Re: Kovalev vs Cleverly predictions august 17th
Guys, don't steal the thread to argue the merit of GGG's praise. He's got his own thread.
This is about Kovalev and Cleverly, which is a damn good match-up. Is it Cleverly's coming out party? Is Kovalev the beast that his last few fights have made him out to be? There are enough good story lines to keep boxing fans on this thread busy.
Re: Kovalev vs Cleverly predictions august 17th
Re: Kovalev vs Cleverly predictions august 17th
He sounds like way too much of the father and not the trainer talking there. Guarantee a KO...the pressure of Lateef f'n Kayode and guys like Chisora lead to that conclusion??? That's just goofy. I really think they might be focussing too much on what they think will be basic raw power and lose the fact Kovalev has boxing skill and killer set up.
Re: Kovalev vs Cleverly predictions august 17th
Any decent fighter Cleverly has ever faced, he's been quickly drawn into a punch-up. He's never used his size or range to his advantage.
Bloody good fight though. Either Cleverly gets exposed as the phoney champ or he gets a good win over a respected opponent (albeit one that's never fought for a "world" title like all Clev's other victims).
Re: Kovalev vs Cleverly predictions august 17th
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Any decent fighter Cleverly has ever faced, he's been quickly drawn into a punch-up. He's never used his size or range to his advantage.
Bloody good fight though. Either Cleverly gets exposed as the phoney champ or he gets a good win over a respected opponent (albeit one that's never fought for a "world" title like all Clev's other victims).
I think sooner rather than later the fight becomes a war and Cleverley gets stopped or flattened. He might land more than Kovalev but Kovalev has the power and will land enough to do serious damage. Although I need to see more Kovalev, I've only seen his last fight.
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Any decent fighter Cleverly has ever faced, he's been quickly drawn into a punch-up. He's never used his size or range to his advantage.
Bloody good fight though. Either Cleverly gets exposed as the phoney champ or he gets a good win over a respected opponent (albeit one that's never fought for a "world" title like all Clev's other victims).
I think sooner rather than later the fight becomes a war and Cleverley gets stopped or flattened. He might land more than Kovalev but Kovalev has the power and will land enough to do serious damage. Although I need to see more Kovalev, I've only seen his last fight.
If Cleverly can take Bellows power he can take Kovalev's.
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Any decent fighter Cleverly has ever faced, he's been quickly drawn into a punch-up. He's never used his size or range to his advantage.
Bloody good fight though. Either Cleverly gets exposed as the phoney champ or he gets a good win over a respected opponent (albeit one that's never fought for a "world" title like all Clev's other victims).
I think sooner rather than later the fight becomes a war and Cleverley gets stopped or flattened. He might land more than Kovalev but Kovalev has the power and will land enough to do serious damage. Although I need to see more Kovalev, I've only seen his last fight.
If Cleverly can take Bellows power he can take Kovalev's.
Bellew's power is way overated. Well, by Bellew and Master at least.
I do think Cleverly has a good chin, but he needs to have with his 'defense'.
I think he could take some punishment here but win a close points decision. He needs a decent trainer to move forward though.
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Any decent fighter Cleverly has ever faced, he's been quickly drawn into a punch-up. He's never used his size or range to his advantage.
Bloody good fight though. Either Cleverly gets exposed as the phoney champ or he gets a good win over a respected opponent (albeit one that's never fought for a "world" title like all Clev's other victims).
I think sooner rather than later the fight becomes a war and Cleverley gets stopped or flattened. He might land more than Kovalev but Kovalev has the power and will land enough to do serious damage. Although I need to see more Kovalev, I've only seen his last fight.
If Cleverly can take Bellows power he can take Kovalev's.
Bellew's power is way overated. Well, by Bellew and Master at least.
I do think Cleverly has a good chin, but he needs to have with his 'defense'.
I think he could take some punishment here but win a close points decision. He needs a decent trainer to move forward though.
I agree about the trainer but Cleverly chin and work rate got him his victory against Bellow.
Re: Kovalev vs Cleverly predictions august 17th
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Fenster
Any decent fighter Cleverly has ever faced, he's been quickly drawn into a punch-up. He's never used his size or range to his advantage.
Bloody good fight though. Either Cleverly gets exposed as the phoney champ or he gets a good win over a respected opponent (albeit one that's never fought for a "world" title like all Clev's other victims).
I'm not familiar with the inner workings of Cleverly and camp but maybe they are doing the standard ploy, ko talk. John david Jackson will be too smart for a bait and switch though. Maybe he'll choose here to pull out all the stops and actually use head and skill. He's def got a chip on his shoulder but if he is one to get sucked into a fire fight when tagged, he'll get his chance but it'll come with a price. The problem with having and leading with a 'good chin' is that you have to prove it 100 percent of the time or you wake up under the lights with a man throwing many fingers in your face.
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Any decent fighter Cleverly has ever faced, he's been quickly drawn into a punch-up. He's never used his size or range to his advantage.
Bloody good fight though. Either Cleverly gets exposed as the phoney champ or he gets a good win over a respected opponent (albeit one that's never fought for a "world" title like all Clev's other victims).
I think sooner rather than later the fight becomes a war and Cleverley gets stopped or flattened. He might land more than Kovalev but Kovalev has the power and will land enough to do serious damage. Although I need to see more Kovalev, I've only seen his last fight.
If Cleverly can take Bellows power he can take Kovalev's.
How do you figure?
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Master
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Fenster
Any decent fighter Cleverly has ever faced, he's been quickly drawn into a punch-up. He's never used his size or range to his advantage.
Bloody good fight though. Either Cleverly gets exposed as the phoney champ or he gets a good win over a respected opponent (albeit one that's never fought for a "world" title like all Clev's other victims).
I think sooner rather than later the fight becomes a war and Cleverley gets stopped or flattened. He might land more than Kovalev but Kovalev has the power and will land enough to do serious damage. Although I need to see more Kovalev, I've only seen his last fight.
If Cleverly can take Bellows power he can take Kovalev's.
How do you figure?
Bellow is a monster puncher.
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Master
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Rantcatrat
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Master
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Kirkland Laing
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Fenster
Any decent fighter Cleverly has ever faced, he's been quickly drawn into a punch-up. He's never used his size or range to his advantage.
Bloody good fight though. Either Cleverly gets exposed as the phoney champ or he gets a good win over a respected opponent (albeit one that's never fought for a "world" title like all Clev's other victims).
I think sooner rather than later the fight becomes a war and Cleverley gets stopped or flattened. He might land more than Kovalev but Kovalev has the power and will land enough to do serious damage. Although I need to see more Kovalev, I've only seen his last fight.
If Cleverly can take Bellows power he can take Kovalev's.
How do you figure?
Bellow is a monster puncher.
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Re: Kovalev vs Cleverly predictions august 17th