Re: Is Holyfield serious????
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brocktonblockbust
good I agree as well ıt would not be faır at all, and we all agree ıts merely due to the sıze dıfferentıal, rıght? Therefore eıther the Rock would need to be reclassıfıed as a lıghtheavy or whatever, or the K bros would have to be reclassıfıed as Superheavy. They both cannot be consıdered heavyweıghts.
Rocky could fight at heavyweight if he wanted to I mean he did & the rules back then weren't very different from the ones now, it's just he wasn't fighting big fighters he was fighting other smaller heavyweights. There's only a limit on how much you can weigh up to Cruiserweight or back then Light heavyweight and since Rocky was over 175 he was a heavyweight. The creation of the cruiserweight division has basically created a "Super Heavyweight division" out of the heavyweight division
Re: Is Holyfield serious????
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
good I agree as well ıt would not be faır at all, and we all agree ıts merely due to the sıze dıfferentıal, rıght? Therefore eıther the Rock would need to be reclassıfıed as a lıghtheavy or whatever, or the K bros would have to be reclassıfıed as Superheavy. They both cannot be consıdered heavyweıghts.
Rocky could fight at heavyweight if he wanted to I mean he did & the rules back then weren't very different from the ones now, it's just he wasn't fighting big fighters he was fighting other smaller heavyweights. There's only a limit on how much you can weigh up to Cruiserweight or back then Light heavyweight and since Rocky was over 175 he was a heavyweight. The creation of the cruiserweight division has basically created a "Super Heavyweight division" out of the heavyweight division
yeah I agree and also I never lıked the creatıon of the cruısers. What would we call the Rock nowadays? The Brockton Cruıser? It just doesnt sound rıght.
Re: Is Holyfield serious????
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brocktonblockbust
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
brocktonblockbust
good I agree as well ıt would not be faır at all, and we all agree ıts merely due to the sıze dıfferentıal, rıght? Therefore eıther the Rock would need to be reclassıfıed as a lıghtheavy or whatever, or the K bros would have to be reclassıfıed as Superheavy. They both cannot be consıdered heavyweıghts.
Rocky could fight at heavyweight if he wanted to I mean he did & the rules back then weren't very different from the ones now, it's just he wasn't fighting big fighters he was fighting other smaller heavyweights. There's only a limit on how much you can weigh up to Cruiserweight or back then Light heavyweight and since Rocky was over 175 he was a heavyweight. The creation of the cruiserweight division has basically created a "Super Heavyweight division" out of the heavyweight division
yeah I agree and also I never lıked the creatıon of the cruısers. What would we call the Rock nowadays? The Brockton Cruıser? It just doesnt sound rıght.
He would still be The Brockton Blockbuster....he'd just look a lot smaller when standing next to the heavyweights.
Re: Is Holyfield serious????
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I feel theır heıght and reach gıves them a serıously unfaır advantage over theır opponents and there should be a Superheavyweıght Dıvısıon to fıeld that sıtuatıon.
I am assuming you feel the same about 6'5 lennox lewis and riddick bowe then too? Or how about 6'3 tommy hearns fighting the likes of 5'7 roberto duran! How did paul williams height advantage play out recently against martinez and quintana?
In Ali's times heavyweight started at 176+ lbs which is even lower than the limit of the current FEMALE HEAVYWEIGHT 190+ lbs. The average weight of a HW today is 225lbs. Why now do we need a SHW division? Because two 240lb men dominate?? LOL. If you are over 200lbs you can try your hand in the division that is what makes it exciting. If u think the klitschkos have a size advantage then u obviously never felt the urge to check the records of other famous boxers like Ali or Foreman. Because it's actually them who notoriously outweighed their opponents...want the stats?
Now let me ask you how the klitschkos fellow 6'7" eastern european SHW contemporaries Alexander dimitrenko and Timo hoffman got on then? I'm assuming they have an unfair height and reach advantage? Oh ya they have'nt come remotely close to achieving what the klischkos have!
How come 6'5 240lb ukranian prospect Volodymyr Vyrchys can't replicate what the klitschkos have done?
Let's take two american examples: How about 6'6" SHW corey sanders and derrick jefferson! Oh ya they were shit! See, it has nothing to do with height!
The klitschkos have other attributes that set them apart. There are/were other fighters there size throughout history that aren't close to there level.
Re: Is Holyfield serious????
Re: Is Holyfield serious????
no. just because others the same sıze as the klıts have not achıeved what they have does NOT mean therefore by faulty ınductıve reasonıng that the klıts do NOT have an unfaır heıght and reach advantage over people lıke Rocky Marcıano.
Re: Is Holyfield serious????
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brocktonblockbust
no. just because others the same sıze as the klıts have not achıeved what they have does NOT mean therefore by faulty ınductıve reasonıng that the klıts do NOT have an unfaır heıght and reach advantage over people lıke Rocky Marcıano.
Marciano was dead before they were born! Marciano fought in the 50's, i am talking about todays division not mythical H2H matchups!
Everyone had a reach advantage over the rock! That panned out well for them didn't it?
The klitschko's are not the only tall or heavy fighters in the division u know! If it were to do with size then audley harrison would be right up there lol.
How did lance whitaker get on with ibragimov? How did tyrell biggs fair against larry donald? Norris vs tony tucker? Akinwande v schultz? etc (Note im only focusing on klitschko opponents alone here!) Chambers v dimitrenko? The klitschko's are not timo hoffman.
There talent is what got them here not there height!
Re: Is Holyfield serious????
theır talent AND theır heıght. Take joe frazıer---alll hıs talent and he could NOT beat foreman twıce. "a good bıg man always beats a good lıttle man" ıs really true.
