Re: Has Wlad whipped more undefeated fighters than anyone?
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erics44
Peter, provetkin he should have been dq'd
amongst others
His record is money
Hahaha pathetic
Re: Has Wlad whipped more undefeated fighters than anyone?
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
erics44
Peter, provetkin he should have been dq'd
amongst others
His record is money
Hahaha pathetic
Ha first time you haven't called me ginger when you've had no other comeback :)
Re: Has Wlad whipped more undefeated fighters than anyone?
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
erics44
Peter, provetkin he should have been dq'd
amongst others
His record is money
Hahaha pathetic
Ha first time you haven't called me ginger when you've had no other comeback :)
What's there to come back to? You're saying 100% of the refs Wladimir Klitschko has had in the ring with him are either on the take OR are too stupid to do a proper job and that is a claim that is so frivolous that it is a testament to how absolutely mental you must be to believe such bullshit....ergo no "comeback"
Re: Has Wlad whipped more undefeated fighters than anyone?
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
erics44
Peter, provetkin he should have been dq'd
amongst others
His record is money
Hahaha pathetic
Ha first time you haven't called me ginger when you've had no other comeback :)
What's there to come back to? You're saying 100% of the refs Wladimir Klitschko has had in the ring with him are either on the take OR are too stupid to do a proper job and that is a claim that is so frivolous that it is a testament to how absolutely mental you must be to believe such bullshit....ergo no "comeback"
What I'm saying is it's absolutely clear as day he should have been dq'd in those two fights, provetkin in particular, there can be no argument
Why wasn't he? it's pretty obvious to me
Re: Has Wlad whipped more undefeated fighters than anyone?
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SlimTrae
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slimtrae
dominant.
dominant
My bad...
EXTREMELY DOMINANT.
Re: Has Wlad whipped more undefeated fighters than anyone?
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El Kabong
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erics44
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
erics44
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Originally Posted by
El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
erics44
Peter, provetkin he should have been dq'd
amongst others
His record is money
Hahaha pathetic
Ha first time you haven't called me ginger when you've had no other comeback :)
What's there to come back to? You're saying 100% of the refs Wladimir Klitschko has had in the ring with him are either on the take OR are too stupid to do a proper job and that is a claim that is so frivolous that it is a testament to how absolutely mental you must be to believe such bullshit....ergo no "comeback"
What I'm saying is it's absolutely clear as day he should have been dq'd in those two fights, provetkin in particular, there can be no argument
Why wasn't he? it's pretty obvious to me
And you have been a licensed professional boxing referee for how long now?
i just know the rules
and i reckon anyone who does know the rules, being honest with themselves they would at least be a bit suspicious about those fights
why was a fighter allowed the cheat to such an extreme during a fight?
its not just those two fights either, i just cant be bothered to check to see the extremes he went to in other fights
Re: Has Wlad whipped more undefeated fighters than anyone?
Ok eric tell me this then how many high level title fights hell i go with hw titles has there been a dq for holding if you can answer that then you have some ground to stand on. I have never seen a hw be dqed for holding Ali and Holmes would be fucked if that happened as well as most champs to fight really.
Re: Has Wlad whipped more undefeated fighters than anyone?
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Mr140
Ok eric tell me this then how many high level title fights hell i go with hw titles has there been a dq for holding if you can answer that then you have some ground to stand on. I have never seen a hw be dqed for holding Ali and Holmes would be fucked if that happened as well as most champs to fight really.
if you total the amount of times Ali held in all of his championship fights it wouldnt be as many times as wlad held in the first round against provetkin
other fighters bend the rules, hold, use elbows, heads, push, pull down
wlad is the extreme of the extremes, theres never been a fighter, never mind a champion anything like it before, there has been no precedent, his style can be compared to no one elses
the fight against provetkin was shocking, the second sam peter fight was at a similar level
Re: Has Wlad whipped more undefeated fighters than anyone?
Holmes has him tied.
Ray Mercer (18-0)
Carl Williams (16-0)
David Bey (14-0)
Marvis Frazier (10-0)
Scott Frank (20-0)
Tim Witherspoon (15-0)
Gerry Cooney (25-0)
Renaldo Snipes (22-0)
Leroy Jones (24-0)
Ossie Ocasio (13-0)
Kevin Isaac (2-0)
Wlad's opposition: 246-0 combined
Holmes' opposition: 179-0 combined
So I guess Wlad wins.
Re: Has Wlad whipped more undefeated fighters than anyone?
Holmes had an era where there were a lot of young guys who jumped at the chance of fighting The Champ and it was a great thing because nobody could complain about anything other than the fighters being a bit green but still the fights got made, there were rematches if deserved, and Holmes dominated.
Wlad has had a hard time finding opponents, it took years for the Haye fight to happen, years for the Povetkin fight to happen, years for unification of the WBO, IBF, and WBA belts. Some heavyweights have suffered losses in that time when they were close to getting a title shot, like Arreola and Solis for example.
Re: Has Wlad whipped more undefeated fighters than anyone?
Eric i think you are pretty biased against Wlad since he beat Haye i know you said you mad mony off a bet but since that fight all you done bitch about holding. I mean you never said a word about holding till after that fight about Wlad use to say he was a great heavy that could beat the 60's as well dude.
Re: Has Wlad whipped more undefeated fighters than anyone?
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Mr140
Eric i think you are pretty biased against Wlad since he beat Haye i know you said you mad mony off a bet but since that fight all you done bitch about holding. I mean you never said a word about holding till after that fight about Wlad use to say he was a great heavy that could beat the 60's as well dude.
Fliipin nora, good memory about the bet, 25 euros on me mates stag do, I never really watched before tho, I started watching since and I thought fuk me this isn't boxing, how's he getting away with it, then it twigged
It will twig with you one day :)
Re: Has Wlad whipped more undefeated fighters than anyone?
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erics44
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Mr140
Eric i think you are pretty biased against Wlad since he beat Haye i know you said you mad mony off a bet but since that fight all you done bitch about holding. I mean you never said a word about holding till after that fight about Wlad use to say he was a great heavy that could beat the 60's as well dude.
Fliipin nora, good memory about the bet, 25 euros on me mates stag do, I never really watched before tho, I started watching since and I thought fuk me this isn't boxing, how's he getting away with it, then it twigged
It will twig with you one day :)
Or was it 35, I can't remember