Re: Not convinced GGG beats Froch or Ward
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Memphis
I think there is an element of what Andre alluded to at play with GGG. He's is literally walking through people right now, doesn't give a flying fuck what they are coming back with if anything, more than happy to take a few clumps to get his in.
Put him in against a Ward, Froch, Cotto, Alvarez or Floyd and I think you see a more measured fighter. Every bit as brutal but with an eye on defence as well.
Has anyone got a link to the fight so I can re-watch it. Stream was a bit shite.
Gennady Golovkin vs Monroe Jr - full fight Video 2015 Wbc
Re: Not convinced GGG beats Froch or Ward
Froch not fighting since Groves is adding to his ring rust and GGG being active would help him if they fought but I would favour Froch. Ward should win too if he can get active again. This is why GGG does not take those fights. The big money is with the little men Cotto, Saul and Floyd.
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Kirkland Laing
Cotto and Alvarez are going to do their level best to avoid Golovkin. Ward isn't a big money fight in the States for Golovkin. If Golovkin wants a big payday anytime soon then he has to come to England and do Sky PPV.
As predicted. The f%^&**ing WBC strikes again.
WBC President to allow Canelo-Cotto fight if they sign contract to defend against Golovkin
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GGG is not a small middleweight. That talk needs to stop. He is a true bona fide middleweight. He isn't a natural super middleweight either for that matter though.
Froch or Ward beat GGG at 168. It might be closer if they met at a catch weight, but I still favor Froch and Ward.
In my opinion, THE fight for GGG is Froch. Froch is a future HOF caliber fighter and he has a following to win over. It's an opportunity for GGG to test the waters at 168 against the second best fighter in the division. If he wins in fun fashion, he'll have grown his brand in the UK. It's a more winnable fight than Ward and so the risk is worth it. If he loses or has difficulty, he chalks it up to size and moves back down. There's no shame in losing to Froch either at a weight class above his best.
I don't understand why he hasn't called Froch out more.
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There's confidence, then there's stupidity....super middle is not the move for GGG at this point. Canelo and Cotto first.
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@Ron Swanson, yes Floyd is a smallish Welter but if you want a laugh, read back on this forum a decade ago and you will see that good proportion of posters here though that Ricky Hatton was naturally bigger than Floyd - just because he was bigger than him out of the ring (harharhar).
Also, Pacquiao has an abnormal bone structure that allows him to carry more muscle, more effectively than most other guys his size.
Also Also. When Golovkin fought Rubio, he was 165 one whole month before he was due to fight.
Those are the facts.
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that GGG came in to the ring smaller than Murray. Which means he's smaller than Murray. Which means he would be a small super middleweight. A slowish smallish super middleweight.
Nothing like Pacquiao or Mayweather at all Ron, as their success at higher weights was part built on speed and athleticism.
I love watching GGG fight but I just think that 160 is his home. Like I said though. It's just a hunch.
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Certainly can't say GGG has fought the best and I look forward to seeing him do so but regardless he is a pleasure to watch in the ring. I bring big drama show, classic. Got give him credit for picking up English, he's come a long way, it looks like he's picking up some Spanish as well. I speak one language other than English and it is no easy task to learn a new language. It seems GGG is a bright, happy guy. I wish him great success.
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Jimanuel Boogustus
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Ron Swanson, yes Floyd is a smallish Welter but if you want a laugh, read back on this forum a decade ago and you will see that good proportion of posters here though that Ricky Hatton was naturally bigger than Floyd - just because he was bigger than him out of the ring (harharhar).
Also, Pacquiao has an abnormal bone structure that allows him to carry more muscle, more effectively than most other guys his size.
Also Also. When Golovkin fought Rubio, he was 165 one whole month before he was due to fight.
Those are the facts.
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that GGG came in to the ring smaller than Murray. Which means he's smaller than Murray. Which means he would be a small super middleweight. A slowish smallish super middleweight.
Nothing like Pacquiao or Mayweather at all Ron, as their success at higher weights was part built on speed and athleticism.
I love watching GGG fight but I just think that 160 is his home. Like I said though. It's just a hunch.
Good post.
Unfortunately, some people just don't carry up weight well and that's alright. You shouldn't be judged too harshly on it.
Re: Not convinced GGG beats Froch or Ward
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Rantcatrat
GGG is not a small middleweight. That talk needs to stop. He is a true bona fide middleweight. He isn't a natural super middleweight either for that matter though.
Froch or Ward beat GGG at 168. It might be closer if they met at a catch weight, but I still favor Froch and Ward.
In my opinion, THE fight for GGG is Froch. Froch is a future HOF caliber fighter and he has a following to win over. It's an opportunity for GGG to test the waters at 168 against the second best fighter in the division. If he wins in fun fashion, he'll have grown his brand in the UK. It's a more winnable fight than Ward and so the risk is worth it. If he loses or has difficulty, he chalks it up to size and moves back down. There's no shame in losing to Froch either at a weight class above his best.
I don't understand why he hasn't called Froch out more.
who has he called out?
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erics44
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Originally Posted by
Rantcatrat
GGG is not a small middleweight. That talk needs to stop. He is a true bona fide middleweight. He isn't a natural super middleweight either for that matter though.
Froch or Ward beat GGG at 168. It might be closer if they met at a catch weight, but I still favor Froch and Ward.
In my opinion, THE fight for GGG is Froch. Froch is a future HOF caliber fighter and he has a following to win over. It's an opportunity for GGG to test the waters at 168 against the second best fighter in the division. If he wins in fun fashion, he'll have grown his brand in the UK. It's a more winnable fight than Ward and so the risk is worth it. If he loses or has difficulty, he chalks it up to size and moves back down. There's no shame in losing to Froch either at a weight class above his best.
I don't understand why he hasn't called Froch out more.
who has he called out?
He's called out Cotto, Canelo, Mayweather, and previously Junior.
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Re: Not convinced GGG beats Froch or Ward
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Tam Seddon
Froch may show some interest in GGG but Golovkin will not show in any interest in moving up and facing Froch.
If the fight happens it would be epic!
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Master
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Tam Seddon
Froch may show some interest in GGG but Golovkin will not show in any interest in moving up and facing Froch.
If the fight happens it would be epic!
Apparently Golovkins promoter approached Hearn. I'd be surprised because he did t mention carl on Saturday. It seemed like he wanted the smaller guys first
If I was triple Gs advisor I wouldn't recommend he goes for carl next. It's a big step up in weight and class. He needs to do 1 at a time not both in the same night.
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GAME
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Master
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Originally Posted by
Tam Seddon
Froch may show some interest in GGG but Golovkin will not show in any interest in moving up and facing Froch.
If the fight happens it would be epic!
Apparently Golovkins promoter approached Hearn. I'd be surprised because he did t mention carl on Saturday. It seemed like he wanted the smaller guys first
If I was triple Gs advisor I wouldn't recommend he goes for carl next. It's a big step up in weight and class. He needs to do 1 at a time not both in the same night.
If it happens it would be Las Vegas, PPV and the winner would be in the big leagues!
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It's not good Froch has been so inactive though. GGG keeps very busy