Floyd Mayweather 48-0

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

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Originally Posted by imp

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Slept for 2 hours to watch what I always said. If you counter Manny he slows down, that's why they avoided counter punchers as much as possible. That fight was wide. I can only imagine how bad it would have been if Floyd had his legs. You could easily argue Manny only won the 4th. I'm surprised he wasn't willing to take more risks once it was so clear he was losing by so much.

Who is Floyd afraid of now?

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Manny won more than one round in my opinion and tried his best but it's not easy getting through that defence.

As much as there's a lot of hate torwards floyd I think even the most diehard pac fan can accept the way floyd controls and wins the fight.

Manny can still continue and perhaps drop to 140 and fight Garcia.

The annoying thing about floyd in this fight is that he could have put a few more combinations together or had a great last round but he only does enough just to win...perhaps his legs are at that limit now.

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Just to clarify I don't think Pac won only one round. I think he won 3. Just saying you could make the argument. And it wouldn't be outlandish. I thought Pac would throw caution to the wind more but he really couldn't deal with the slightest movements. He knew he was being set up constantly and didn't know what to do other than stop.

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I am not blaming Freddie roach but I have said in the past a trainer change would have been beneficial for manny..would have been interesting to see him fight under Virgil hunter.

Manny is too old to change his ways even with Virgil training him. Roach got the best out of him.

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Originally Posted by Master

Manny is too old to change his ways even with Virgil training him. Roach got the best out of him.

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I generally think Roach is overrated because he doesn't teach defense and that is half of the sport. But on this ^ I agree. Manny's offense is his defense. He was never going to change how he fights so you had to change his abilities to do what he does and Roach did that well.

Manny was a tremendous athlete with a big left hand and Roach made him one of the 50 best fighters of all time.

Roach deserves his credit on this.

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Manny is too old to change his ways even with Virgil training him. Roach got the best out of him.

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I generally think Roach is overrated because he doesn't teach defense and that is half of the sport. But on this ^ I agree. Manny's offense is his defense. He was never going to change how he fights so you had to change his abilities to do what he does and Roach did that well.

Manny was a tremendous athlete with a big left hand and Roach made him one of the 50 best fighters of all time.

Roach deserves his credit on this.

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Yes, Roach and Manny are perfect together but Roach and Khan was entertaining but wrong.

Manny had an amazing career under Freddie Roach, becoming an undeniable ATG and pound for pound force in boxing. His speed and offence were his defence, it just didn't work on JMM or Floyd.