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'Ripped'? So what? Ripped? Like Jeff Lacy?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossBefore Ali fought Liston he was dropped hard by 180lb british journeyman Henry Cooper who had a less than 50% KO ratio and 195lb Sonny Banks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Fury has been dropped by an ripped 210lb former world champ fighter and another weighing 232lb both 6,3" not light heavyweight journeymen.
Im not comparing Fury to Ali you fucking morons! Like you said, Ali had a granite chin but he was thought to be very vulnerable as he was getting hurt and dropped and awarded gift decisions against very small heavyweights that werent even punchers.
If a heavyweight weighs in at 210lbs then it means he is just a cruiserweight that didn't sweat the 10lbs of water
Yea the kid really rates Cunningham , wonder if its because he was mauled into submission by fury ?:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB'Ripped'? So what? Ripped? Like Jeff Lacy?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossBefore Ali fought Liston he was dropped hard by 180lb british journeyman Henry Cooper who had a less than 50% KO ratio and 195lb Sonny Banks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Fury has been dropped by an ripped 210lb former world champ fighter and another weighing 232lb both 6,3" not light heavyweight journeymen.
Im not comparing Fury to Ali you fucking morons! Like you said, Ali had a granite chin but he was thought to be very vulnerable as he was getting hurt and dropped and awarded gift decisions against very small heavyweights that werent even punchers.
If a heavyweight weighs in at 210lbs then it means he is just a cruiserweight that didn't sweat the 10lbs of water
Ripped means hes not carrying much if any fat and is more a genuine heavyweight than Stiverne and Arreola who if they lost their fat and their (10lb of water) would probably weigh less than Cunningham.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlYea the kid really rates Cunningham , wonder if its because he was mauled into submission by fury ?:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB'Ripped'? So what? Ripped? Like Jeff Lacy?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossBefore Ali fought Liston he was dropped hard by 180lb british journeyman Henry Cooper who had a less than 50% KO ratio and 195lb Sonny Banks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Fury has been dropped by an ripped 210lb former world champ fighter and another weighing 232lb both 6,3" not light heavyweight journeymen.
Im not comparing Fury to Ali you fucking morons! Like you said, Ali had a granite chin but he was thought to be very vulnerable as he was getting hurt and dropped and awarded gift decisions against very small heavyweights that werent even punchers.
If a heavyweight weighs in at 210lbs then it means he is just a cruiserweight that didn't sweat the 10lbs of water
Cunningham should have been awarded the decision against Adamek, who comfortably beat Arreola who is soon to be fighting to be the second best heavy in the world. He will be fighting someone who was stopped by a journeyman and held to a draw by another journeyman.
Cunningham is also the only fighter to have stopped Marco Huck and Huck fought Povetkin, a heavyweight, who Huck beat up pretty much and was unlucky not to get the decision against.
All that really matters in this is Fury lost to John McDermott. Aka he is shit!
Why are you discrediting that victory? Fury beat him with a clean punch,fair and square...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlYea the kid really rates Cunningham , wonder if its because he was mauled into submission by fury ?:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB'Ripped'? So what? Ripped? Like Jeff Lacy?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossBefore Ali fought Liston he was dropped hard by 180lb british journeyman Henry Cooper who had a less than 50% KO ratio and 195lb Sonny Banks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Fury has been dropped by an ripped 210lb former world champ fighter and another weighing 232lb both 6,3" not light heavyweight journeymen.
Im not comparing Fury to Ali you fucking morons! Like you said, Ali had a granite chin but he was thought to be very vulnerable as he was getting hurt and dropped and awarded gift decisions against very small heavyweights that werent even punchers.
If a heavyweight weighs in at 210lbs then it means he is just a cruiserweight that didn't sweat the 10lbs of water
Even if somebody does get mauled, it's their fault for allowing that to happen..
Here is a list of fighters who held HW belts who where not ripped.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossRipped means hes not carrying much if any fat and is more a genuine heavyweight than Stiverne and Arreola who if they lost their fat and their (10lb of water) would probably weigh less than Cunningham.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlYea the kid really rates Cunningham , wonder if its because he was mauled into submission by fury ?:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB'Ripped'? So what? Ripped? Like Jeff Lacy?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossBefore Ali fought Liston he was dropped hard by 180lb british journeyman Henry Cooper who had a less than 50% KO ratio and 195lb Sonny Banks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Fury has been dropped by an ripped 210lb former world champ fighter and another weighing 232lb both 6,3" not light heavyweight journeymen.
Im not comparing Fury to Ali you fucking morons! Like you said, Ali had a granite chin but he was thought to be very vulnerable as he was getting hurt and dropped and awarded gift decisions against very small heavyweights that werent even punchers.
If a heavyweight weighs in at 210lbs then it means he is just a cruiserweight that didn't sweat the 10lbs of water
Cunningham should have been awarded the decision against Adamek, who comfortably beat Arreola who is soon to be fighting to be the second best heavy in the world. He will be fighting someone who was stopped by a journeyman and held to a draw by another journeyman.
Cunningham is also the only fighter to have stopped Marco Huck and Huck fought Povetkin, a heavyweight, who Huck beat up pretty much and was unlucky not to get the decision against.
Larry Holmes.
Tony Tubbs.
Tim Witherspoon.
Michael Spinks.
Gerry Coetzee.
You don't have to be ripped to be a top HW , you just have to be a good fighter.
You can be ripped at HW like Cunnigham but be garbage and have no power.
Vunningham has no power? Explain Huck;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlHere is a list of fighters who held HW belts who where not ripped.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossRipped means hes not carrying much if any fat and is more a genuine heavyweight than Stiverne and Arreola who if they lost their fat and their (10lb of water) would probably weigh less than Cunningham.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlYea the kid really rates Cunningham , wonder if its because he was mauled into submission by fury ?:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB'Ripped'? So what? Ripped? Like Jeff Lacy?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossBefore Ali fought Liston he was dropped hard by 180lb british journeyman Henry Cooper who had a less than 50% KO ratio and 195lb Sonny Banks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Fury has been dropped by an ripped 210lb former world champ fighter and another weighing 232lb both 6,3" not light heavyweight journeymen.
Im not comparing Fury to Ali you fucking morons! Like you said, Ali had a granite chin but he was thought to be very vulnerable as he was getting hurt and dropped and awarded gift decisions against very small heavyweights that werent even punchers.
If a heavyweight weighs in at 210lbs then it means he is just a cruiserweight that didn't sweat the 10lbs of water
Cunningham should have been awarded the decision against Adamek, who comfortably beat Arreola who is soon to be fighting to be the second best heavy in the world. He will be fighting someone who was stopped by a journeyman and held to a draw by another journeyman.
Cunningham is also the only fighter to have stopped Marco Huck and Huck fought Povetkin, a heavyweight, who Huck beat up pretty much and was unlucky not to get the decision against.
Larry Holmes.
Tony Tubbs.
Tim Witherspoon.
Michael Spinks.
Gerry Coetzee.
You don't have to be ripped to be a top HW , you just have to be a good fighter.
You can be ripped at HW like Cunnigham but be garbage and have no power.
You don't have to be ripped but Cunningham being ripped at 210lb proves hes a heavyweight.
What? So using your forearm to push someone's head back so you can land a punch is fair???? You need to revisit the rules of this game mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaWhy are you discrediting that victory? Fury beat him with a clean punch,fair and square...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlYea the kid really rates Cunningham , wonder if its because he was mauled into submission by fury ?:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB'Ripped'? So what? Ripped? Like Jeff Lacy?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossBefore Ali fought Liston he was dropped hard by 180lb british journeyman Henry Cooper who had a less than 50% KO ratio and 195lb Sonny Banks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Fury has been dropped by an ripped 210lb former world champ fighter and another weighing 232lb both 6,3" not light heavyweight journeymen.
Im not comparing Fury to Ali you fucking morons! Like you said, Ali had a granite chin but he was thought to be very vulnerable as he was getting hurt and dropped and awarded gift decisions against very small heavyweights that werent even punchers.
If a heavyweight weighs in at 210lbs then it means he is just a cruiserweight that didn't sweat the 10lbs of water
Even if somebody does get mauled, it's their fault for allowing that to happen..
And what do you mean discredit? Do you think Cunningham beats wilder, Haye, Klit or any top heavyweight. You can say Adamek but he's been on the decline since his pounding by Vitali. He should have lost to a one handed Eddie Chambers two fights before he beat Cunningham.
What Ross and a few others fail to realise is fighters are different at different stages of their careers. McBride beat Tyson so McBride is better then Tyson. His logic is just wrong. He claims the Chisora Fury beat is better then the Chisora Haye beat because he was undefeated despite coming in 2 stone heavier then other fights. It's like he doesn't watch boxing and just goes of who beat who. Anyone can see Adamek is in decline yet he thinks because Adamek beat Arreola 3 years ago that he's Cunningham would beat him today based on how he did against Adamek a few months ago.
You have some sense, why would you support retarded arguments made by this clown
Ross you are an idiot , he didn't even fight Huck at HW , he hasn't scored a KO at HW and he has 12 KO wins , nobody but you thinks Cunnigham is any kind of puncher at HW.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossVunningham has no power? Explain Huck;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlHere is a list of fighters who held HW belts who where not ripped.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossRipped means hes not carrying much if any fat and is more a genuine heavyweight than Stiverne and Arreola who if they lost their fat and their (10lb of water) would probably weigh less than Cunningham.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlYea the kid really rates Cunningham , wonder if its because he was mauled into submission by fury ?:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB'Ripped'? So what? Ripped? Like Jeff Lacy?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossBefore Ali fought Liston he was dropped hard by 180lb british journeyman Henry Cooper who had a less than 50% KO ratio and 195lb Sonny Banks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Fury has been dropped by an ripped 210lb former world champ fighter and another weighing 232lb both 6,3" not light heavyweight journeymen.
Im not comparing Fury to Ali you fucking morons! Like you said, Ali had a granite chin but he was thought to be very vulnerable as he was getting hurt and dropped and awarded gift decisions against very small heavyweights that werent even punchers.
If a heavyweight weighs in at 210lbs then it means he is just a cruiserweight that didn't sweat the 10lbs of water
Cunningham should have been awarded the decision against Adamek, who comfortably beat Arreola who is soon to be fighting to be the second best heavy in the world. He will be fighting someone who was stopped by a journeyman and held to a draw by another journeyman.
Cunningham is also the only fighter to have stopped Marco Huck and Huck fought Povetkin, a heavyweight, who Huck beat up pretty much and was unlucky not to get the decision against.
Larry Holmes.
Tony Tubbs.
Tim Witherspoon.
Michael Spinks.
Gerry Coetzee.
You don't have to be ripped to be a top HW , you just have to be a good fighter.
You can be ripped at HW like Cunnigham but be garbage and have no power.
You don't have to be ripped but Cunningham being ripped at 210lb proves hes a heavyweight.
Yes!Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeWhat? So using your forearm to push someone's head back so you can land a punch is fair???? You need to revisit the rules of this game mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaWhy are you discrediting that victory? Fury beat him with a clean punch,fair and square...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlYea the kid really rates Cunningham , wonder if its because he was mauled into submission by fury ?:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB'Ripped'? So what? Ripped? Like Jeff Lacy?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossBefore Ali fought Liston he was dropped hard by 180lb british journeyman Henry Cooper who had a less than 50% KO ratio and 195lb Sonny Banks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Fury has been dropped by an ripped 210lb former world champ fighter and another weighing 232lb both 6,3" not light heavyweight journeymen.
Im not comparing Fury to Ali you fucking morons! Like you said, Ali had a granite chin but he was thought to be very vulnerable as he was getting hurt and dropped and awarded gift decisions against very small heavyweights that werent even punchers.
If a heavyweight weighs in at 210lbs then it means he is just a cruiserweight that didn't sweat the 10lbs of water
Even if somebody does get mauled, it's their fault for allowing that to happen..
And what do you mean discredit? Do you think Cunningham beats wilder, Haye, Klit or any top heavyweight. You can say Adamek but he's been on the decline since his pounding by Vitali. He should have lost to a one handed Eddie Chambers two fights before he beat Cunningham.
What Ross and a few others fail to realise is fighters are different at different stages of their careers. McBride beat Tyson so McBride is better then Tyson. His logic is just wrong. He claims the Chisora Fury beat is better then the Chisora Haye beat because he was undefeated despite coming in 2 stone heavier then other fights. It's like he doesn't watch boxing and just goes of who beat who. Anyone can see Adamek is in decline yet he thinks because Adamek beat Arreola 3 years ago that he's Cunningham would beat him today based on how he did against Adamek a few months ago.
You have some sense, why would you support retarded arguments made by this clown
Cunningham beats Haye. Anyone with a bit of speed and who doesnt just throw one shot at a time beats Haye. Why do you think Haye avoided Cunningham at Cruiser. Always says he was "undisputed" cruiser champ but how the fuck could he have been when Cunningham was the IBF champ?:rolleyes:
Cunningham also beats Wilder, Arreola and Stiverne.
I am not an idiot. Im not saying Cunningham is a big puncher, im saying he is a genuine heavy. How can you weigh 210lb and not be carrying any fat and still not be considered not a hevayweight;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlRoss you are an idiot , he didn't even fight Huck at HW , he hasn't scored a KO at HW and he has 12 KO wins , nobody but you thinks Cunnigham is any kind of puncher at HW.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossVunningham has no power? Explain Huck;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlHere is a list of fighters who held HW belts who where not ripped.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossRipped means hes not carrying much if any fat and is more a genuine heavyweight than Stiverne and Arreola who if they lost their fat and their (10lb of water) would probably weigh less than Cunningham.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlYea the kid really rates Cunningham , wonder if its because he was mauled into submission by fury ?:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB'Ripped'? So what? Ripped? Like Jeff Lacy?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossBefore Ali fought Liston he was dropped hard by 180lb british journeyman Henry Cooper who had a less than 50% KO ratio and 195lb Sonny Banks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Fury has been dropped by an ripped 210lb former world champ fighter and another weighing 232lb both 6,3" not light heavyweight journeymen.
Im not comparing Fury to Ali you fucking morons! Like you said, Ali had a granite chin but he was thought to be very vulnerable as he was getting hurt and dropped and awarded gift decisions against very small heavyweights that werent even punchers.
If a heavyweight weighs in at 210lbs then it means he is just a cruiserweight that didn't sweat the 10lbs of water
Cunningham should have been awarded the decision against Adamek, who comfortably beat Arreola who is soon to be fighting to be the second best heavy in the world. He will be fighting someone who was stopped by a journeyman and held to a draw by another journeyman.
Cunningham is also the only fighter to have stopped Marco Huck and Huck fought Povetkin, a heavyweight, who Huck beat up pretty much and was unlucky not to get the decision against.
Larry Holmes.
Tony Tubbs.
Tim Witherspoon.
Michael Spinks.
Gerry Coetzee.
You don't have to be ripped to be a top HW , you just have to be a good fighter.
You can be ripped at HW like Cunnigham but be garbage and have no power.
You don't have to be ripped but Cunningham being ripped at 210lb proves hes a heavyweight.
As the age old saying goes, anyone 200lb and up can hurt you.
Fighters get caught with big punches from other fighters that aren't really big punchers and get dropped. Remember, cooper dropped Ali;D and Mock dropped Haye;)
Laughing my ass off. You have to be the biggest clown on the planet.
Wilder hasnt even faced anyone relevant we can make any kinds of judgements on him. People alling for him to fight for the title as if that would clear up the scene is a joke. His last few fights have been against nobodies. He is going to be another Price and Cunningham would beat him. Wilder would have a job even landing a shot on him.
Arreola and Stivern both have losses, both have been stopped. Arreola was beaten by Adamek who Cunningham at least looked a million times better against and wowee! While Cunningham was weighing as a heavyweight also!
Now.. Like someone else has already pointed out. Cunningham was draining himself by losing 10lb of water to get to cruiser. He would have deffinitly been draining himself then and been weaker.