Take action now- tell Russia : Release the Greenpeace activists

True mate,whatever different groups get up to ,most are trying their best for you and believe that they have to try to help us, so we have to let it go even when they do get annoying tapping on the door during a Satanic ritual or what not ;D.

The Salvos are the best in my mind though they really get their hands dirty they are in and out of jails on the streets feeding the poor sheltering the young and vulnerable and they do it even when it leans on their other rules .
We had a couple of young kids out on the street very late one night here the girl underage by a few months the boyfriend just over so the government wouldnt help them out during the day and wanted them parted.The Salvos stepped in at about 9pm that night after i called them and put the two of them up in a motel for a night to keep them from sleeping out in a park and her being at risk cause there was no way young bloke couldnt of protected her on his own.

Let these Greenpeace idiots rot in a Russian jail.

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Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Let these Greenpeace idiots rot in a Russian jail.

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Nice.

So Gazprom is now more important as an entity than the Arctic ?

Is it really just and commendable to imprison those drawing attention to a stupid and greed driven enterprise, eschewing any human rights those protesters and accompanying journalists may have, just to protect a global energy corporation from any bad publicity?

Greenpeace protests at Arctic conference, decrying Russia's detention of activists | Alaska Dispatch

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The trouble with activism is that there are to many activists. Greenpeace is as big a multinational as those it protests against. It fuels them lol as it did the boat motors and expense they committed to which allowed the protest. Its the very reason Watson quit and the very reason I quit the Sierra Club 25 years ago. Walmart activism. The fossil fuel war ends with the supply. Same with drugs. It remains to be seen whether we witness either.

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Originally Posted by IamInuit

The trouble with activism is that there are to many activists. Greenpeace is as big a multinational as those it protests against. It fuels them lol as it did the boat motors and expense they committed to which allowed the protest. Its the very reason Watson quit and the very reason I quit the Sierra Club 25 years ago. Walmart activism. The fossil fuel war ends with the supply. Same with drugs. It remains to be seen whether we witness either.

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Watson and Sea shepherd, gotta love that action its for real; now that can be seen as piracy of sorts.

But Green peace? Like you say, they are far from it, even lame.

Sounds like this piracy action is a legal manipulation from business insiders to drain Greenpeace funds so the same big business can go onto plunder natural reserves unheeded. I bet down the track the lawyers, politicians police etc that keep Greenpeace off their backs will get their big kick backs or future funding taken care of.

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Gazprom are one of the largest companies in the world. Greenpeace foundation have done nothing to highlight the problems associated with drilling in the Arctic. I am not a member of either organisation, what you would call the multi national or the original Vancouver based charity. What Russia is doing in bastardising a law for piracy that does not apply here is wrong though. Imprisoning people on behalf of a company is what it is and it took me no time to sign to say I think such behaviour is wrong. Even Putin admitted it was not piracy and as usual many westerners turn away and avert their gaze as Russia does as it pleases.

Drilling for Oil in the Arctic is dangerous,expensive and creates huge risk to wildllife many of which migrate there. In ice and with little hope of a rational and quality response a spill would be disastrous. I don't think risking imprisonment for your beliefs can fairly be called lame, whoever you work/volunteer for. They have created awareness and for that I am grateful.

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Nice.

So Gazprom is now more important as an entity than the Arctic ?

Is it really just and commendable to imprison those drawing attention to a stupid and greed driven enterprise, eschewing any human rights those protesters and accompanying journalists may have, just to protect a global energy corporation from any bad publicity?

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I don't necessarily disagree with Greenpeace's causes, but I disagree heavily with their methods.

Guys, please, cut this crap
The West hates Russia because we do not support gay's stuff
The rest, like this Greenpeace bullshit, is simply one way of many using some "serious reason" to put more sticks in our wheels
I suggest the Greenpeace activists to fix problems in their countries first, then go bug Russia

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I don't think risking imprisonment for your beliefs can fairly be called lame, whoever you work/volunteer for. They have created awareness and for that I am grateful.

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Here's the reality, though: people, in general, are lazy. Only a small minority will dig deeper into a story.

Just about every article on this situation talks about the act and the consequences. People are told that some activists tried to storm a rig, got arrested for piracy, and are now being refused bail. Only a small blip of these articles (and a lot of times, not even a blip) actually address the actual issues and grievances Greenpeace has.

This is why I hate their methods.

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Drilling for Oil in the Arctic is dangerous,expensive and creates huge risk to wildllife many of which migrate there. In ice and with little hope of a rational and quality response a spill would be disastrous. I don't think risking imprisonment for your beliefs can fairly be called lame, whoever you work/volunteer for. They have created awareness and for that I am grateful.

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What if one day you realize this was one big LIE?

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Drilling for Oil in the Arctic is dangerous,expensive and creates huge risk to wildllife many of which migrate there. In ice and with little hope of a rational and quality response a spill would be disastrous. I don't think risking imprisonment for your beliefs can fairly be called lame, whoever you work/volunteer for. They have created awareness and for that I am grateful.

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What if one day you realize this was one big LIE?

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What the foundation of your beliefs ?

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Originally Posted by NVSemin

Guys, please, cut this crap
The West hates Russia because we do not support gay's stuff
The rest, like this Greenpeace bullshit, is simply one way of many using some "serious reason" to put more sticks in our wheels
I suggest the Greenpeace activists to fix problems in their countries first, then go bug Russia

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If that is true why are you using a British based website ?

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

I don't think risking imprisonment for your beliefs can fairly be called lame, whoever you work/volunteer for. They have created awareness and for that I am grateful.

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Here's the reality, though: people, in general, are lazy. Only a small minority will dig deeper into a story.

Just about every article on this situation talks about the act and the consequences. People are told that some activists tried to storm a rig, got arrested for piracy, and are now being refused bail. Only a small blip of these articles (and a lot of times, not even a blip) actually address the actual issues and grievances Greenpeace has.

This is why I hate their methods.

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Arent those The Sea Shepard methods?

I thought Greenpeace dont storm aboard anything , they just get in the way and video record what people are doing?

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I don't think risking imprisonment for your beliefs can fairly be called lame, whoever you work/volunteer for. They have created awareness and for that I am grateful.

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Here's the reality, though: people, in general, are lazy. Only a small minority will dig deeper into a story.

Just about every article on this situation talks about the act and the consequences. People are told that some activists tried to storm a rig, got arrested for piracy, and are now being refused bail. Only a small blip of these articles (and a lot of times, not even a blip) actually address the actual issues and grievances Greenpeace has.

This is why I hate their methods.

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Arent those The Sea Shepard methods?

I thought Greenpeace dont storm aboard anything , they just get in the way and video record what people are doing?

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My understanding is that they boarded the rig.

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Originally Posted by NVSemin

Guys, please, cut this crap
The West hates Russia because we do not support gay's stuff
The rest, like this Greenpeace bullshit, is simply one way of many using some "serious reason" to put more sticks in our wheels
I suggest the Greenpeace activists to fix problems in their countries first, then go bug Russia

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If that is true why are you using a British based website ?

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Why you want to know? You do not care anyway, since you just do not like me
Deep in your heart, you know, I am better.

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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Drilling for Oil in the Arctic is dangerous,expensive and creates huge risk to wildllife many of which migrate there. In ice and with little hope of a rational and quality response a spill would be disastrous. I don't think risking imprisonment for your beliefs can fairly be called lame, whoever you work/volunteer for. They have created awareness and for that I am grateful.

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What if one day you realize this was one big LIE?

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What the foundation of your beliefs ?

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That's called "Iceman vs Maverick" strategy

When certain people force fear by making others believe something or somebody is "unsafe", and then that they can provide a way out. In reality, these certain people do not care at all actually, they only want control and its benefits. Watched TOP GUN? "I do not like you, because you are dangerous". Greenpeace using the same trick against Gazprom. US government using the same trick with terrorists to force their policy world wide. Russia uses it in certain areas too. That's politics.

P.S. How can a jew be so naive, btw?