you talking about?
If you are going against a fact (draw and a Pacquiao win based on official judges scoring) and insist that Marquez won both fights, then you should at least back it up with something objective (numbers of those who actually thought JMM won) and not something subjective (a lot, more, bunch).
Re: Juan manuel marquez aka el dinamita army
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miles
'In the neutral corner' is the archetype Pacman troll, he gets like this before every fight.
You cannot answer some simple questions, so you retort to name calling. Pathetic.
I am just asking those who insist (not those who rendered them as an opinion) that Marquez won twice to back up their claims. I am not even extolling any Pacquiao virtues.
Re: Juan manuel marquez aka el dinamita army
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
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miles
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
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InTheNeutralCorner
I don't know why some posters keep saying that Marquez won twice. If they present it as their opinion, then they are entitled to it. But they make it appear as fact. Based on what? I assume it's because they have knowledge that more people (probably not even a hundred) believe that Marquez won. There are likely to have been more than 500,000 people who watched the first and second fights so whatever knowledge they have is not even a representative sample of all the people who watched. It's like saying that McCain should have won the last US presidential election instead of Obama based on their survey of 1,000 people.
The official score is a DRAW and a WIN FOR PACQUIAO in the two fights that are too close to call. Give it a rest.
Okay, Pac got the verdict of the judges in their second bout. But
boxing scoring is not an exact science and when you have
most boxing writers and forum members arguing that Marquez won then you have to give that its weight as well.
This means that the boxing writers and forum members judging are likewise not an exact science. So how can one be better than the other when both are not exact science. And what do you mean by most? How many are this in numbers?
They say history is only written by the winners, but that does not mean that we ignore what really happened and what contemporary commentators really thought at the time.
But you are giving great value to the scores of those commentators who agrees with you. How many commentators did you know of that expressed their opinion as to who won?
The second fight in particular was close, but
most believe Marquez edged it.
How many in numbers is this 'most' that you talk about with regards to all the people who watched the fight.?
You already said that boxing scoring is not an exact science so until they find a better way on how to score a fight, we can disagree with the result but in a VERY CLOSE fight, you cannot insist that your score is right and the judges are wrong.
Yes, I can because a
lot more people agree with me. I believe that boxing writers are not as stupid as they appear.
Can you put that 'lot' in numbers? Because some people consider 10 as a lot.
How many boxing writers are there in the world who watched both fights and how many of their opinions do you know of?
Are you for real?
An adequate selection is listed on boxing rec and forum polls are there for you to search at will.
I am asking how many do
you know? If you are relying on their opinion, then you should know. An estimate or a simple answer like 'I don't know' is okey.
So I need to know them on some personal basis? What are you talking about?
If you are going against a fact (draw and a Pacquiao win based on official judges scoring) and insist that Marquez won both fights, then you should at least back it up with something objective (numbers of those who actually thought JMM won) and not something subjective (a lot, more, bunch).
You are really talking a lot of hogwash, but that is the norm from you. Marquez is known as the victor of the last fight and convincingly so, I don't even know what you are arguing about here.
I gave you a source for a lot of views on the verdict of that second fight and you keep on coming back talking like a gay.
Re: Juan manuel marquez aka el dinamita army
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You are really talking a lot of hogwash, but that is the norm from you. Marquez is known as the victor of the last fight and convincingly so, I don't even know what you are arguing about here.
I gave you a source for a lot of views on the verdict of that second fight and you keep on coming back talking like a gay.
Known by who? Convincingly? So the perception is wrong that it's a close fight?
Still can't give the estimate, can you? Hurry up with an objective reply because I have to go somewhere soon. And another name calling, lol!
Re: Juan manuel marquez aka el dinamita army
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
You are really talking a lot of hogwash, but that is the norm from you. Marquez is known as the victor of the last fight and convincingly so, I don't even know what you are arguing about here.
I gave you a source for a lot of views on the verdict of that second fight and you keep on coming back talking like a gay.
Known by who?
Still can't give the estimate, can you? Hurry up with an objective reply because I have to go somewhere soon. And another name calling, lol!
I have no idea what you are talking about. 'Known by who'? How does that relate to anything I wrote?
It is impossible to reply to you because you don't make any sense. Most writers think Pac lost the last fight and you just talk gibberish. It is understandable. You are dumb and have never studied, you just hang off a couple of testicles.
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miles
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
You are really talking a lot of hogwash, but that is the norm from you. Marquez is known as the victor of the last fight and convincingly so, I don't even know what you are arguing about here.
I gave you a source for a lot of views on the verdict of that second fight and you keep on coming back talking like a gay.
Known by who?
Still can't give the estimate, can you? Hurry up with an objective reply because I have to go somewhere soon. And another name calling, lol!
I have no idea what you are talking about. 'Known by who'? How does that relate to anything I wrote?
It is impossible to reply to you because you don't make any sense.
Most writers think Pac lost the last fight and you just talk gibberish. It is understandable. You are dumb and have never studied, you just hang off a couple of testicles.
You are the one who wrote that 'known' and now you don't have any idea who those are.
There you go with that subjective word ('most') again. Anything objective to back it up.
Third name calling and an insult. As you can see, I'm still sticking to what is being discussed and not retorted to them.
Re: Juan manuel marquez aka el dinamita army
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
You are really talking a lot of hogwash, but that is the norm from you. Marquez is known as the victor of the last fight and convincingly so, I don't even know what you are arguing about here.
I gave you a source for a lot of views on the verdict of that second fight and you keep on coming back talking like a gay.
Known by who?
Still can't give the estimate, can you? Hurry up with an objective reply because I have to go somewhere soon. And another name calling, lol!
I have no idea what you are talking about. 'Known by who'? How does that relate to anything I wrote?
It is impossible to reply to you because you don't make any sense.
Most writers think Pac lost the last fight and you just talk gibberish. It is understandable. You are dumb and have never studied, you just hang off a couple of testicles.
You are the one who wrote that 'known' and now you don't have any idea who those are.
There you go with that subjective word ('most') again. Anything objective to back it up.
Third name calling and an insult. As you can see, I'm still sticking to what is being discussed and not retorted to them.
I gave you a source.
Marquez beat Paquiao the second time out. :rolleyes:
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Do you want me to really insult you?
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miles
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
You are really talking a lot of hogwash, but that is the norm from you. Marquez is known as the victor of the last fight and convincingly so, I don't even know what you are arguing about here.
I gave you a source for a lot of views on the verdict of that second fight and you keep on coming back talking like a gay.
Known by who?
Still can't give the estimate, can you? Hurry up with an objective reply because I have to go somewhere soon. And another name calling, lol!
I have no idea what you are talking about. 'Known by who'? How does that relate to anything I wrote?
It is impossible to reply to you because you don't make any sense.
Most writers think Pac lost the last fight and you just talk gibberish. It is understandable. You are dumb and have never studied, you just hang off a couple of testicles.
You are the one who wrote that 'known' and now you don't have any idea who those are.
There you go with that subjective word ('most') again. Anything objective to back it up.
Third name calling and an insult. As you can see, I'm still sticking to what is being discussed and not retorted to them.
I gave you a source.
Marquez beat Paquiao the second time out. :rolleyes:
So okey ..... estimate number of people who thought Marquez won is unknown.
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
You are really talking a lot of hogwash, but that is the norm from you. Marquez is known as the victor of the last fight and convincingly so, I don't even know what you are arguing about here.
I gave you a source for a lot of views on the verdict of that second fight and you keep on coming back talking like a gay.
Known by who?
Still can't give the estimate, can you? Hurry up with an objective reply because I have to go somewhere soon. And another name calling, lol!
I have no idea what you are talking about. 'Known by who'? How does that relate to anything I wrote?
It is impossible to reply to you because you don't make any sense.
Most writers think Pac lost the last fight and you just talk gibberish. It is understandable. You are dumb and have never studied, you just hang off a couple of testicles.
You are the one who wrote that 'known' and now you don't have any idea who those are.
There you go with that subjective word ('most') again. Anything objective to back it up.
Third name calling and an insult. As you can see, I'm still sticking to what is being discussed and not retorted to them.
I gave you a source.
Marquez beat Paquiao the second time out. :rolleyes:
So okey ..... estimate number of people who thought Marquez won is unknown.
This is stupid. You are begging to be insulted.
Re: Juan manuel marquez aka el dinamita army
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miles
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
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InTheNeutralCorner
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miles
You are really talking a lot of hogwash, but that is the norm from you. Marquez is known as the victor of the last fight and convincingly so, I don't even know what you are arguing about here.
I gave you a source for a lot of views on the verdict of that second fight and you keep on coming back talking like a gay.
Known by who?
Still can't give the estimate, can you? Hurry up with an objective reply because I have to go somewhere soon. And another name calling, lol!
I have no idea what you are talking about. 'Known by who'? How does that relate to anything I wrote?
It is impossible to reply to you because you don't make any sense.
Most writers think Pac lost the last fight and you just talk gibberish. It is understandable. You are dumb and have never studied, you just hang off a couple of testicles.
You are the one who wrote that 'known' and now you don't have any idea who those are.
There you go with that subjective word ('most') again. Anything objective to back it up.
Third name calling and an insult. As you can see, I'm still sticking to what is being discussed and not retorted to them.
I gave you a source.
Marquez beat Paquiao the second time out. :rolleyes:
So okey ..... estimate number of people who thought Marquez won is unknown.
This is stupid. You are begging to be insulted.
What, you also don't agree with that? What is it then?
..... I'm out.
