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Considering the class Haye has fought in compared with Fury, you have to say Haye has the stronger chin. Fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Yeah, by people who weigh over 200lbQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Is it more of an acheivment to get knocked over by smaller people?;D
or a better defenceQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterConsidering the class Haye has fought in compared with Fury, you have to say Haye has the stronger chin. Fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYeah, by people who weigh over 200lbQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Is it more of an acheivment to get knocked over by smaller people?;D
And a better defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44or a better defenceQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterConsidering the class Haye has fought in compared with Fury, you have to say Haye has the stronger chin. Fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYeah, by people who weigh over 200lbQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Is it more of an acheivment to get knocked over by smaller people?;D
But Haye definitely has the stronger chin. Even ross can't prove that wrong. Fact.
yeah but to sum up, he has fought better fighters since moving up to heavy and hasn't been down from a punch apart from a very dubious knock down against barrett so he either has a better defence or a better chinQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterAnd a better defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44or a better defenceQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterConsidering the class Haye has fought in compared with Fury, you have to say Haye has the stronger chin. Fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYeah, by people who weigh over 200lbQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Is it more of an acheivment to get knocked over by smaller people?;D
But Haye definitely has the stronger chin. Even ross can't prove that wrong. Fact.
but if he hasn't then what is the conclusion? ross?
Carl "The Truth" Williams came our of retirement. hehehehehe....Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus
But, seriously: The biggest puncher Haye has been in with IS Carl THOMPSON and Wlad. With Thompson he was stopped cold and against Wlad, he got hit a few times and ran the entire fight.
Fury isn't a very hard and spark-like puncher. But I don't see Haye landing the way he needs to to end the fight.
Haye's power is good, but it isn't THAT good. Haye can smack a guy, but they all get back up. I have never seen him spark a guy out cold- Haye doesn't have that much power.
I feel Fury has the presence of mind to stick around even when he gets hit.
But, when he gets hit (Fury), Haye has to jump on him and hit him again- may get a 3 knockdown rule.
and 3,2,1...Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterAnd a better defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44or a better defenceQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterConsidering the class Haye has fought in compared with Fury, you have to say Haye has the stronger chin. Fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYeah, by people who weigh over 200lbQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Is it more of an acheivment to get knocked over by smaller people?;D
But Haye definitely has the stronger chin. Even ross can't prove that wrong. Fact.
Lolenga Mock;D
A cruiser weight that gets splattered by a super middleweight with only 12 kos from 31 wins (6 from 21 at the time they fought which is why he was chosen) does not have a good heavyweight chin:rolleyes:
Perhaps thinking of Arthur Williams? Shall we clear that up before going into the rest of that nonsense ;D
But can we say a Tommy Hearns at WW sparks anyone? Some times it isn't the size, it's the velocity behind the punch. Few people had it- Tommy Hearns, Ernie Shavers, Mike Tyson, Deontay Wilder, Julian Jackson and Rocky Marciano had it- and would have it at any weight once they kept their form and mechanics.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossand 3,2,1...Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterAnd a better defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44or a better defenceQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterConsidering the class Haye has fought in compared with Fury, you have to say Haye has the stronger chin. Fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYeah, by people who weigh over 200lbQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Is it more of an acheivment to get knocked over by smaller people?;D
But Haye definitely has the stronger chin. Even ross can't prove that wrong. Fact.
Lolenga Mock;D
A cruiser weight that gets splattered by a super middleweight with only 12 kos from 31 wins (6 from 21 at the time they fought which is why he was chosen) does not have a good heavyweight chin:rolleyes:
So a blown up MW can spark a HW. It can happen!
If we are to believe that Fury is a puncher at HW with a less than solid chin , then everybody is over looking the chance of Fury upper cutting himself and losing by KO.
I hope Fury wins because the big goofy fuck is starting to grow on me.
But I think Haye will whip him.
BOOM!!!! Lolenga Mock finally turns up. Never in doubt ;D
Did you see the mess Haye was in the Mock fight? It wasnt just a BANG got caught went down got back up and carried on fighting. He went down a few times and took Mock down with him!Quote:
Originally Posted by ykdadamajaBut can we say a Tommy Hearns at WW sparks anyone? Some times it isn't the size, it's the velocity behind the punch. Few people had it- Tommy Hearns, Ernie Shavers, Mike Tyson, Deontay Wilder, Julian Jackson and Rocky Marciano had it- and would have it at any weight once they kept their form and mechanics.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossand 3,2,1...Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterAnd a better defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44or a better defenceQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterConsidering the class Haye has fought in compared with Fury, you have to say Haye has the stronger chin. Fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYeah, by people who weigh over 200lbQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Is it more of an acheivment to get knocked over by smaller people?;D
But Haye definitely has the stronger chin. Even ross can't prove that wrong. Fact.
Lolenga Mock;D
A cruiser weight that gets splattered by a super middleweight with only 12 kos from 31 wins (6 from 21 at the time they fought which is why he was chosen) does not have a good heavyweight chin:rolleyes:
So a blown up MW can spark a HW. It can happen!
Thomas Hearns is a puncher. Mock is not. 6 Kos from 22 fights?;D:rolleyes:
if any feather fisted supermiddle can knock him down he must have a good defence then as he hasn't been put down as a HW from a thump on the chinQuote:
Originally Posted by rossand 3,2,1...Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterAnd a better defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44or a better defenceQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterConsidering the class Haye has fought in compared with Fury, you have to say Haye has the stronger chin. Fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYeah, by people who weigh over 200lbQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Is it more of an acheivment to get knocked over by smaller people?;D
But Haye definitely has the stronger chin. Even ross can't prove that wrong. Fact.
Lolenga Mock;D
A cruiser weight that gets splattered by a super middleweight with only 12 kos from 31 wins (6 from 21 at the time they fought which is why he was chosen) does not have a good heavyweight chin:rolleyes:
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Apart from Barrett.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44if any feather fisted supermiddle can knock him down he must have a good defence then as he hasn't been put down as a HW from a thump on the chinQuote:
Originally Posted by rossand 3,2,1...Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterAnd a better defence.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44or a better defenceQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterConsidering the class Haye has fought in compared with Fury, you have to say Haye has the stronger chin. Fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYeah, by people who weigh over 200lbQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Is it more of an acheivment to get knocked over by smaller people?;D
But Haye definitely has the stronger chin. Even ross can't prove that wrong. Fact.
Lolenga Mock;D
A cruiser weight that gets splattered by a super middleweight with only 12 kos from 31 wins (6 from 21 at the time they fought which is why he was chosen) does not have a good heavyweight chin:rolleyes:
@erics44 1 @ross 0
ha ha hahahaha ha ahaha haaaaar
Who has Haye beaten at heavyweight that was ever regarded as a banger on the world scene?;D
You can dress up statistics all you want but the reality is Hayes heavyweight opponents have been chosen for the sole purpose of getting to Wlad. He was always banging on about the Sanders fight and thought he could replicate that with his speed. He was wrong and this fight is a retirement fund.