Froch opponent announced: Yusef Mack

The first knockdown against Lacy for Reid came while the ref was shouting stop. The ref shouts stop 3 times and Reid is looking and talking to the ref, Lacy looks at the ref, then back to Reid and winds up a huge right hook and cracks it on the side of Reids face while Reod is still being told to stop by the ref! He then goes down on a knee in a delayed reaction amd the ref warns Reid for using his head but says fuck all to Lacy for hotting during a break.

Lacy also goes on his ass and the ref helps him up! That fight was a joke. Reid wasnt looking great but was getting in to ot until that shit cheap shot. Up until then some big punchers had bounced their best shots off Reids chin and not moved him. It was a joke.

My thoughts reading the last page are that Carl Froch would be deservedly pissed off if he logged on here, and read the thread about him announcing his next fight, to find it filled with talk of Calzaghe, Reid and Cleverly.

Carl's put in so many hard performances in hostile arenas against the best in the division that he deserves the home fight, and he deserves a big crowd to come and watch him beat a game opponent, and have a nice big easy payday before Christmas. Maybe he can use that money to buy a ball-gag to shut his missus up during his fights, and he might pick up even more fans.

Froch would have a massive fan base if he was on ITV or BBC and I believe theyd get very good ratings with his fights as well.

He doesnt do any promotion, you never see him on chat shows or anything other than boxing programmes. Unfortunately, as much good as he has done for his career in the ring, he has done fuck all outside of it to get those extra bottoms in seats.

Proboxing is an entertainment business, its in his best interests to be more recognised and the only people he has appealed to are those that know or follow boxing already. What has he done to draw the average sport fan that doesnt watch boxing?

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Froch would have a massive fan base if he was on ITV or BBC and I believe theyd get very good ratings with his fights as well.

He doesnt do any promotion, you never see him on chat shows or anything other than boxing programmes. Unfortunately, as much good as he has done for his career in the ring, he has done fuck all outside of it to get those extra bottoms in seats.

Proboxing is an entertainment business, its in his best interests to be more recognised and the only people he has appealed to are those that know or follow boxing already. What has he done to draw the average sport fan that doesnt watch boxing?

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I think a sex tape leaked on the internet might get his name better known among the general public.

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The first knockdown against Lacy for Reid came while the ref was shouting stop. The ref shouts stop 3 times and Reid is looking and talking to the ref, Lacy looks at the ref, then back to Reid and winds up a huge right hook and cracks it on the side of Reids face while Reod is still being told to stop by the ref! He then goes down on a knee in a delayed reaction amd the ref warns Reid for using his head but says fuck all to Lacy for hotting during a break.

Lacy also goes on his ass and the ref helps him up! That fight was a joke. Reid wasnt looking great but was getting in to ot until that shit cheap shot. Up until then some big punchers had bounced their best shots off Reids chin and not moved him. It was a joke.

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Horrible officiating in that fight, Reid did not get a fair shake. But, you could see he was losing it, he was off and just did not look comfortable in there or sharp at all. Wasn't his night and he's done jack shit since then.

He was one tough SOB though and I will always remember him getting dropped and just everything going wrong for him and at the very worst of it when he's knocked down for the second or third time he just calmly kneels there and winks at his corner then gets back up for more.

THAT is a fighter.

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Originally Posted by ross

The first knockdown against Lacy for Reid came while the ref was shouting stop. The ref shouts stop 3 times and Reid is looking and talking to the ref, Lacy looks at the ref, then back to Reid and winds up a huge right hook and cracks it on the side of Reids face while Reod is still being told to stop by the ref! He then goes down on a knee in a delayed reaction amd the ref warns Reid for using his head but says fuck all to Lacy for hotting during a break.

Lacy also goes on his ass and the ref helps him up! That fight was a joke. Reid wasnt looking great but was getting in to ot until that shit cheap shot. Up until then some big punchers had bounced their best shots off Reids chin and not moved him. It was a joke.

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Horrible officiating in that fight, Reid did not get a fair shake. But, you could see he was losing it, he was off and just did not look comfortable in there or sharp at all. Wasn't his night and he's done jack shit since then.

He was one tough SOB though and I will always remember him getting dropped and just everything going wrong for him and at the very worst of it when he's knocked down for the second or third time he just calmly kneels there and winks at his corner then gets back up for more.

THAT is a fighter.

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The last knockdown, he was allmost decapitated!

His corner didnt want to see him go on. That first knockdown though started it and it was a foul that should have got Lacy at worst a point and Reid time to recover or any unbiassed ref would have disqualified the cross eyed twat!

If Reid had a warm up fight before that he would have done miles better. When he fought Froch, he had fought Jesse Brinkley about a year before in the usa v uk contender show and then had a fight scheduled with a comebacking glenn cattley but cattley bottled it so Reid was again inactive before the Froch fight. Not that I think hed have won but at
least a few more rounds in him.

Lacy pre calzaghe was a fookin animal.... everyone was saying lacy is gunna take joes' head off following the reid fight!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGmypecF8s8

Here he is taking syd vanderpool (who beat glenn johnson and lost on points to bhop) apart:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA1SCQisG7Q

Calzaghe ruined him. Broke him as a man and a boxer. Calzaghe was spellbinding that night, he took an undefeated up n coming rival champions soul....totally and completely! My favourite ever single performance by any modern day fighter!

Froch fought some early fights on the BBC and fought Pascal and Taylor on ITV.

If Froch had been with FW for the majority of his career, instead of Hennessy, he'd have a shit record, although unbeaten, and hardcore fans would hate him but he'd probably be much more famous.

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Lacy pre calzaghe was a fookin animal.... everyone was saying lacy is gunna take joes' head off following the reid fight!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGmypecF8s8

Here he is taking syd vanderpool (who beat glenn johnson and lost on points to bhop) apart:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA1SCQisG7Q

Calzaghe ruined him. Broke him as a man and a boxer. Calzaghe was spellbinding that night, he took an undefeated up n coming rival champions soul....totally and completely! My favourite ever single performance by any modern day fighter!

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Go to 5.20 and watch how Lacy cheated the dirty little prick. Even the american commentators think the ref is a cunt! Keep listening for a while after they are amazed that Alonso calls it a knockdown and doesnt do anything to Lacy!

YouTube - Jeff Lacy vs Robin Reid - 2/3

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Originally Posted by THE PHILOSOPHER

Lacy pre calzaghe was a fookin animal.... everyone was saying lacy is gunna take joes' head off following the reid fight!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGmypecF8s8

Here he is taking syd vanderpool (who beat glenn johnson and lost on points to bhop) apart:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA1SCQisG7Q

Calzaghe ruined him. Broke him as a man and a boxer. Calzaghe was spellbinding that night, he took an undefeated up n coming rival champions soul....totally and completely! My favourite ever single performance by any modern day fighter!

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Lacy did look good before Calzaghe

Reid was miles past his best when the fought tho

honestly i think reid would have done lacy in his pomp

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The point isn't that Calzaghe is directly involved in Froch's desicion making... Just that the situation of a well established champion not wanting to fight guys who are no where near as established is one that can be compared to calzaghe not fighting froch.

I doubt Froch worries about Calzaghe when chosing fights, I think Froch has done OK without Calzaghe, don't you?

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naa youre getting too deep, if the money there nowt else matters

and Froch would make more money fighting Clev than all but a handful of other fighters at the same/similar weights

Perhaps he could make more fighting Kes, or the bute fight might draw a similar amount

if martinez stepped up maybe, hopkins? Bellew?

and lets be honest, hopkins martinez is very unrealistic

so :vd::vd: back to you :)

But Calzaghe didnt fight him so i doubt he will fight clev

To be fair at least Cleverly is known on the world stage, whereas when Froch was calling Calzaghe out, Joe was one of the biggest names in World boxing and in the top ten pound for pound directly after Kessler, whereas Froch had still to fight his first former world title holder or even challenger, which was Reid;)

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To be fair at least Cleverly is known on the world stage, whereas when Froch was calling Calzaghe out, Joe was one of the biggest names in World boxing and in the top ten pound for pound directly after Kessler, whereas Froch had still to fight his first former world title holder or even challenger, which was Reid;)

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when froch was calling out calzaghe, calzaghe was coming to the end of his career

calzaghe had the chance of bigger money fights with big name americans, thats why they never fought

had froch been in the position to fight joe a 3 or 4 years earlier then you never know

Cleverly isn't even close to being a big money option for Froch. He's been defending his "world" title on James DeGale undercards. The Bellew fight was put in Liverpool. His headline bill in Wales was in front of a couple/few thousand.

Groves/Degale/Macklin/Bellew - those Brits would be bigger fights around that weight let alone the worldwide mob.