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Well that is the case with all hypothetical matches and opinion on them. Inbred or not. Toney would get killed and Haye would be charged with raping and pillaging the village which is Toney. And ftr the Celts achieved a lot more then Toney ever did historically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Unless it happens you can never prove it. Thus needs his chance. Unlike Celtic inbreds Toney was actually an aciever.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Prime James Toney would KTFO the Celts though, you have to admit;D That counter right hand would show them all a thing or two about head hunting.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitWell that is the case with all hypothetical matches and opinion on them. Inbred or not. Toney would get killed and Haye would be charged with raping and pillaging the village which is Toney. And ftr the Celts achieved a lot more then Toney ever did historically.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfUnless it happens you can never prove it. Thus needs his chance. Unlike Celtic inbreds Toney was actually an aciever.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
It would be a sight to see to watch an old, shot, fat, bloated 5'9" 250 lb James Toney fight a giant 6'6" 250 lb muscle bound Ukrainian like Wladimir Klitschko
Would definitely be a freak show ...
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Originally Posted by p4pkingPrime James Toney would KTFO the Celts though, you have to admit;D That counter right hand would show them all a thing or two about head hunting.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitWell that is the case with all hypothetical matches and opinion on them. Inbred or not. Toney would get killed and Haye would be charged with raping and pillaging the village which is Toney. And ftr the Celts achieved a lot more then Toney ever did historically.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfUnless it happens you can never prove it. Thus needs his chance. Unlike Celtic inbreds Toney was actually an aciever.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Lol oh w/o doubt. A Hadrian's wall.
I could be wrong, I'm just not convinced. It's a very convenient excuse. Not as sketchy as taking anabolic steroids to treat an injury commonly seen in people who have trained whilst using anabolic steroids (shit I've just went cross eyed), which was the original excuse back in 05.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerQuote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
He has a host of hormone problems other then testosterone.
Either way, one thing is certain and that is that the sport and training regime have not been kind to Toney, he is a wreck and wanting to see him fight a top tier guy is unethical and all of the fodder that the 'boxing is barbaric and should be banned' lobby need.
Miles... I know you have an inexplicable level of adoration for Toney... but come on. That's pretty weak logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfUnless it happens you can never prove it.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
If it were any worse then it would be the same as saying that you can't prove that we can't prove who would win a sprint until Toney runs 100m against Usain Bolt.
When you get fighters at a similar level in their careers you can say such things, but Toney is so ruined that it is no where near close enough to make such assertions.
Before you say 'you can never bne 100% certain', you're right... but you can be more than certain enough! ;)
You know I am tired of these older fighters (and younger ones too) who sit around claiming that they are being ignored or avoided. Mush for brains Holyfield I think finally got the message that no one worthwhile was going to give him a fight because it wouldn't mean a damn thing unless they killed him in the ring. Which going by his current financial siuation might not be a bad idea for Evander. At least Heaven wouldn't be sueing him for back taxes. Toney is totally washed up and needs to shut up. His record is based on the past and not on his current abilities. And speaking of crybabies on the younger side David Haye PLEASE SHUT UP AND RETIRE ALREADY!
Just my two cents worth.
All I want is for someone in the top 10 top put him out of his misery if that is the consensus. I've got no issues with people thinking Toney is done, but let me see it with my own eyes and without blatant leg injuries. Just someone in the top 20 then, just someone call that man and let him prove for himself if he can put on a show or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBMiles... I know you have an inexplicable level of adoration for Toney... but come on. That's pretty weak logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by GandalfUnless it happens you can never prove it.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
If it were any worse then it would be the same as saying that you can't prove that we can't prove who would win a sprint until Toney runs 100m against Usain Bolt.
When you get fighters at a similar level in their careers you can say such things, but Toney is so ruined that it is no where near close enough to make such assertions.
Before you say 'you can never bne 100% certain', you're right... but you can be more than certain enough! ;)
He loses and it is done, accepted. But Toney has been wronged. He beat Rahman and Rahman got a shot, everyone avoids him because he 'is old', the truth is Toney is just too testy and no younger fighter wants to be embarrarred.
Kubrat Pulev or Olander Solis I'd be interested in seeing fight Toney.
Testy? His 'testies' are his problem! ;)
Good call on those two suggestions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Dont know if anyone managed to watch the Toney v Browne fight but here it is apart from a section of round 4. Apparently Tomey had Browne hurt and in trouble and its just been cut out;D
For as fat and out of shape Toney is he doesn't do too bad but thats mainly because Lucas Browne is dog shit and not the massive puncher he has been made out to be.
James Toney vs Lucas Browne [Full Fight] - YouTube
The best thing for James Toney is to ignore him. IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
Toney needs to be knocked out to make him realise that its time to call it a day.