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The thing is Jerry i don't care who Oscar would lose to because Tito clearly lost to Oscar. I mean you would pretty much have no knowledge of boxing to give the fight to Tito much like the judges did. One of the worst decision i have ever seen only other ones being Holyfeild vs Lennox first fight.
Aside from those two fights, the only other egregious boxing decision that is equal or tops that was/is the RJJ Gold Medal match at the Seoul Olympics in 1988. That and the Pac-Man/Bradley fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
(I think the RJJ robbery was the worst robbery of all time...)
It doesn't get worse than RJJ/Park Si Hung.
Hey man Oscar didn't even really fight a full match, he did something no boxer has done in history, he possibly got hit with something in the 9th round which made him think that his best chances to win the fight was to run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Jerry are telling me you think Tito won that fight thats all i need to know see were we stand. Reason being if you scored that fight for Tito then i don't think much of your knowledge at scoring fights. Do you really think Tito won that fight thats is all i have to know dude.
I had Tito nicking the fight, it was obvious ODH won the middle rounds and lost the last few so it all comes down to how you scored the early rounds which were close but Tito won most of those.
I think the best out come for Tito would be a draw and that would be generous. I just find it funny when rice brings up Bernard and Jones and then ask how Oscar would do but ignores that Tito could not even beat Oscar himself. Also lets not forget were both fighters started fighting at as Tito was a bigger guy in general. I mean Oscar started off at 130 and then went to 160 Tito started at 147 so i don't think it really that fair to compare there jumps up in weight really. I would be interest to see your score cards round by round master i might redo mine again.
It is a long time since I watched it and it was not a great fight to watch and I generally do not score fights again. The fight I have watched the most are ODH and Tito's fight with Vargas, they were both at their best. Great fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
I agree ODH was the smaller fighter and did brilliantly going up in weight and taking on Pernell, Ike and Tito as these guys would not fight one another.
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Originally Posted by Master
Couldn't have put it better myself.
Actually Tito started off at 140, I just find it funny how so many fans give Hopkins all the credit in the world for beating Tito and no credit for beating Oscar, its hilarious how one minute De La Hoya fans want to convince me that Tito is naturally bigger than Oscar and the next minute tell me that Tito and Hopkins are the same size, complete oxymoron.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Mr140
This post is funny, you give me all the resistance in the world and now you're open to someone else's opinion.
Well he at least answered my question i dont think you have told me who you scored the fight for.I don't agree with master but he did at least give me a answer to the question you have yet to. Do you not think Tito is not bigger then Oscar in weight and also who do you think won the fight.
He should have been disqualified against Vargas.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIt is a long time since I watched it and it was not a great fight to watch and I generally do not score fights again. The fight I have watched the most are ODH and Tito's fight with Vargas, they were both at their best. Great fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
I agree ODH was the smaller fighter and did brilliantly going up in weight and taking on Pernell, Ike and Tito as these guys would not fight one another.
The punching low?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingHe should have been disqualified against Vargas.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIt is a long time since I watched it and it was not a great fight to watch and I generally do not score fights again. The fight I have watched the most are ODH and Tito's fight with Vargas, they were both at their best. Great fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
I agree ODH was the smaller fighter and did brilliantly going up in weight and taking on Pernell, Ike and Tito as these guys would not fight one another.
that's just laughable, Vargas did more acting and hitting low, difference is Trinidad didn't bitch and cry about it, and ODH didn't do brilliantly against Whitaker, most people felt he lost, same against QuarteyQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingHe should have been disqualified against Vargas.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterIt is a long time since I watched it and it was not a great fight to watch and I generally do not score fights again. The fight I have watched the most are ODH and Tito's fight with Vargas, they were both at their best. Great fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
I agree ODH was the smaller fighter and did brilliantly going up in weight and taking on Pernell, Ike and Tito as these guys would not fight one another.