Re: Mayweather might be the best we've ever seen
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Beanflicker
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TitoFan
Oh yeah.... back in the mid-90's Whitaker claimed everybody was ducking him.
Trinidad..... DLH..... Chavez for a rematch.
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Never mind none of these fighters were ever known as duckers.
Yeah, well how come none of those motherfuckers bothered to fight Whitaker back in the early 90s?
It's not speculation, it's fact: Don King and Tito were offered 4.5 MILLION to fight Whitaker. He turned it down to create super fights with names like Larry Barnes, Roger Turner and Freddie Pendleton. All the while ranked #2 to Sweetpea's #1 by Ring Magazine.
We all know why Chavez never fought Pea again: he got embarrassed the first time and got a mercy draw to save his perfect record.
I give DLH a bit of credit for finally stepping up, but he only did so after seeing him struggle heavily with Wilfredo Rivera and Hurtado, knowing the Sweet Pea was on his last leg - and even still he nearly lost to him. Trinidad fought him after a 2 year layoff when he was washed up and fucked up with cocaine addiction.
LOL... don't get me started on DLH and Trinidad's common opponents. Whitaker may have been the ONLY opponent DLH fought before Trinidad did. Other than that... they were all leftovers. Vargas, Carr, Campas, Mayorga.... etc, etc. As to why they never met, again.... none of the fighters I mentioned, including DLH, were known as duckers. The term is overused, and it's used too conveniently when the stars didn't align themselves correctly for Fighter X to have fought Fighter Y. If we're gonna come to that, let's just make a list of all the fighters Floyd never fought and say he ducked THEM. Not fair, is it. And let's face it.... Whitaker fought Rivera twice and couldn't put him away. You think that alone struck fear into the likes of DLH or Trinidad? Please...
Re: Mayweather might be the best we've ever seen
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TitoFan
LOL... don't get me started on DLH and Trinidad's common opponents. Whitaker may have been the ONLY opponent DLH fought before Trinidad did. Other than that... they were all leftovers. Vargas, Carr, Campas, Mayorga.... etc, etc. As to why they never met, again.... none of the fighters I mentioned, including DLH, were known as duckers. The term is overused, and it's used too conveniently when the stars didn't align themselves correctly for Fighter X to have fought Fighter Y. If we're gonna come to that, let's just make a list of all the fighters Floyd never fought and say he ducked THEM. Not fair, is it. And let's face it.... Whitaker fought Rivera twice and couldn't put him away. You think that alone struck fear into the likes of DLH or Trinidad? Please...
Well all you're saying is that Trinidad is not known as a ducker, but you're not explaining why he chose to turn down 4.5 million to fight Whitaker and took smaller fights vs Freddie Pendleton, ect, instead.
Maybe there is a legit reason why Trinidad didn't take the fight, but when a guy turns down 4.5 million and the opponent is all wrong for him, it makes you wonder. Tito clearly won the eventual fight, but he couldn't put away a 35 year old coke head Whitaker coming off a 2 year exile.
I'm not even saying Tito was scared or it was his idea. It's more likely that Don King kept him away from Whitaker because he feared that his rising star would lose or AT LEAST be made to look bad in winning.
Re: Mayweather might be the best we've ever seen
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greynotsoold
May weather does a lot of things that good fighters would make him pay for. Watch the fight again. Try and count the times somebody is off balance. Try and count the times somebody gets caught with their weight on one foot (watch Floyd jab).
Floyd benefits from fighting guys that are real good against guys that don't fight back. PAC had no solution for a guy that contested control of range; he looked like an amateur. Also PAC doesn't throw combinations, which are purposeful sequences of punches. He throws 'flurries'
Define make him pay for? Do you mean land the odd punch here or there or do you mean beat him? Surely of the forty eight that have come and gone there must have been at least a few that were 'good'?
Re: Mayweather might be the best we've ever seen
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Beanflicker
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Master
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Beanflicker
Yeah, and he whipped Toney so bad it wasn't even fair.
People still try to take those wins from him though. They say Bhop was too green and Toney wasn't in shape :D
No respect for RJJ
He still has them on his cv and that is a great accomplishment. Floyd has?
Doesn't Pacquaio do anything for you? :-\
Not this 2015 version no.
