Re: Danny Garcia vs Lucas Mattysse
I honestly see Matthysse as a more complete package than Garcia and I think he will be suprised by his ability to box and invest to the body. Anyone thinking Lucas is just a bomb chucking clod needing or thirsting for a ko is reading more into a Peterson clubbing than the ones they accuse of doing so. Matthysse is an accumulative and strengthing fighter as a fight goes and Garcia, too me, looked rattled, stuck between styles and faded down the stretch vs Judah. Danny is very very live and fast of hand and both are riding huge momentum but both can also be hit. Of the two, I really think Garcia will land and runs a massive risk of then over commiting and not staying in the tight right package he'll need to as he attacks. Rinse -repeat or box off and let Mattysse feel some sting and use his legs up following. Matthysse lays his bricks a couple at a time, to body and head equally and he has the confidence of a guy not trying to light the fire before he sees smoke. All bs aside, I like Garcia and have said he's a breath of fresh air for the sport but I think Matthysse actually out thinks him and eventually grinds him down for a late win.
Re: Danny Garcia vs Lucas Mattysse
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Garcia is the naturally bigger fighter. And the more rounded fighter. He doesn't hit as hard as Matthyse. But he does possess good power. And I think he has the better chin.
Those are some of the factors that make garcia the winner!
Come on danny.
*what! im agreeing with u! damn... we r in for a crazy night of fights then... I also like Garcia. Matthese's power might be the best below 150 pounds, other than a couple of guys from the filipines... BUT, Garcia is not powder puff... Garcia is the real deal. I can see Matthese hurt very early in this one...
Re: Danny Garcia vs Lucas Mattysse
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I hope garcia wins.
No one likes him but he gets the job done.
no one like his dad
if he was my dad id tell him not to come to the pressers
what an embarrassment
I think he has helped danny to be honest eric in regards to the mental state of last few opponents
Perhaps not as much in this one because lucas dont speak english but im sure they translate some of the crap angel says.
youre probably right
and its definately helped raise his profile
Re: Danny Garcia vs Lucas Mattysse
*I like Danny's dad, he tells it like he thinks he see's it. he's NOOOO different than a lot of Puerto Ricans I knew in the ARMY... a lot of energy, loud and crazy... and does he help Danny? hell yea it does... at the end of a presser, everyone's talking about this dude... it's mental warefare and no one does it better that Angel Garcia.
Re: Danny Garcia vs Lucas Mattysse
Danny's dad is OK for an ignorant bumbling racist.
Re: Danny Garcia vs Lucas Mattysse
This is the main event for me and I think Lucas will break Garcia down and lay down the hurt from the 6th onwards. If Judah is going to take the second half of the fight against you, then you are not going to do much against Mattyse down the stretch. I think Garcia will start fresh, but when he realises that he is in with an all round boxer puncher, he will start to get hurt.
Re: Danny Garcia vs Lucas Mattysse
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If the peterson fight never happened what would be your honest view on matthysse?
Would he still be this monster?
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Not as much of a monster. That's for sure. Peterson was coming off a big TKO win over Kendall Holt and Matthysse walked right through him.
Funny thing is that Peterson hasn't fought since and it's been more than six months and still no speculation about his next fight. He still has the belt too. It appears at least on first glance that Matthysse might have ruined Peterson's career.
The Peterson win is better than any win on Garcia's ledger too.
Is Garcia good enough to smother Matthysse's power or stay out of range of it? I think that might be difference in this fight.
In any event, gentlemen, this is going to be a first rate scrap that we're all looking forward to. May the best man win.
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Count me amongst those who have this as a pick 'em. Matthysse has the edge in power and experience, but there is an air about Garcia that makes me think he is a special fighter. This feels a lot like the build-up to the Pavlik-Miranda fight where we saw a hyped up power-puncher get taken apart by a bigger, more skilled opponent.
Lucas is nothing like miranda, miranda couldn't box for shit! Lucas is a good enough boxer puncher that he should have got the decisions in both his losses, both of whom are some dam good boxers. I mean miranda was as crude as they come to compare lucas to that is doing him a big disservice.
I'm not really comparing the fighters, just the general feeling in the build up. At that time, Miranda was thought of as a murderous puncher who everyone was ducking and Pavlik was seen by many to be a sacrificial lamb. However, like Garcia, he was bigger than his opponent and a better boxer. I wouldn't be all that surprised to see the same result here, though I hope I am wrong.
As I said before I think garcia has had a bit of luck and lucas hasn't and hell be more up for this than danny. Also I don't remember many people looking at pavlik as the sacrificial lamb but instead anticipating a crazy war but maybe my memory's off
I remember there being some people who gave Pavlik a shot, but most thought that Miranda was going to knock him out. It's not really a very good comparison aside from the fact that I think perceptions of the fighters going in were somewhat similar.
Re: Danny Garcia vs Lucas Mattysse
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Danny's dad is OK for an ignorant bumbling racist.
*where's he a racist
Re: Danny Garcia vs Lucas Mattysse
ive decided im putting my money on Garcia, its a great bet considering the odds
Re: Danny Garcia vs Lucas Mattysse
I cant see Garcia winning this and dont know why everyone thinks its a close fight. Nothing I have seen in any of Garcias fights make show me what he brings to the table. Matthysse is the bigger puncher, has better defense, and looks the better technician too. Garcia probably has an edge in speed but even that is closer then most think.
My prediction is Garcia gets caught early with a straight right when throwing a hook, gets up and gets finished that round or the following round.
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Danny's dad is OK for an ignorant bumbling racist.
*where's he a racist
Look at his history and the quotes hes made and make your own mind up.
*that's not racist...ur too sensitive.
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Danny's dad is OK for an ignorant bumbling racist.
*where's he a racist
Look at his history and the quotes hes made and make your own mind up.
*that's not racist...ur too sensitive.
So you don't regard him racist? You must accept he's an ignorant prejudiced moron though? Whether or not he entertains you he's thick as shit. Fact.